It's the Team Mafia Tea Party (Dead Thread)

[Wisdom]

To be fair to ank, he wasn't the hammer/conftown

he still should have never lynched ces over reg.

pedit: but yeah blaming is pointless now

[xRECKONERx]

@zor: But seriously, should those surveys have been sent out already?

Also, our team PT is staying private, so I'll just reiterate here that the replace outs were bullshit, and forcing me/GreyICE into the same game because his team was flaky is also massive amounts of bullshit.

[Metal Sonic]

Thing is, we can choose our replacements. Which means that town replacements will always be fuckingh strong

Scum tend not to replace until the last minute, by then their slot is so deep in the hole that they're toast anyway




I haven't read the ending of the LT but I'll get to it

[Gammagooey]

The mini theme getting rerolled changed things pretty significantly too

I think Kats would have played way better as scum there and anyone looking back at Day 1 after the reroll I really think should have seen that shos and LLD were scum together after LLD's terrible switch off of him

Also you guys lynched all of my teammates and they were all town

stop that

[Cephrir]

Like, it's kind of sad that in the four games I was following there was at best one good scum game played (Titus) and one okay one (whoever the last remaining scum is in the normal, though I feel 99% sure it's sthar, I cleared Egg after Day 1)

[Gammagooey]

also also

hito's flavor is the best you guys

[GuyInFreezer]

Ika was pushing for reg flashlynch the entire lylo phase until unconvinced him to stay on bbt/ces.

If you really want to play a blame game direct it to me.
but don't you fucking dare blame my teammate for the lost when he was certainly not the cause of the loss.

[Metal Sonic]

@zor: But seriously, should those surveys have been sent out already?

Also, our team PT is staying private, so I'll just reiterate here that the replace outs were bullshit, and forcing me/GreyICE into the same game because his team was flaky is also massive amounts of bullshit.

Agreeing.


Don't know what history you and grey had, but replacements system is bullshit yeah. I think it should be changed. Vezok's suggested a BAM rule set(?)

[ChannelDelibird]

also also

hito's flavor is the best you guys

Yeah that was fantastic.

[Cephrir]

mod error was by no means easy, but I'm not sure that's actually because of the scum making it hard for us so much as the fact that every surviving townie on day 3 was completely insane, myself included

[Wisdom]

i personally blame ank because he didnt listen to me, not ika, but it doesnt change the fact that ika quickhammered without much thinking.

[Cephrir]

also also

hito's flavor is the best you guys

Yeah that was fantastic.

+1

I don't usually read flavor, but I read that

[zoraster]

@zor: But seriously, should those surveys have been sent out already?

that's a good question. I was planning on doing them after all games have completed, but in hindsight, doing it as each finished probably would have been better.

Replacements are a tricky question. The issue is that in a game with 64 players you're simply going to have a lot of replacements, and doing it in a way that gives teams some control is in keeping with the team mafia theme. We could pretend that replacements should never happen, but that would simply degrade the games.

[Quilford]

Also Metal Sonic making 331 posts in 3 days in Twin Trap and being absolutely wrong in pretty much all of them >__>

I was up for lynching you -> ETL so not that wrong? I still would have won the game.

Sure. And I guess all those peeps at Jonestown who had doubts about the Kool-Aid felt really vindicated after drinking it

[Gammagooey]

I think given that we'll be rating everyone anyway the teams that had major replacement issues are going to get punished for it there anyway

it's not perfect but team mafia isn't gonna be

[Metal Sonic]

yeah it's pretty tricky. The problem is that the team can choose their best possible replacement suitable for the game state and alignment. So they will pick the best man for the (town) job.


As for scum, due to the inherently different agenda, replacements don't work the same way for them... In fact a replacement will more often than not hinder them (Marquis -> former fish, LLD -> greyice)

Like, I lost the nightless ultimately because of a fatal mistake that I made, but certainly the replacements + a couple of other things made the game increasingly more difficult which I did my best to overcome.

For example, lynchbait ----> on town is a very real scenario that examples I think has happened in all of the town wins in TM2015, even including my own replacement into twin trap which may not have been the most accurate of scum hunting, but nonetheless a nail in the coffin for ETL

[xRECKONERx]

mod error was by no means easy, but I'm not sure that's actually because of the scum making it hard for us so much as the fact that every surviving townie on day 3 was completely insane, myself included

Mod Error would've been about 70% easier if Wisdom had taken his meds and just calmed the fuck down.

Scum just hid in plain sight and it wasn't until we actually cut down on some of the noise that we were able to get to it. shos & LLD were both pretty apparent on D1, in hindsight, but there was so much other shit going on and so much noise that we couldn't see it.

[Metal Sonic]

Also Metal Sonic making 331 posts in 3 days in Twin Trap and being absolutely wrong in pretty much all of them >__>

I was up for lynching you -> ETL so not that wrong? I still would have won the game.

Sure. And I guess all those peeps at Jonestown who had doubts about the Kool-Aid felt really vindicated after drinking it

Well sorry bro. Like I said, I thought you were an evil scum mastermind. Be complimented. I overestimated your scum game.


I was on the right track with lynching ETL after you and becoming obvtown, so you can say that I was wrong and infuriating and all that but by no means was my play bad and you should never try to sell it that way ?_?

[wgeurts]

Espeonage was buisy with uni so :/
My reads in all the other games were a lot more acurate than in my own. I had shos/TierShift nailed straight away. Once I finished catching up in the large I had AD correct as well.
Also.
MS I WAS RIGHT DAMMIT.
I need to trust myself more, the VN scum team made me doubt myself.

[Metal Sonic]

mod error was by no means easy, but I'm not sure that's actually because of the scum making it hard for us so much as the fact that every surviving townie on day 3 was completely insane, myself included

Mod Error would've been about 70% easier if Wisdom had taken his meds and just calmed the fuck down.

Scum just hid in plain sight and it wasn't until we actually cut down on some of the noise that we were able to get to it. shos & LLD were both pretty apparent on D1, in hindsight, but there was so much other shit going on and so much noise that we couldn't see it.

You had the scum fucking up their fake claims to work with. Tier shift was inactive --> scum typically don't want to replace (see me bitching about replacements here) and then grey was also inactive ---> how did you catch him after he trackers confirmed to visit shos was shocking

[Metal Sonic]

Espeonage was buisy with uni so :/
My reads in all the other games were a lot more acurate than in my own. I had shos/TierShift nailed straight away. Once I finished catching up in the large I had AD correct as well.
Also.
MS I WAS RIGHT DAMMIT.
I need to trust myself more, the VN scum team made me doubt myself.

Lol, you were not right. Only ooba was right.

Dayumm he gets all my respect points

[wgeurts]

Ooba won that one for us, I agree.

[Metal Sonic]

Well pleased to provide y'all some fun in my scum games though. At least a strong challenge despite tons of setbacks.


Everyone has to sit with the revelation that Y&B has the possibility of winning team mafia so *shrugs*

[T-Bone]

mod error was by no means easy, but I'm not sure that's actually because of the scum making it hard for us so much as the fact that every surviving townie on day 3 was completely insane, myself included

Mod Error would've been about 70% easier if Wisdom had taken his meds and just calmed the fuck down.

Scum just hid in plain sight and it wasn't until we actually cut down on some of the noise that we were able to get to it. shos & LLD were both pretty apparent on D1, in hindsight, but there was so much other shit going on and so much noise that we couldn't see it.

We should have had a perfect town win, except we couldn't get along.

[Metal Sonic]

I haven't read the juicy that is this PT yet because I'm on VLA so I'll go do that