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[Xdaamno]

EBWOP: Also, by saying I'm scum you're saying I bussed xyzzy. I don't see much evidence of a sudden change onto him in my past posts.

[Xdaamno]

Double EBWOP: Damn, new page. I'm reposting here because from my experience arguments at the end of pages don't get read

I think you're wrong. We don't know for sure that it is all-stars vs non-all stars or else you would be lynched already.

Even if we were fairly sure that it is, indeed, all-stars vs. non all-stars there are plenty of reasons to not use a safe claim.
- It was day one and know one had really mentioned that idea whenever you claimed.
- To avoid counterclaiming someone.
- To avoid a rolename cop.

You're contradicting yourself. The

only

significant reason anyone's voting me rests on the fact that it is all-stars versus non-stars. You can say my argument's wrong if it isn't that way, but then your argument would also be wrong. If your offence is correct, my defence

must

be correct. For my defence to be naturally wrong your argument would have to be naturally wrong too.

[inHimshallibe]

Fletcher greatly improving.

HMMM...

In case we

are

wrong, I don't want to give the (presumed) 2 mafia left a chance to discuss things. I might be for a name claim Today.

vote: Xdaamno

[Sonicpulsar]

Fletcher, no one has really discussed why IH was killed or what it implies BEYOND the all-stars stuff. Even if the all-stars theory is correct, it's still a good thing to discuss why someone was killed, etc. That's all I'm saying. Thus far, there's been very little discussion on that.

TCS, your massclaim suggestion and order is interesting. You put at the head and yourself at the end. Who puts themselves at the end? If you're actually asking people to name claim, you should be the first damn person, not the last. That looks retarded and/or scummy to put yourself last.

I'm surprised at the rapidity with which these last votes are coming. I sure as hell hope this name claim theory works out. If it does, this game should be basically over, which seems a bit ridiculous to me.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Gilbert Arenas.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Your turn, smartass

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Hurry, cause Daamno just got hammered.

[Fletcher]

No he didn't TCS, Adam the Amazing unvoted earlier.

You're contradicting yourself. The

only

significant reason anyone's voting me rests on the fact that it is all-stars versus non-stars. You can say my argument's wrong if it isn't that way, but then your argument would also be wrong. If your offence is correct, my defence

must

be correct. For my defence to be naturally wrong your argument would have to be naturally wrong too.

Your argument is that you are town and that if you were scum you would have gone with a safe name correct? I was explaining why as scum you would not, in fact, go with that safe claim/name.

EBWOP: Also, by saying I'm scum you're saying I bussed xyzzy. I don't see much evidence of a sudden change onto him in my past posts.

I don't know what you mean by that.

Fletcher, no one has really discussed why IH was killed or what it implies BEYOND the all-stars stuff.

I kind of assumed it was obvious, he wasn't scummy. I also don't think if there is a doc that he would be on the top of their list to protect.

[Thok]

Official Vote Count

Xdaamno (3): (Fletcher, The Central Scrutinizer, inHimshallibe)
Adam the Amazing (0):
inHimshallibe (0):
Fletcher (0):
The Central Scrutinizer (0):
Sonicpulsar (0):
YogurtBandit (0):

Not Voting (4): (Adam the Amazing, YogurtBandit, Xdaamno, Sonicpulsar)

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

[Xdaamno]

-_-

Firstly, inhim, were you 'checking for reactions' or not?

Secondly, please to god nobody hammer me until you dig a little deeper, because you're running on a conditional point alone here. You've haven't even argued my connection with xyzzy, etc.

[Fletcher]

Unvote

[Sonicpulsar]

Your turn, smartass

Tracy McGrady

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Thanks.

FOS: Fletch and Adam

It's not like we didn't suspect Fletch and mlaker anyway... this hopping off looks portentious.

[Xdaamno]

What are you arguing, a 3-scum pairing when 1 scum's already been identified?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Didn't say they both had to be scum, just that both are under suspicion.

There you go assuming numbers of scum again. I know it's typical of games this size, but... you've been around for three and a half months. I didn't know the typical number of scum in a 12-player game at 3.5 months.

Can we please lynch xdaamno?

[Xdaamno]

Didn't say they both had to be scum, just that both are under suspicion.

There you go assuming numbers of scum again. I know it's typical of games this size, but... you've been around for three and a half months. I didn't know the typical number of scum in a 12-player game at 3.5 months.

Can we please lynch xdaamno?

I specifically worded what I said to mean 'Are you implying there's 4 scum' (Regardless of whether I was right or not). If you were, that would mean you were going against Occam's Razor or you have some inside knowledge.

I didn't know the typical number of scum in a 12-player game at 3.5 months.

Nub

I knew the typical number of scum in a 12-player game at about 4 weeks, after reading some minis and researching some good game setups.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Well, the first 12-player game I played in had 2 scum... so, there you go.

[Xdaamno]

That dosen't change the fact you're wrong, it just changes the fact you aren't a nub.

[Xdaamno]

it just changes the fact you aren't a nub.

Bad wording, you get what I mean.

[Fletcher]

It's not like we didn't suspect Fletch and mlaker anyway... this hopping off looks portentious.

What motive do you think I have by hopping off?

[Fletcher]

Oh, and you never explained why you suggested the order of name claiming that you did.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Oh, and you never explained why you suggested the order of name claiming that you did.

My personal scumlist, from most to least.

[Sonicpulsar]

Well, I haven't made good with my promise to make a scummy list but it seems fairly moot at this point til we figure out the name claim stuff. At least a lot of what I was building has seemingly been thrown up in the air.

I'm keeping my

FOS Fletcher

up. I don't like that he was so quick to throw in a second vote and then just as quick to unvote. For me, I have to be fairly confident of my decision before I'll vote for someone and it then takes fairly compelling evidence to cause me to unvote and/or change my vote.

At this point, I guess I'm waiting for more name claiming. Or at least an explanation for why you (the 4 remaining people) are choosing not to. TCS, myself and Xdaamno all have.

[Xdaamno]

Well, I haven't made good with my promise to make a scummy list but it seems fairly moot at this point til we figure out the name claim stuff. At least a lot of what I was building has seemingly been thrown up in the air.

I'm keeping my

FOS Fletcher

up. I don't like that he was so quick to throw in a second vote and then just as quick to unvote. For me, I have to be fairly confident of my decision before I'll vote for someone and it then takes fairly compelling evidence to cause me to unvote and/or change my vote.

Hm. You could redeem yourself provide

providing

a 'scummy' list. And your second paragraph is overly reserved play; at this point, 1 vote wouldn't harm anyone and it'd apply pressure.

[Adam The Amazing]

If we're nameclaiming, we should do it before we know for sure whether or not the players are town and non-players are scum.

I unvoted because I don't want a ridiculously quick day. Good thing I did, too, because otherwise the day would be over. Let's slow down, and since SonicPulsar is so intent on discussing IH's death, let's do just that. I think this is showing SonicPulsar to be town, personally. SP, what do you think about it?

I don't think anybody caught that non-players were the mafia. What I quoted was posted on page one, but also on page 1 Thok stated that he was going to keep that information ambiguous for the moment (post 16). I think the only reason it got brought up again was because I replaced; the information there was months old, who could remember it?

I looked up the players for the All-Star game, it's not that I knew all the players off the top of my head. However, it's been all very big names that have been killed off; I'm a very big star as well, if I do say so. This page tells the lineups for the game. It's what I used... hooray wikipedia!

Yao Ming.