Mini 470 - Some Guys Are Trying To Kill You (done)

[Streeflo]

Jenter dead = no doc.

Vote: ThaiBoxerShorts

[Jimmy R]

Alright then, lets see if he comes out.

vote ThaiBoxerShorts

[Jenter Brolincani]

Dangnabit!!!


Sorry Niv...

And of course... GO TOWN!!!

I bequeath my machete to you all to use when lynching people, as a better execution weapon than that noose.

[soupfly]

bummer

let's have a closer look at the lurkers

[Erg0]

Unvote

Streeflo, Jimmy: Which of you is scum? Or is it both?

[Jimmy R]

Unvote

Streeflo, Jimmy: Which of you is scum? Or is it both?

What are you on about? I'm a mason...TBS has lurked this whole game, it's time he had some input.

[Erg0]

Did you read my post 522? Even two votes is a dangerous number today.

[Gatorguy91]

Vote Thai

[soupfly]

At this point we have no choice but to assume that gator and jimmy are town masons. If its a ruse then hats off to them but since we can't risk another town lynch I don't think suspicion on them makes sense.

Situations from my perspective:

Town:

Gatorguy91
Jimmy R
soupfly

suspects=5 of which 3 are scum

Erg0 --> not sure
Erotomachia --> sensed genuine town play from him...is he playing the town role to perfectly?
Streeflo --> Lurking since beginning
ThaiBoxerShorts --> As I stated earlier he's been playing very passive...posting enough to not be considered a lurker but not posting/voting in a way that would draw attention to him.
Haut Boy --> Lurked Bigtime (a replacement)

As far as I'm concerned those 5 are potential scum given that i'm a townie. <--note this is only how I see it because the rest of you have no way to verify my claim.

In any case, we've lost three of the most vocal and active players: Niv, Oman and Jenter which would lead me towards the people who have been playing under the radar.

At this point my suspicion is on:

Thaiboxershorts and Streetflo

My analysis on 3 votes for TBS

Hammer is 5 votes. Thaiboxershorts had 3 votes on him but mafia did not do a quick hammer. I believe Jimmy to be town so that would mean that there are two scenarios:

1) If Thaiboxershorts is town then Streetflo and ErgO are both scum. If either Streetflo or ErgO were also town then coupled with Jimmy's town vote that would be enough for a quick hammer, which hasn't happened (assuming that people have been visiting site which I assume that Mafia are doing since they probably controlled length of night phase)

2) If Thaiboxershorts is Scum then there's not much we can read on anybody.

Based on this, lynching TBS (if he's scum) will not really give us any further info. Lynching Streetflo or ErgO would establish a link with the other.

So the big question is, just how guilty do you guys really think that TBS is?

[soupfly]

EBWOP well now that Gator has voted that's two town votes so unless a quick hammer happens we'll know that TBS is town.

If he's town then both Streetflo and ErgO are scum.

[Erg0]

If he's town then we're most likely done and it doesn't matter who else is scum. We need to get it right today, we can't assume that we'll have a chance to get the scum tomorrow. I fail to see how I would be scum if he's town, since I unvoted him to try and avoid this exact situation - if I hadn't unvoted then TBS could be at lynch-1 now.

FoS: soupfly

for what looks like a bit of a stretch.

In LyLo, I generally go by the rule of only relying on the lack of quick hammer as a tell once every potential voter has posted. I'm going to wait and see what happens here before drawing any conclusions. If TBS is town then we're basically screwed unless Jimmy and Gator are lying about their roles. If Streeflo is also town then we're exceptionally screwed.

Side point: does everyone actually agree that we're probably in LyLo? It's not a given, but it does seem likely to me so I think we should be playing accordingly.

[soupfly]

EBWOP well now that Gator has voted that's two town votes so unless a quick hammer happens we'll know that TBS is town.

If he's town then both Streetflo and ErgO are scum.

Sorry, messed up here. This is backwards, unless a quick hammer happens we'll know TBS is scum.

[Haut Boy]

Erotomachia --> sensed genuine town play from him...is he playing the town role to perfectly?

FoS: soupfly

May I point you to this page?

[Haut Boy]

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php ... Too_Townie

Or that. That works wonderfully as well.

[Jimmy R]

Yeah...unless any of the remaining folks haven't been around, I'm leaning towards TBS being scum.

[Erotomachia]

This is pretty much the worst case scenario.

It's only Day 2 and we're already at Lylo. This is utterly hopeless...because I really don't see how we can manage to lynch scum every day from now on.

Even though we have a 3/5 chance of getting scum, I honestly have no idea who might be scum.

Based on this, lynching TBS (if he's scum) will not really give us any further info. Lynching Streetflo or ErgO would establish a link with the other.

We don't need to lynch for info - we're at Lylo. Getting info won't help when it's game over.

FOS: soupfly

[Streeflo]

I have been advocating ThaiBoxerShort lynch from Day 1. I plainly stated my suspicions went in this order: Oman, Thai/Niv.
I don't think two votes is much of a problem, as mafia would have to be extraordinarily fast to land a 3-man quicklynch.

bummer

let's have a closer look at the lurkers

I don't think there are any more lurkers now, except Thai at the moment.

Erg0 --> not sure
Erotomachia --> sensed genuine town play from him...is he playing the town role to perfectly?
Streeflo --> Lurking since beginning
ThaiBoxerShorts --> As I stated earlier he's been playing very passive...posting enough to not be considered a lurker but not posting/voting in a way that would draw attention to him.
Haut Boy --> Lurked Bigtime (a replacement)

Okay, you accuse me of lurking since the beginning. I admit, I lurked at the beginning of the game, but only because I announced that my computer had exploded and I was trying to find a replacement. After that, I don't find it fair to be accused of lurking.

Please don't use the Too Townie arguement. kthxbai.
Both Erg0 and Erotomachia have fewer posts than me, but why not accuse them of "lurking"?

I'll

Unvote

reluctantly since you guys seem extraordinarily paranoid.

FoS: Soupfly

On a completely unrelated note, no lynch could be an option.

[Erg0]

Two votes may not be much of a problem, but TBS was at three votes until you unvoted, so only two more were needed for a quicklynch. I'm happier now that you've dropped off, though there's still a possible threat.

No lynch is worth considering, though it may not improve our position much. If we do it now then we won't have the option to do it on future days when it may be more helpful, so it's a bit of a balancing act.

I'd like to hear from TBS at this point.

[Erotomachia]

I don't see how a no lynch will help. A mason will probably get killed and we'll be in the same situation tomorrow.

[soupfly]

with gator and and jimmy keeping their votes on TBS and no quick lynch I would say he's probably scum. that is if we assume that there's three mafia which we've all pretty much assumed. I'm ready for a TBS vote.

Erotomachia --> sensed genuine town play from him...is he playing the town role to perfectly?

FoS: soupfly

May I point you to this page?

ffs, i'm not saying he's guilty.

[soupfly]

i'm traveling for the next couple of days.

at this point i must assume that mafia have had plenty of time to use gator and jimmy's votes to do a quick lynch. they haven't and so its a good bet that TBS is scum.

vote=Thaiboxershorts

see you in a a few.

[Streeflo]

i'm traveling for the next couple of days.

at this point i must assume that mafia have had plenty of time to use gator and jimmy's votes to do a quick lynch. they haven't and so its a good bet that TBS is scum.

vote=Thaiboxershorts

see you in a a few.

I don't really like this reasoning...

[Erg0]

I don't see how a no lynch will help. A mason will probably get killed and we'll be in the same situation tomorrow.

A nightkill on one mason would confirm the other as town. Right now they're only partially confirmed.

[Gatorguy91]

BUMP

[Erg0]

Mod:

Prod on ThaiBoxerShorts?