NY 186: Mafia In Japan - Mafia Victory!

[ika]

hey kaboose, if it sucks why arent you trying to move it foward and ask people stuff and try to get reads?

[Espeonage]

If we are PLing anyone it will be Klingon.

ika is ok for now, ika is readable.

Claim is fine, doubt it's real claim but fine nonetheless.

Kaboose's reaction to the claim is absolutely terrible though. A large normal is not a game you are going to solve. There is no town motivation to wanting to decide of the claim is real. If the claim is real they don't need protection or support of any kind.

Vote: Kaboose

This is a good lynch.

[pisskop]

vote: kaboose

Kaboose why did you feel the need to soft to try to confirm WW as town?

[Kaboose]

Another waste of time is writing out a big list with one read,that could have been posted much easier as, 'my only read is this'.

It's not a read. If you would read, you would know that the claim that person made has all but confirmed WW town to me.

[Kaboose]

If we are PLing anyone it will be Klingon.

ika is ok for now, ika is readable.

Claim is fine, doubt it's real claim but fine nonetheless.

Kaboose's reaction to the claim is absolutely terrible though. A large normal is not a game you are going to solve. There is no town motivation to wanting to decide of the claim is real. If the claim is real they don't need protection or support of any kind.

Vote: Kaboose

This is a good lynch.

Fo

I'm not trying to solve it today. But I'm going to have everything ready for you when you all mislynch me or I get NKd. It's a list, of what I KNOW. When I flip, you all will KNOW the same stuff at that point. Hence why I asked you all to just trust me in one of my early posts. I don't expect anyone to just believe me now, but there will possibly be a time when I'm dead and you know I'm town and from that you'll know this list was useful and you can use it after that.

[Kaboose]

vote: kaboose

Kaboose why did you feel the need to soft to try to confirm WW as town?

What?

[Espeonage]

ok but like, 1. The claim is wifom to begin with. 2. Town doesn't really care if the claim is true or not. 3. There isn't any role that combos with it in a way to make it conf town.

The only motivation I currently see for your actions is that you are scum posturing to get cred.

[Espeonage]

And what part of large normal doesn't make sense to you?

[pisskop]

vote: kaboose

Kaboose why did you feel the need to soft to try to confirm WW as town?

What?

Like you went out of your way to clear her when she was under no threat. you softed specific range of roles to do so, and I dont know why town would make themselves the target of night actions when there was no reason to.

[Kaboose]

ok but like, 1. The claim is wifom to begin with. 2. Town doesn't really care if the claim is true or not. 3. There isn't any role that combos with it in a way to make it conf town.

The only motivation I currently see for your actions is that you are scum posturing to get cred.

So I can't be town trying to help? Thanks, I appreciate your vote of confidence.

Also me knowing what my role is helps me believe WW's claim is correct. Because I believe the claim I'm fully ready to label them 100% town as long as they're telling the truth about the claim. I endorse them completely.

Why is that hard to understand? The game is a puzzle, two pieces have to connect eventually, and it just so happens these pieces fit together enough for me to know this.

I'm sorry you don't understand.

[pisskop]

Like either you just gave away data to scum or lied about your role. Why would you do either?

[Kaboose]

And what part of large normal doesn't make sense to you?

Is this at me?

vote: kaboose

Kaboose why did you feel the need to soft to try to confirm WW as town?

What?

Like you went out of your way to clear her when she was under no threat. you softed specific range of roles to do so, and I dont know why town would make themselves the target of night actions when there was no reason to.

I'm just trying to provide the most information I can. I was able to confirm someone town and I think that is a good play to make.

We start with no information, we win when we get enough information to make informed decisions. If I can confirm someone, then I would like to think this is a positive to be shared with the group. It's not like me doing this has put their life in danger any more than it already was. Given the fact scum already know WW is town, they didn't need to be told. However town do need to be told. WW could make every post in the game "I'm town." to us, but how are we to believe them? I have decided to endorse WW as town to let the rest of you know it from someone other than their own mouth.

[Kaboose]

Like either you just gave away data to scum or lied about your role. Why would you do either?

What did I give away to scum that they didn't already know?

[ika]

kaboos, why did you ignore my post?

[Kaboose]

hey kaboose, if it sucks why arent you trying to move it foward and ask people stuff and try to get reads?

This?

I'll answer it with a question:

Why aren't you? I can't make D1 not suck, please show me a D1 where it didn't suck. These games get better as they go.

Even if D1 doesn't suck, it'll be less fun than D2, which is less fun than D3 and so on... So relatively speaking D1 is terrible.

[ika]

hey kaboose, if it sucks why arent you trying to move it foward and ask people stuff and try to get reads?

This?

I'll answer it with a question:

Why aren't you? I can't make D1 not suck, please show me a D1 where it didn't suck. These games get better as they go.

Even if D1 doesn't suck, it'll be less fun than D2, which is less fun than D3 and so on... So relatively speaking D1 is terrible.

Cus im not the one bitching about it? like your entire complain is that it sucks. i have not once said such thing. so its your job to make it less scuky or repalce out. As for a non sucky day 1, ya i could if they were not ongoings.

So i ask again: Why are you not moving the gamestate forward or trying to make it less sucky?

[Mainez]

checking in a bit, still tired from the marathon and late nights.

i like grayfox's posts a lot, only has 3, but 3 of high quality. that's a town read for me.

agree that kaboose's reaction to the claim is not the best reaction, i'm not sure whether that's a scum read. it's my first large game here, i don't see the need to make sure a list and endorse someone as town. to "confirm someone as town" seems like something scum will do since scum knows who's town, so they can easily "make" someone town.

[Boonskiies]

Get the fuck off of Kaboose. He's almost as townie as Mainez.

Unvote

[Klingoncelt]

If we are PLing anyone it will be Klingon.

You need to explain that.

[Nero Cain]

I think Nero's Scum.

here celt calls me scum but doesn't vote. If she thought I was scum then why would she not vote?

Its also interesting to note that this very similar to the way that I called her scumbuddy House out and she attacked me over it but did not vote me. You can read about it here

this from celt is extremely manipulative.

She's also avoiding answering things. Like she didn't explain why she wasn't voting me at first and she's being noncommittal as to why she was scum reading me and all we got is this meaningless hogwash as if if her "Nero is scummy for his style" isn't vague enough.

As for Ika its a combination of gut, meta/tone and association.

death miller is my last game that I played with town Ika.

Look at how glee, carefree and doing stuff he is.

this is his last completed game that I can find. Same as above.

And I am not really seeing that same kind of play this game.

If Ika thinks my reads and opinions are bad then fine but what is the town motivation here? I don't see any and I feel like its an attempted discredit.

Why do you think this is bad reasoning, Woody?

How do you feel about Klingy and Kaboose?

I do not have a good read on Kaboose. Celt is prob scum though.

[Nero Cain]

Kaboose wagon kinda sucks.

vote:Celt

to me piss and espy!

[RadiantCowbells]

Votecount #1.4

Klingoncelt

(1): Nero Cain

GrayFoxxxx

Nero Cain

(3): Klingoncelt, WoodyWoodpecker, Quaroath

Salamence20

:

pisskop

:

ika

Mainez

PMysterious

Boonskiies

Quaroath

(1): Radja

evilpacman18

:

WoodyWoodpecker

ConManMick

SithLord84

(1): PMysterious

Jazzmyn

Radja

(2): Salamence20, I am Innocent

I Am Innocent

(1): Mainez

Kaboose

(5): Jazzmyn, ConManMick, Grayfoxxxx, Espeonage, Pisskop

Espeonage

Not voting

(5): ika, evilpacman18, Kaboose, SithLord84, Boonskiies

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Night falls in (expired on 2015-07-18 12:00:00).

Waxing and Wanding has been replaced with Salamence20 at his own request.

SithLord84 has been prodded!

Welcome to the new players!

[Salamence20]

こんにちは

私は日本のすべてを掲示する必要があります。異議？

[Nero Cain]

^
scum

[Salamence20]

The nero wagon is/was shit.

Ika, Piss, and to an extent, PM are all good forces of policy