Mini 452 NBA All-Stars Mafia-Game Over!

[Xdaamno]

Posting this in all my games. I'm having a surprise vacation from this Monday (the 23rd), for about one week, and if I have any internet access at all I'll be lucky. I don't particularly want to be replaced in all my games, so mods; please talk to me before you do anything drastic, since I'm still here for 3/4 more days.

>.<

[inHimshallibe]

Honestly, this game is like 3/4 dead. I've made my arguments, but it's futile to try and lynch someone when half of the Town isn't playing.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Yeah this game is beyond dead.

[Xdaamno]

Horray.

EBWOP (In all games >.>): Just found out I'll still have internet access, after making a few phone calls, so I'll be fine.

[YogurtBandit]

Well Im going to re-read. Maybwe I'll find something.

[Sonicpulsar]

Any chance we can get some prodding?

[Thok]

Official Vote Count

Xdaamno (2): (IH, Sonicpulsar)
xyzzy (1): (inHimshallibe)
mlaker (1): (The Central Scrutinizer)
inHimshallibe (0):
Fletcher (0):
The Central Scrutinizer (0):
Sonicpulsar (0):
YogurtBandit (0):
IH (0):

Not Voting (5): (Fletcher, Xdaamno, xyzzy, YogurtBandit, mlaker)

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Prodding xyzzy, mlaker, Fletcher, IH. Fletcher and IH have 72 hours to post or be replaced.

[IH]

posting sorry, sorry, will catch up X_X

[The Central Scrutinizer]

zomg los ojos

[IH]

Strawmanning. Review the entire paragraph, not the last and shortest sentence.

no, that's like saying "You're argument is strawmanning because it doesn't take in the good things I've said!" Same thing as I shot down before. I don't believe I'm mischaracterizing your argument, I believe I pointed out a flaw in it as I believe that was your main point, unless it was the lame excuse that you don't preview.

(Note:I don't preview either)

For the first time on this site, I'm angry at someone for being such an idiot. Really. You're saying you think I'm town, but also I'm not doing much good because I'm grabbing so much attention. Has it even fucking occured to you I thought not holding back views would work in the long term, and that this is how I always play? This is so patronizing and childish it's almost a scum tell for manipulation. If you don't have anything nice to say, shut up.

Quit being stupid. You're over reacting big time. He said he thinks you're town but you're playing poorly cause you look scummy.

I don't agree with him myself. I just think you're scum.

Hmm. I doubrt Flether's scum, and I know I'm pro-town, yet I doubt scum would point this out intentionally. My take is, from hindsight, though something probably wouldn't happen, it dosen't change whether it can or not. If that makes sense, which it probably dosen't.

Didn't you attack fletcher like all day yesterday?

FoS:Sonicpulsar

for some backtracking and opportunistically moving his vote because "I'm not having anymore fun arguing with you anymore"

Gah, we don't have any scum dead, and lurking is killing us. (Thank you Captain Obvious.)

unvote

I go back and forth on Xdaamno every time I read this thread. I think I've made up my mind that scum would just not be as active in his position.

vote: xyzzy - don't like his behavior toward schismatized.

Err, what? You're kidding right? You think he's town because he's active?

[xyzzy]

Argh. Will catch up as soon as possible.

[Sonicpulsar]

Meh, I'm still not sure if Xdaamno is crappy town or scum. I came to the conclusion of my vote based on the fact that I got tired of arguing with him. In other words, if I was straddling the 50/50 mark on him being scummy or not, the fact that he's annoying, over reactive and takes things personally makes me wanna get him out of the game, thus swaying my 50/50 position.

My vote stands til I see someone supply a good reason not to lynch Xdaamno.

[inHimshallibe]

Err, what? You're kidding right? You think he's town because he's active?

That's the straw that broke the back of my attacks. I had been feeling worse about my suspicions, and his continual push brought me over.

[Xdaamno]

Sonic, your arrogance winds me up. Prehaps you'll learn when you play a bit more mafia that I can't be 100% attentive absolutely all the time, everyone makes mistakes and that you're so obviously boosting your ego it's ridiculous.

[IH]

That's the straw that broke the back of my attacks. I had been feeling worse about my suspicions, and his continual push brought me over.

So... why else do you believe him to be town?

If you'd give me a little bit I'll summarize my case against Xdaamno and ask you about that as well to contrast them.

[Thok]

I'm going hunting for replacements for Fletcher and mlaker. If they post before I find replacements, more power to them/

[inHimshallibe]

So... why else do you believe him to be town?

If you'd give me a little bit I'll summarize my case against Xdaamno and ask you about that as well to contrast them.

I think the most decisive point has been others' behavior toward Xdaamno. He had received a

lot

of flak from you, myself, and more recently sonicpulsar, and mlaker (if I remember correctly) is the only one to stick up for him. I don't think lurking scum (mlaker in theory) would do this, and after that there are no supporters, which I think is a Town sign.

I've found scum split themselves on both sides of a wagon on a buddy of theirs, and assuming we have three left (yes, I've taken the liberty to gauge a possible setup), it appears Xdaamno isn't one of them.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

unvote, vote: Inhim

[xyzzy]

unvote, vote: Inhim

...Why?

[inHimshallibe]

I assume it's because I've been all over the place on the issue of Xdaamno. Otherwise, I'd guess it would be the tone or the perceived "slant" of my argument...

For crying out loud, xyzzy, don't just ask "...Why?"

Please, let's lynch xyzzyscum today.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

IhHim and xyzzy are scum together.

Mini-PBPA of inhim:

2 - Follows me.
8 - Hops to mlaker when nothings doin
9 - Hops to schiz when lynching looks good

10 - Unvotes schiz because xyzzy defends him

11 - "Meh, I just want someone to hang."
14 - Revotes schiz
16 - Fos's Sonic
18 - Sucks up to sonic

20 - Votes xyzzy because of his "behavior toward" schiz

Mini-PBPA of xyzzy:

Pre-20 - Finds it difficult to accuse anyone
21-22 - Responds to TCS critique of this
22 - Votes Yogurt
29 - votes schiz 1st time

32 - unvotes schiz after reading Inhim's rationale, saying "this is how [schiz] always plays"

34 - Votes stab, who he's kept on the back burner all game

39 - attacks xdaamno for appealing to playstyle

(when he unvoted schiz while appealing to playstyle)

42 - "agrees" with ihhim, hops back onto schiz

[xyzzy]

I assume it's because I've been all over the place on the issue of Xdaamno. Otherwise, I'd guess it would be the tone or the perceived "slant" of my argument...

For crying out loud, xyzzy, don't just ask "...Why?"

Please, let's lynch xyzzyscum today.

Wait, it's now scummy to ask for rationale for a vote?

I've always held that it's a bad idea to do anything based on playstyle being scummy, unless they act differently. I don't see how I've ever gone off of that.

[inHimshallibe]

I assume it's because I've been all over the place on the issue of Xdaamno. Otherwise, I'd guess it would be the tone or the perceived "slant" of my argument...

For crying out loud, xyzzy, don't just ask "...Why?"

Please, let's lynch xyzzyscum today.

Wait, it's now scummy to ask for rationale for a vote?

It's scummy to ask for rationale while contributing none of your own. It's also in-thread lurking.

And "Wait... so it's now scummy..?" ugh, that phrasing is just scummy in and of itself.

Well, then TCS, let's go ahead and bus my partner first, if we're "scum together," shall we? Yeah, I unvoted schismatized because of what xyzzy said - I was willing to give schis the benefit of my doubt. What he did later on I really thought was spin, but I suppose that is now just attributed to his playstyle as well.

[Xdaamno]

I'm inclined to side towards inhim simply because it's the first time I've had a real defense, but...

I've found scum split themselves on both sides of a wagon on a buddy of theirs, and assuming we have three left (yes, I've taken the liberty to gauge a possible setup), it appears Xdaamno isn't one of them.

Not saying that I

am

scum, but, for the record, I don't get this. If they sided on both sides of the wagon couldn't that mean me and someone else on my own wagon or scum, or... have I got this wrong?

Wait, it's now scummy to ask for rationale for a vote?

I've always held that it's a bad idea to do anything based on playstyle being scummy, unless they act differently. I don't see how I've ever gone off of that.

Constantly askintg for rationale can be annoying and simply not always right, from my experience. Every time someone votes it's not either 'They have a massive argument' or 'They're scum'.

Looking back at most of xyzzy's arguments, they do seem to be maintaining pressure while grasping at the same time, which dosen't seem that honest. If I had to pick someone today, it'd be him.


<<< Brief recollection of my thoughts. I'll do better from Monday onwards when I'm not on vacation, hopefully.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Actually, given my reread, xyzzy looks worse than inhim.

unvote, vote: xyzzy