Mini 470 - Some Guys Are Trying To Kill You (done)

[Maz Medias]

Mod:

Prod on ThaiBoxerShorts?

Will do. I may be gone the next couple days, I warn you, so if he's not prodded/replaced shortly you'll need to discuss without him for a couple days.

[Erg0]

Excellent service.

If we haven't heard from him in 2 days then I'm going to put my vote back on him. At this point I think there's an excellent chance that he's scum.

[soupfly]

sorry if these quotes are out of order.

Okay, you accuse me of lurking since the beginning. I admit, I lurked at the beginning of the game, but only because I announced that my computer had exploded and I was trying to find a replacement. After that, I don't find it fair to be accused of lurking.

Please don't use the Too Townie arguement. kthxbai.
Both Erg0 and Erotomachia have fewer posts than me, but why not accuse them of "lurking"?

I'll

Unvote

reluctantly since you guys seem extraordinarily paranoid.

FoS: Soupfly

my point about the lurkers is that two of the most active posters (oman/niv) got lynched on account of the fact that they were posting alot. even jenter got lynched because he had to claim since he was also posting alot and got heat. what i'm saying about the lurkers isn't necessarily about post count but about how involved they've been in looking for scum. So far mafia has let town fight each other while keeping a low profile. you can keep a low profile even by posting enough to say you're not lurking.

Even though we have a 3/5 chance of getting scum, I honestly have no idea who might be scum.

Based on this, lynching TBS (if he's scum) will not really give us any further info. Lynching Streetflo or ErgO would establish a link with the other.

We don't need to lynch for info - we're at Lylo. Getting info won't help when it's game over.

FOS: soupfly

Jeez, I didn't say lynch for info. My analysis was based on the idea that if two townies vote wrong then mafia can quick lynch (3 quick votes) and game over.

i'm traveling for the next couple of days.

at this point i must assume that mafia have had plenty of time to use gator and jimmy's votes to do a quick lynch. they haven't and so its a good bet that TBS is scum.

vote=Thaiboxershorts

see you in a a few.

I don't really like this reasoning...

If you assume that Jimmy and Gator are town then TBS is most definitely mafia since he hasn't been quick lynched yet. I wouldn't have advocated this play at the beginning of Day 2 (nor was I suspicious of TBS) but its already been done so its the best play at the moment.

If you don't agree with my reasoning then please tell me why you think I'm wrong.

[Streeflo]

Don't get me wrong, I think TBS is scum. I just don't really believe the idea that mafia could pile on that quickly without suspicion.

But the thread hasn't been active for a few days and no votes, so I guess your idea has some merit. It just doesn't bide well with me.

Really the only reason why I took my vote off TBS was because Erg0 wasn't comfortable with it. TBS has had a few days to answer, so

Vote: TBS

[Erg0]

Well, that'd be lynch-1. This one's happening with me or without me, so I might as well...

Vote: ThaiBoxerShorts

[Erotomachia]

I think we lost.

[Jimmy R]

I think we lost.

Or hes going to come up as scum and this is your attempt to look innocent because you know that

[Erotomachia]

Way too fast of a lynch (he didn't even get a chance to post), which makes me think multiple scum were on the wagon. And since all of them are still alive...

[soupfly]

i think it was the wrong play early on to get two quick town votes (jimmy/gator) on anybody but it happened...afterwards the lack of a quick lynch speaks for itself. i don't think town lost.

[Erg0]

The general lack of gloating is a pretty good sign, too.

[Streeflo]

I don't think we lost. We probably should have had more discussion before the lynch though.

[Gatorguy91]

Where is Maz?

[Erg0]

He said he was away for a couple of days, so I'd imagine that's why we're still in twilight.

[Maz Medias]

Well, I had actually just replaced TBS, but never mind.
---
The town quickly surrounds and captures

ThaiBoxerShorts

before he even has a chance to respond. From his fine suit and calm demeanor, you glean that he was in fact the notorious

Mafia Don

!

It is now Night Three. Get to it.

[Maz Medias]

Day arrives -

Gatorguy, Townie Mason

is found dead. Sadly, his brothership could not protect him from this...

It is now Day Three. With six yet living, it's four to lynch.

[Gatorguy91]

Aw, man. I think i know who the scum is. Go town!

[Streeflo]

Well, not that we've ever actually questioned it, but at least Jimmy R is confirmed now.

I think we lost.

Or hes going to come up as scum and this is your attempt to look innocent because you know that

I don't know what to think about this, cause I usually don't get into WIFOM like this.

And what about ThaiBoxerShorts lurking the entire day away. Was it because he just couldn't reach a computer, or because he felt there was no way around his lynch?

[Erotomachia]

We may have 1 confirmed, but we're still in Lylo.

I think we need to hear from Haut Boy; he hasn't posted in a while.

[Erg0]

TBS never made a post on the site the whole of day 2 so I assume that he either didn't have access or just doesn't like us any more.

FoS: Streeflo

for raising spurious points.

Do scum masons count as 'Normal' for the purposes of defining a Normal Game?

[Erotomachia]

I find it pretty suspicious that you would even consider that. We're in Lylo: I really don't think it's the time to be considering that our claimed mason might be scum. You're looking for a complicated explanation when there's a very simple one at hand.

[Streeflo]

You misunderstand me. I pointed out that

Well, not that we've ever actually questioned it,

but at least Jimmy R is confirmed now.

On a completely UNRELATED note,

I don't know what to think about this, cause I usually don't get into WIFOM like this.

I don't want think think about the WIFOM behind Erotomachia's statement. because he was "trying to look innocent" or whatever. It has nothing to do with Jimmy R besides the fact that he brought it up.

I don't know where your getting scum masons from, as I never even close to remotely suspected Jimmy R in the post. I'm not going to FoS you because it seemed like

maybe

a genuine misunderstanding, but

IGMEOY

.

[Erg0]

Streeflo: which post are you responding to?

[Streeflo]

TBS never made a post on the site the whole of day 2 so I assume that he either didn't have access or just doesn't like us any more.

FoS: Streeflo

for raising spurious points.

Do scum masons count as 'Normal' for the purposes of defining a Normal Game?

I was under the impression my spurious points were because you thought I was suggesting a scum mason pair. Which I wasn't.

Or was it about TBS not posting at all, which was not really a point, but rather me thinking aloud.

[Erg0]

Ah ok. The first paragraph was in response to your comment on TBS (which I felt was a possible smokescreen). The second paragraph was raising a point for discussion, not in response to anything.

[soupfly]

A couple of points:

1) No point in no voting today now that Jimmy is confirmed as mason. No vote tomorrow.

2) Did a reread of the thread and I can't say that any of my four suspects (erotomachia, streetflo, ergo or haut boy) are slam dunk cases for votes.

3) Because there is no clear cut scum let's not rush to put anybody at two votes because we need more discussion.

My thoughts following my reread:

-> Streetflo: I think that Streetflo is most likely a townie. I take back what he said about lurking because that was only in first half of game and he's been quite active since. He's done nothing scummy to date and has also been fairly active in hunting scum. At the moment I'm assuming he's townie.

-> Erotomachia: I think of him as the boy scout cause he says and does all the right things. Nothing scummy from him yet. Only thing I would have liked to see is more involvement in scum hunting. He's posted his opinions but has not really stirred any controversy with his play.

-> ErgO: Nothing really scummy here. What I like about Ergo is that he's not been afraid of controversy. There are a couple of WIFOM moments where you can interpret his actions but i don't think its enough for real suspicion.

-> Haut Boy: Lurking big time. Was also a replacement player. There's no content to analyze here because he's barely posted. The only defense here is: Would the original player and replacement ignore this game if they were in a mafia role?

My gut at the moment is leaning towards a Erotomachia/Haut Boy scum pairing.

It would be helpful if the rest of you post your thoughts on the others. Don't make definitive votes yet please.