New York 181 -- Game Over

[AngryPidgeon]

^ It was texcat. IIRC.

[texcat]

**Admits to using that logic. Offers up bottom for smacking**

But at least I was using some logic. And what logic are you using, Pisskop? In spite of multiple requests, you've never explained the case on me.

[pisskop]

Logic is not shoving a mislynch down out throats. Your logic sucks if that was you in part or whole.

[pisskop]

Aneninen, I'm not seeing why you think the posts don't add up. I think the kills point to Delta. The kills, that is the people who were stabbed (like Drixx), point to or indicate to me that Delta is the SK, because he was the one who had reasons for wanting them dead (like protecting his ass).

Like really?

[pisskop]

But I digress. AP is being unusually helpful in pointing out potential scum without pushing it himself.

[pisskop]

Tex, why do the kills other than Dixx point to Delta?

I'm not sure they do. After Drixx's push on Delta, no one was threatening to lynch him.

Like really? Is this post saying that you think Delta isn't the one behind the lynches or am I being dense?

[AngryPidgeon]

But I digress. AP is being unusually helpful in pointing out potential scum without pushing it himself.

So?

I don't think Texcat is scum. I guess I don't feel as strongly about that as some other reads. I only remember her making that case on Delta though. Maybe ARS did, but I can't actually remember and don't really care.

[pisskop]

But I digress. AP is being unusually helpful in pointing out potential scum without pushing it himself.

So?

I don't think Texcat is scum. I guess I don't feel as strongly about that as some other reads. I only remember her making that case on Delta though. Maybe ARS did, but I can't actually remember and don't really care.

Well if we aren't going to have further discussions we need to be lynching.

I don't like the backseat driver nature of your posting here.

[AngryPidgeon]

I already suggested that you talk about Anen and you evidently don't want to because that takes effort or whatever which is fine.

Just don't expect epiphanies from me. I don't really want responsibility right now because if Egg is town then I'll have egg on my face and I'd rather be lynched than make it to lylo in a situation where my top 2 reads are alive and/or I'm just mislynch bait. Anen is weird and I don't get your townread on him. Texcat at least is making posts that I can sort of see where she is coming from.

[pisskop]

What about Anen is weird?

I liked how he made several shorter posts recently instead of grandstanding.

[AngryPidgeon]

His whole take on SK hunting has been crunching VCA into numbers and just sorting them in descending order and pushing them?

He has been asking a lot of questions and not really updating his reads when he gets answers?

[Aneninen]

Testing the waters for mislynching me, AP?

[dragonspawn]

Help me lynch Tex.

shouldn't you be voting tex first? Why are you pushing tex while voting for me?

[dragonspawn]

Testing the waters for mislynching me, AP?

considering he has been pushing egg chances are he's asking questions.

I have mixed feelings about you. My head says you're town. My heart keeps telling me your not.

I don't like when they are divided. Best when my head and heart are aligned.

[pisskop]

Help me lynch Tex.

shouldn't you be voting tex first? Why are you pushing tex while voting for me?

Its like you don't think you'll be lynched.

[AngryPidgeon]

Testing the waters for mislynching me, AP?

*sarcastic response*

[dragonspawn]

Help me lynch Tex.

shouldn't you be voting tex first? Why are you pushing tex while voting for me?

Its like you don't think you'll be lynched.

I don't care if I'm lynched as long as our town lynched this serial killer.

[Egg]

AP, why am I more likely than dragonspawn to kill Royal?

Anen, dragonspawn is still more likely SK than RIP anyway but basically ABR felt scummy throughout the game, especially early, and that case has been made far too many times already. My issue is basically just that people agreed he was scummy and suddenly wrote him off for no reason. The lurky one liner wagony style is usually considered SK play in my experience. I know ABR is usually like that but it felt like he was even more like that than normal here. I don't get the replace out, but that's true regardless of his alignment.

Ap, I feel like Anen is genuinely trying. Yes, he made a lot of bad assumptions and his scores seem pointless. But it feels like a genuine attempt to find the SK and more genuine effort than the rest of us have put in.

I don't care if I'm lynched as long as our town lynched this serial killer.

I'd be more likely to believe this if you didn't keep saying it.

[dragonspawn]

Then stop putting me in positions where I need to repeat myself.

[Egg]

I'm only one vote. If I could lynch you by myself, I would.

[Aneninen]

I'm thinking...

Meanwhile, I'm necro-ing this post:

I dunno, I've been townreading him recently mostly because he has been putting in effort.

My read on him a few Days ago was based mostly on believing that he was not-mafia

which is now true of everybody. The only content I can remember from him recently has been walling at me with bullet points which is less than inspiring.

Can you explain the highlighted part?

[4nxi3ty]

dragonspawn - 2 - Egg, pisskop

AngryPidgeon - 1 - RIP
Egg - 1 - dragonspawn
pisskop - 1 - texcat


Not Voting: Aneninen, AngryPidgeon

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2015-05-29 17:35:59)

V/LA:

[AngryPidgeon]

@Anen: Basically I thought you were town for the same reasons ARS thought you were mafia . Every time ARS brought you up it just reminded me that I didn't want to lynch you.
Your vote/read history definitely did not correlate with someone who was on the mafia team. It was far too blatant and far too attention grabbing. Your Wake interactions also make it less likely.

@Egg: ARS definitely defended DS. I made a comment about lynching DS over my dead body and ARS chimed in to say something like "I'm glad someone has some sense". I realize ARS was stuck heavy tunneling on Anen-mafia/Delta-SK and that his townreads were sort of PoE (lol). I still doubt Dragon would have killed ARS. Possible I guess, but I'd expect Anen would have been a low-impact kill for DS or maybe you which would shake me up.

[Egg]

Ap, this was Royal's last post that gave an opinion on dragonspawn:

Btw notice how delta keeps voting for people on his wagon?

My first thought was that he was trying to flee.

Top suspects -- DeltaWave for reasons mentioned
DragonSpawn -- For recycling my arguments and trying to pass it off as original thought.

Top noteworthy -- RIP why wait for a claim at this point? All roles are in effect vanilla townie or SK.

Not really a defense.

Also, weird kills usually mean one of two things:
1) scum is in trouble and needs to shake things up. Could be a frame job except that Royal's tunnel was on Delta who got lynched. So Royal's reads probably didn't play into it as far as being able to frame somebody. So maybe scum was worried that Royal would re-direct to them and dragonspawn could fit that.
2) the "obvious kills" have terrible reads. You and I probably know who the obvious kills are (I'm thinking of three) but in case the SK doesn't, I don't want to say. But the three I have in mind have all different reads so this doesn't make sense here.

So who is in trouble, needs a shake up, and might have been Royal's next target for a tunnel? I mean, with Royal's recent posts in front of me, I see where she defended dragonspawn, but the post I quoted is more recent than that and is a complete 180 and says that dragonspawn is suspect #2 after Delta. RIP probably didn't need a shakeup, but I can kind of see him going "ok I might be next for Royal after dragonspawn" with this post so he kind of makes sense too. That Royal kill doesn't really make any sense from anyone else.

You only half answered my question though. Why do you think I killed Royal?

[pisskop]

vote: AP