I am, and it's a pretty obvious one.
In post 1467, Tammy wrote:I find it really really suspicious that after spending all of yesterday calling me town, which I thought was off mind you!, you're using someone who can't read me all that well to turn your read on me around.
Care to point out where I've discussed my read in conjunction with Mollie's? I don't believe I've said anything of the sort and have just been waiting to see what came of it.
In post 1467, Tammy wrote:
Not to mention the shit as fuck reason you gave for why you're trusting someone who doesn't actually have that much experience with me over someone who does. All of mollies shit was shit too. It's kinda funny because in all that oh well I trust mollie because she's hydrad with you, which she on,y has in a scum hydra once, so she knows you better, you guys keep just mentioning ffery - and forgetting the fact that we may not have hydrad but there's more recent experience there - and I don't know where you're getting the mollie knows me better, I don't feel like she does. Also in that oh I'm going to trust mollie cuz hydra and faulty "knows me better" how come both of you are ignoring nachos read, who actually does know me better, has played more with me, has hydrad several times with me including one right now?
I trust Mollie's opinion on you a lot. In fact, when I considered switching, one of the reasons was that Mollie would be able to work well with you if you were town. And you keep forgetting that I have talked with you outside of Mafiascum via Skype, so I know how highly you think of Mollie, and I know how close you two are. As such, I trust her ability to read you. Do you know how often I recall you talking about Ffery and her ability to read you, like ever? None. It's either Mollie or Nacho, and I have direct access to one of those two. I'll also note that I did not ask Mollie to look at you when she read the game, but that she came back with an immediate read on you anyway. And I didn't go "Well, okay then." followed by a vote on you or a major push on you in game, I asked her to instead explain her read to me, which I relayed back as soon as I got it. And you were not initially wrong that my outing Mollie's read was a reaction test, because I was interested in how you would approach it. You know what you did? It sure wasn't trying to understand how Mollie could have gotten that read. Instead, you tried to discredit her ability to read you and promoted Ffery, the conf. town, instead. I can actually see why she finds all that shady as heck, but there is also some other stuff that she told me that I did not relay, because I think it can point in your favor, and you can be sure I'm going to talk to her about that. Overall, I'm still not interested in lynching you, but I will say that my read of you has taken a hit given your most recent reaction.
In post 1467, Tammy wrote:
My main problem with this whole thing is not me ruling on someone's town read, but that you people are avoiding them like the plague. Not one person who suspects me, and who should know better, has engaged them on that read, and I find that hella suspicious.
I've actually tried to talk to Ffery several times about some of her reads. That line of discussion has had trouble taking off. And you're right that I didn't talk to them about you, because until yesterday, there was no need.
In post 1474, fferyllt wrote:
So no bombshells from Mollie.
She's missing a lot of the basis for my townread, and what she picked up was something I think is town for different reasons. it's a different (and much more extensive) slice of experiential meta that's informing my read.
I'm not going to try to discern Mollie's alignment filtered through your posts. From what I know of her games with Tammy the meta basis is thin but she hasn't twisted the data out of shape or anything.
Mollie read the first 10 pages to try to figure out why you were reading Tammy. She said she could figure it out after 1. Other than that, I only think she's read some of the more recent stuff. She's definitely not that versed into what's going on in this game (Heck, she didn't even understand the minor/major day mechanic and thought it was day 2 or something.). I can talk to her when she gets back, but I doubt she's ever going to read the entire thing.
In post 1477, ChannelDelibird wrote: In post 1458, Bulbazak wrote:@CDB: Why don't you like looking at how people approach the game? I think that's the best way to understand their mindset and thought process, which helps in figuring out whether they're town or scum.
You're missing my point.
Everything
comes down to how someone "approaches the game". Everything that everyone in this thread is talking about comes down to that. You might as well have turned to whoever it was you were addressing and saying "oh, hey, I get it. It's because of how Cheetory is playing, right?". It's an empty statement.
No it's not, but I doubt you understand what I'm getting at.
In post 1507, Marquis wrote:hi tth
i do understand anti's been busy lately
yes, even as town
but you can't use that to make an argument in the other direction
nor does it make you being scum any less true!
i'm not changing my vote no matter how much you pretend your softclaiming is subtle and ~totallyrealtownwithasecret~
<3 sorry and ttyl! <3
So I'm making a scum read on Marquis official after reading this post.
@Vezok: I think I'm starting to get why you're being town read, but that doesn't over rule the fact that I think your reads are crap this game.
@Mastin: Talk to me about Gamma.
