New York 181 -- Game Over

[pisskop]

Titus should tell us about ARS not doing VCA. and if its siblings's spat or wagontimr

[ika]

Unless Shiro hard claims cop and there's no counterclaim, I'm OK lynching him.

sounds like shiro is claiming doc.

He needs to hard claim and then explain each protection and his mindset at the time.

He never said he was the doc.

Kk.

I.am indeed the doc and I protected ika all night

First night I didn'. Truly believe his cop claim but under the assumption that it might draw a kill I protected him

Other night I believed his claim and protected him just to be sure. Got to keep the cop safe.

I am voting ap cause his Shiro is not a doc post, was awfully implying that he knows who it is. Heck if I wasn'tit I would have thought he was implying it is him.

Now I was scumreading house and didn't like ap initial play. I did though warm to this days play but that post made me think.

ABR is still scum btw just read the latest posts like seriously I will switch from AP to lynch him. It might be cause I am not all that experienced but he screams scum to me.

abr is confirmed not reading thread can we lynch him now?

[Titus]

@Egg, I am not answering who I think is the cop.

I have trouble believing the mafia would hard campaign there as AP did. Possible, yes. Likely, not as much.

I am also questioning my AP read because uncouth mafia.

@Pisskop, I am trying to resolve that myself. ARS' s reads are awfully static and she has failed to deliver her version of vca.

@ika, would hammer abr but its not my fav lynch.

[AngryPidgeon]

AP, I get that Tex's logic about why she wants to mafia hunt is wrong, but why is it scummy?

I didn't like the appeal to fear behind "we might have to lynch too many important townies".


Its just a combination of a few things, but I have a hard time seeing that perspective. I also really dislike throwing out that sk hunting would result in strong players getting lynched. Its just kind of a non-opinion but it looks really pro-town superficially. If that makes any sense.

[dragonspawn]

I can live with an Abr lynch if it helps us.heck I can live with me being lynched.

VOTE: abr

[Shiro]

Why not ika for the same reason?

what do you mean?

Ika is claiming cop.

Titus wanted Ika to investigate her which as sk is really benefitical. I explained a while back why I think it is anti town.

I think we talked about it a bit back back.

[Egg]

@Egg, I am not answering who I think is the cop

Good. I won't ask.

Dragonspawn already claimed VT. I wanted a yes or no. Did you initially think he was the cop before he claimed VT?

[4nxi3ty]

Albert B. Rampage - 4 - Shiro, pisskop, AngryPidgeon, dragonspawn

dragonspawn - 3 - Flubbernugget, Titus, texcat

Shiro - 2 - dramonic, Albert B. Rampage

dramonic - 1 - Egg

Not Voting: ika, A Royal Saint, DeltaWave, Aneninen

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2015-04-23 22:05:49)

V/LA: Shiro, through Wednesday, April 15

[dragonspawn]

Guys I've had some rl issues come up so if I'm not around as much I apologize before hand. I'm going to try to continue on as before but I can't make any guarantees.

[Titus]

@Egg, I am not answering who I think is the cop

Good. I won't ask.

Dragonspawn already claimed VT. I wanted a yes or no. Did you initially think he was the cop before he claimed VT?

I have been trying to obscure all PR claims, so I will not answer this.

[ika]

@Egg, I am not answering who I think is the cop

Good. I won't ask.

Dragonspawn already claimed VT. I wanted a yes or no. Did you initially think he was the cop before he claimed VT?

I have been trying to obscure all PR claims, so I will not answer this.

you know that only make the game more complicated and stupid right? at this point you should not be obsucring claims (esp when you are wrong about it)

now answer the god foraken question titus your "im going to be obtuse" is more anti-town then town now

[Egg]

Yeah not answering is pointless. Dragonspawn already claimed VT so it's not like you'd be outting him. It just helps me if I know whether or not you were thinking along the same lines as me.

[Titus]

Ika, bullshit. Go drink some coffee.

Egg, I am not on the same lines as you.

[Egg]

Ok

[DeltaWave]

Ok answer mE this. Who here would support any of the following wagons? Abr ars dramonic ap

Lets just see who is up for what and go with the most popular wagon. No team scum are left and there are many townies still alive so scum have little influence in a pure democracy.

[Flubbernugget]

[

Another dram wagon is popping up and you've posted without really mentioning it.

dragonspawn - 5 - Flubbernugget, AngryPidgeon, Titus, texcat, Shiro
Shiro - 2 - Albert B. Rampage, dramonic

dramonic - 2 - Egg, dragonspawn

Not Voting: ika, A Royal Saint, DeltaWave, pisskop, Aneninen
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.

You've got a point, Flubber.

My point is that someone with your pov genuinely interested in scumhunting would want some more info on dramonic reads

[ika]

Ika, bullshit. Go drink some coffee.

Egg, I am not on the same lines as you.

can you back up your "bullshit?" or are you going to admit im right?

[Titus]

Bullshit doesn't need backing ika. Stop confbiasing. You are town. I am town. Hiding the PRs is the most protown thing to do.

@Delta, I like a pure democracy system. You will need to devise one.

[Egg]

Ok, more catching up. I hope to finish but won't promise. Might have to feed my son soon...

Dragonspawn looked too careful around the Shiro wagon. Like fake careful. Not sure I care for AP's confidence that Shiro wasn't going to claim doc either.

Flubber, why is Dragonspawn's post a rolefish? Typically, claims happen around that time. And his warning people not to vote kind of makes me think he was saying he didn't want a claim yet. But he was asking more than telling, so it's hard to tell. Which is probably exactly what he was going for.

ABR's Shiro push after the claim rubs me the wrong way. I don't know if it outweighs his shift to defending King on Day 1 though. I still kind of think he's probably town for that.

What gives is I have alot of games. Ae are doing well in this one. My flip as town should help narrow down the two hence I wont mind id you guys flip me. If it helps us win I don't mind.

^this actually reads more like someone who wants to be dead in a game and focus on others than someone trying to hold on and survive to win a game. I may actually be back to dragonspawn being a town read. Royal kind of does this at the bottom of Page 146 too... And Anen is looking townier. What is going on with the world I once knew?

The arguement over whether Dramonic was Wake's buddy seems to ignore any possibility he is SK. Can someone tell me why? Delta, if you're wrong do you think Dramonic is more likely to be SK or town? Titus, do you think Dramonic is more likely to be SK or town? And because I just asked two lawyers that, don't give me the statistics and argue that there or more town players than SK so town is the most likely. I want answers based on his behavior and TSO's. If you think the slot is more likely to be town, I want to know why because I don't see it.

Dammit. I'm on Page 149. Gotta get a bottle ready

[ika]

Bullshit doesn't need backing ika. Stop confbiasing. You are town. I am town. Hiding the PRs is the most protown thing to do.

@Delta, I like a pure democracy system. You will need to devise one.

at this point in time titus, no its not. rememebr when you thought the other person was the cop who had guilt and you were wrong? this is what im talking about

should i remind you of jabberwoky?

saying something pro-town w/o justifying it (esp at this point of the game where we have major advantage) is stupid for you

[AngryPidgeon]

Ok answer mE this. Who here would support any of the following wagons? Abr ars dramonic ap

Lets just see who is up for what and go with the most popular wagon. No team scum are left and there are many townies still alive so scum have little influence in a pure democracy.

Yes no yes yes

[Titus]

@ika, The "justification" is common sense, by throwing mud on claims, but not alignment, scum cannot shoot the PRs. I am not doing scums job for them by letting PRs be confirmed.

[ika]

@ika, The "justification" is common sense, by throwing mud on claims, but not alignment, scum cannot shoot the PRs. I am not doing scums job for them by letting PRs be confirmed.

but by the same accord you are also hindering towns abilty to follow and lead by going with what /you/ think and not what facts state no?

[Titus]

Not at all because if you are universally thought of as town, you still lead, regardless of if you are actually the cop or not.

[ika]

Not at all because if you are universally thought of as town, you still lead, regardless of if you are actually the cop or not.

im not refering in context of me titus im talking about general practice cus again at this point in time you trying to obcure ppl is more anti-town then you make it out to be

if anything if you think im town and are nto cop you should believe and and push it foward so i do die