Mini 470 - Some Guys Are Trying To Kill You (done)

[Haut Boy]

GATOR: I'd like to know what your hypothesis is now. Who do you think is the scum pair(/trio?)? Where do you rate everyone in scumminess?

scum trio:

Jenter, Thaiboxershorts (either that or he's just REALLY Paranoid) or Haut boy, Streetflo

Why Streeflo?

Streetflo's been playing "Under the radar" not posting much material but posting, i find that a bit suspiscious.

I also asked you about your whole list. Please answer my question.

FoS: Gator

[Gatorguy91]

GATOR: I'd like to know what your hypothesis is now. Who do you think is the scum pair(/trio?)? Where do you rate everyone in scumminess?

scum trio:

Jenter, Thaiboxershorts (either that or he's just REALLY Paranoid) or Haut boy, Streetflo

What is your reasoning behind this?

Its obvious of Jenter Hipocracy's and content after being under fire for not posting mouch content. Thaiboxershorts made a post saying i had lied trying to prove him as scum when i just made a mistake, so that's why i said or he is paranoid. Haut, YOU haven't done anything suspiscious but Zakk_status made a pointless bandwagon, and i explained Streetflo.

[Erotomachia]

[quote="Oman"]Jenter Scummy
Gator Scummy
Soup (mutually exclusive with Gator)/Streeflo Semi-scummy
Haut/JimmyTBS Unconfirmed
Niv Townish[quote]

Do you think that both Gator and Jenter could be scum? I personally don't think it's likely.

Anyway, we haven't had a vote count in while...I think this is the current tally:

Gatorguy91: Jenter Brolincani, ThaiBoxerShorts, Streeflo, Erotomachia
Jenter Brolincani: Gatorguy91, Jimmy R, Haut Boy
soupfly: Haut Boy~♥
Niv: Soupfly

I'm pretty happy with my vote on Gatorguy.

[Gatorguy91]

4-6... that's enough for me to claim.

I am a

Mason

. If the town would like to claim my partner i shall.

[ThaiBoxerShorts]

I don't like the smell of this -2 roleclaim that no one even asked for. Several questions have been asked of Gatorguy, most of which have been ignored. But unless I missed something,

no one

requested a roleclaim.

Especially considered that Jenter survived being at -1 for several hours without claiming. Gatorguy seriously jumped the gun, and it looks very, very bad. My vote stays right where it is.

Note to mod and others

: Weekends are usually when I'm at my most active, but this my sister is getting married tomorrow, so my activity might be sparse. I may not get on at all. But I will be back.

[Niv]

well, first, in a twelve player game, 2 self confiemable townies like thius is unlikly. this was a terrible play, you didn't need to claim. unless your partner would like to confirm you

HoS Gator

. don't want to vote until we are sure hi is lying.

[Streeflo]

I believe you.

Unvote; Vote: Jenter

[Streeflo]

EBWOP: But that was still a terrible play.

[Oman]

Do you think that both Gator and Jenter could be scum? I personally don't think it's likely.

I think its unlikely, but I am willing to beleive a connection. That jenter's orginal actions against gator were a distancing thing. Jenter wasn't fully into him early, just a little bit, enough to distance maybe.

I believe if Gator is scum that Jenter is his partner. Jenter was a little too eager to claim for a cop or doc, in my mind. I'd be willing to belive a Gator/Jenter masonry.

Plan A) If anyone disagrees say so but:
Jenter: Can you say if you're Gator's Mason or not?

I don't really want the mason to jump in and say "its me", I just want to hear if its Jenter.

Plan B) Lets not do this one yet. But if Gator's mason claims, then assuming they are really masons and not scum, we have two confirmed townies and can re-read on that.

Of course, this means Gator and Mason get NKed probably, but thats why they invented Docs

Just some prelim ideas.

Personally, I think its a bad gambit and I'll put on an

FoS Gator

because I'm just not sure at this point.

[ThaiBoxerShorts]

Plan B) Lets not do this one yet. But if Gator's mason claims,

then assuming they are really masons and not scum

, we have two confirmed townies and can re-read on that.

I don't see how we could safely make that assumption. All we would know is that we have two linked players, but nothing of their alignment.

Which actually gives me an idea. If Gator's partner claims, we still won't necessarily know their alignment and might go ahead and lynch Gator anyway. But we'll find out Gator's alignment upon his death, and can safely assume that his partner is of the same alignment, so we

will

have a confirmed townie or confirmed scum at the beginning of Round 2. And if they turn out to be masons, the other one will be effectively demoted to vanilla townie, and therefore will not be a likely nightkill target. So no matter what happens, we'll begin Day 2 with some

very

valuable information.

So yes, I think I'd like to hear from Gator's partner.

I've gone over this plan in my head a few times, and I'm pretty sure it's sound. It it's not, please let me know and explain why.

[Oman]

Thats a valuble idea Thai!

[Oman]

Except, his partner dies Night 1

[ThaiBoxerShorts]

Why? His partner would be a vanilla townie at that point. Hardly a worthwhile nightkill target.

[Oman]

CONFIRMED vanillia. Very special type. Its kind of dicey to leave any confirmed alive.

[ThaiBoxerShorts]

Eh, I don't see it. The scum would be better off firing blindly in hopes of hitting a power role, than wasting a shot on a confirmed vanilla.

Besides, the bottom line for me is that I

still

think Gator and anyone linked to him are scum.

[Oman]

I went over the numbers an you're right. If they hit the mason, they have a 0 chance of hitting a powerrole. Hit any other and its 1/7 or 2/7 depending on number of powerroles left.

I'd like to hear the mason claim ASAP from his partner.

[ThaiBoxerShorts]

On second thought, I think my last post revealed a fatal flaw in my plan. It would narrow the field in which scum could fire blindly, increasing their odds of actually

hitting

a power role. Bad for town.

My plan sucks. Disregard it and carry on.

[Jimmy R]

I don't know if this is a good idea or not but I'm gonna take the plunge, because people are focusing their attention in the wrong places.

Gator IS a Mason and I'm his partner. We're wasting our time focusing on him so can we please look elsewhere.

Going on whats happened, I'd suggest Jenter still, as suspicion mostly falls towards him, Especially since you now all know Gator is pro-Town.

I hope we have a doctor in our ranks now.

[Jenter Brolincani]

I wish I could know if we have a cop, because if we do he could check Gator overnight and get a good read on both Gator and Jimmy, without the chance of a mislynch. But of course since it's bad for the cop to claim we must struggle blindly on... I'm still erring towards a Gator lynch on the grounds that it would greatly increase our info levels d2 whatever the result, and Gator has played scummily. I'm just not sure...

Jimmy, in your role PM did it say Gator was definitely town? Same to Gator.

[Jimmy R]

We don't need a cop to check Gator. He's an innocent Mason with me and we win with the Town. He hasn't played scummily really, just made a few mistakes.

I didn't really want it to come to this but my hand has been forced somewhat.

You're still erring towards a Gator lynch, Jenter? Then I'm pretty sure you're not Town then.

I don't think I've doen anything to make anyone think I'm anything other than Pro-Town. The only reason anyone ever suspected me was because of my defence of Gator, which is obvious why now. I'd suggest everyone who is pro-Town trusts me and moves their vote from Gator...Probably to Jenter.

[Erotomachia]

TBS, a confirmed vanilla is a huge asset. I think you deserve a FOS just for that plan of yours.

I believe Gator, so I'll

unvote

. I'm ready to vote for Jenter. He's at L-2 now...does everyone else agree that he's the plan for today?

[Oman]

No, not yet....
Re-read in order.

Later:
Okay, Jimmy looks clean to me.

Vote: Jenter

[Oman]

...

Unvote Jenter

Jenter I would like you to claim before I put my vote back on (don't want you lynched before-hand). Can you also include any breadcrumbing for me? Cheers.

[Jenter Brolincani]

I have made a decision that I will now claim; my justification will be made clear below.

After a reread, I think that for now at least I will believe that Jimmy and Gatorguy are masons. As Gator and Jimmy both are against me, I will be the obvious kill tonight to make them both look scummy. Also, if I get killed today this will make them look bad for pushing for it. I don't want my role to go unused if it could help town either.

I am a vigilante. I did not use my role night 0 because it was so likely I would hit town and I had no idea who the scum were.

To allow my role to be used to benefit town the most, I suggest that I use a vote system to decide who I NK - a second lynch if you like.

Please

red

your votes rather than bolding them and say NK;Thigummywut rather than vote;Thingummywut.

I will do VCs for this.

The above plan should make sure I don't radomlly go hit someone with my machete without everyone agreeing.

Even so, I am NOT the play for today. We almost certainly have no more poweroles, so I beg that you do not lynch me. Gentlemen of the town, I am at your mercy.

[Jenter Brolincani]

My only crumb was at the start of the Gator pbpa btw;

V

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nteresting

g

ame (so far, any way).