Mini 485: Formula One (Game Over)

[Zindaras]

I'm not a mason. I have no way of contacting my teammate othre than through this thread, and I don't even know if he is also town-aligned. SPAG claimed to have a teammate

I see nothing in SPAG's posting that says "I have a teammate".

so I figured I would put out only the first two letter so that if we are able to prove later in the game that townies are always teammates with townies my partner and I would be able to confirm each other, me by presenting the first two letter, and him by providing the rest of the letters.

Doesn't work. For one, it would break the game for the town. For two, it's impossible to prove without all of them dying (or being confirmed by other means, but that tends to be limited anyway), which invalidates the process. What is the point of confirming someone who's already confirmed? For three, everyone has a teammate. By definition. Because that's how Formula One works.

Everyone who has even the tiniest bit of knowledge about F1 can fill in the letters. The amount of possible roles is extremely limited.

[discordian algorithm]

I think every townie has a responsibility to try to break the game for the town. Hello, that is called "winning". Unfortunately I don't even have the tiniest bit of knowledge about F1, I thought the names were fictional.

[discordian algorithm]

Well as i'm at -1, i think it is wise to character claim.

I am Jensen Button.

This is the post where I

thought

SPAG claimed to have a teammate. My mistake.

[Zindaras]

I think every townie has a responsibility to try to break the game for the town. Hello, that is called "winning".

Games are not easily broken. In this case, not only would it have been impossible (as, as I said, it's impossible to prove that all townies have teammates, and no scumbags have), it would also entail a mass claim, which doesn't help us.

Unfortunately I don't even have the tiniest bit of knowledge about F1, I thought the names were fictional.

Mein Gott.

You read the opening post. You read the flavour. You read the thread, supposedly, which means you had to have read this post. You mean you have joined a game which was clearly themed, you read the posts, which made it even clearer that it was themed, and yet you didn't realize it was themed and you didn't bother doing even the slightest bit of research about the theme? You claimed your role name while you had absolutely no idea who you were talking about? You thought you could break the game with flavour you didn't know

anything

about?

*puts his head in his hands*

[Polter]

How many ways is Pulsewidth scum, let me count the ways...

One, it's nice how you don't bother reading up on SPAG's side of the argument, instead claiming that a statement was in random voting stage, which obvoiusly makes it a random vote. Who the hell knows what is a random vote or not? I could make a random vote right now if I wanted to, just roll a die and stick with it. Or, I could make a deadset vote in the random stage, just based on one post from someone else.

Two, your main reason for going against DA is all due to alts and other games. Get over yourself. If that's why you're going to be aggressive to another player, then you should really consider a different route.



I believe DA to be innocent, though the fact that blatantly denying having an alt on the first page WAS a little rude.
Why are you all FoSing on DA? Because she was busy trying to figure out how many games SPAG has played. She said she was dead set on getting SPAG to -1, and he didn't even bother giving her any answers.

Guess what? You all brought SPAG to -1. In fact, you all LYNCHED him. Well, now that DA has gotten what she wanted and then some, you have all accomplished the whim of what was called an "artifical reasoning."

I'm not really sure why you would all suspect DA of being scum when 6 other people joined in the grand lynching of her target. It was YOUR ACTIONS, not hers, that killed SPAG. Great to know, eh?

[pulsewidth]

One, it's nice how you don't bother reading up on SPAG's side of the argument, instead claiming that a statement was in random voting stage, which obvoiusly makes it a random vote. Who the hell knows what is a random vote or not? I could make a random vote right now if I wanted to, just roll a die and stick with it. Or, I could make a deadset vote in the random stage, just based on one post from someone else.

I voted SPAG for many reasons, the business with his Kaleidoscope accusations being the last straw. He uses a statement that was obviously a joke as a means of building a case against Kaleidoscope. That is not a valid argument. The fact that you are using this to promote a case against me is ludicrous.

Two, your main reason for going against DA is all due to alts and other games. Get over yourself. If that's why you're going to be aggressive to another player, then you should really consider a different route.

False. I criticized DA for using metagaming as a sole means for attacking someone. Also, "get over yourself": Statements like this do not enhance or help your arguments.

I believe DA to be innocent, though the fact that blatantly denying having an alt on the first page WAS a little rude.

Why are you so sure that DA is innocent?

Why are you all FoSing on DA? Because she was busy trying to figure out how many games SPAG has played. She said she was dead set on getting SPAG to -1, and he didn't even bother giving her any answers.

Uh, people are FoS'ing DA because of her role name clues. Why are you so concerned that DA has two FoS's on her and NO votes?

Guess what? You all brought SPAG to -1. In fact, you all LYNCHED him. Well, now that DA has gotten what she wanted and then some, you have all accomplished the whim of what was called an "artifical reasoning."

Placing blame on everyone and absolving DA of her role in the lynch. Why are you protecting her?

I'm not really sure why you would all suspect DA of being scum when 6 other people joined in the grand lynching of her target. It was YOUR ACTIONS, not hers, that killed SPAG. Great to know, eh?

If people suspected DA of being scum, she would have several votes on her by now. The two people who FoS'ed her mentioned NOTHING about her role in the SPAG lynch. You are really overreacting over nothing. I believe this all adds up to you being newbscum who is trying way too hard to protect a scumbuddy.

Vote: Polter

[Polter]

[quote="JDodge"]

Vote Count:

SPAG - 4 (discordian algorithm, SirWario, IH, deadscilent)
discordian algorithm - 4 (Zindaras, pulsewidth, SPAG, Paradoxombie)
deadscilent - 2 (Polter, KaleiÐoscøpe)
Sir Wario - 1 (ChaosOmega)
ChaosOmega - 1 (ojpower)

Not voting (0): No one

7 to lynch.

Sir Wario has informed me that he will be away from Thursday-Sunday.

[/quote]

[Polter]

If people suspected DA of being scum, she would have several votes on her by now.

[Polter]

Should I even point out the numerous FoS's on her the whole game?

[pulsewidth]

Vote counts reset at the start of a new day. As of right now, DA has no votes on her. There has been no accusations pointed at her for role in the SPAG lynch since Day 2 started. So why did you feel the need to come out and defend her on those points, when noone was attacking her on those points?

[Polter]

Nice to know that Day One doesn't exist to you.

Or did you just want me to forget that your buddies killed off Paradoxombie?

[discordian algorithm]

unvote vote:pulsewidth

Is Polter buddying up to me? Possibly, but my magic 8-ball says "NOT LIKELY"

I assumed that the Formula 1 theme had something to do with a crazy mechanic. If the theme was a tv show or movie I was not familiar with, I wouldn't have signed up. Now I feel like a liability to the town. Damn.

[pulsewidth]

Nice to know that Day One doesn't exist to you.

Nice way to avoid answering my question. Again:

So why did you feel the need to come out and defend her on those points, when noone was attacking her on those points?

I could understand if Day 2 started and people came out attacking DA over her "put SPAG at lynch -1" comments, but NO ONE DID. You are preemptively defending DA over an issue that hasn't even been brought up yet. Not only are you obviously covering for a scumbuddy, you're not even doing a very good job of it

unvote vote:pulsewidth Is Polter buddying up to me? Possibly, but my magic 8-ball says "NOT LIKELY"

Aaaand, here comes DA backing up Polter. It's really obvious at this point.

[Polter]

Nice to know that Day One doesn't exist to you.

Nice way to avoid answering my question.

No, actually I believe that covers it. Wake the fuck up, and read it again. There are 6 pages of Day One. That's right, not Two that you should be looking at, but One.

[Polter]

I could understand if Day 2 started and people came out attacking DA over her "put SPAG at lynch -1" comments, but NO ONE DID. You are preemptively defending DA over an issue that hasn't even been brought up yet. Not only are you obviously covering for a scumbuddy, you're not even doing a very good job of it

If I'm not doing a good job of it, then maybe that means she's not my scumbuddy. Hmm, maybe there's the slight offchance that MAYBE we both have Mason roles, or MAYBE I have a Cop role. But you wouldn't know until I was dead, would you?

And as for lynch -1, she made the comments, but you made the commitment. You didn't really care for SPAG at that point, so you decided that sending him to the chopping block would be easy.

[pulsewidth]

No, actually I believe that covers it. Wake the fuck up, and read it again. There are 6 pages of Day One. That's right, not Two that you should be looking at, but One.

I read it. You didn't answer my question. Noone is attacking DA over her SPAG lynch comments. Allow me to explain this as you don't seem to be getting the picture. Here are the two posts that have FoS'es RIGHT NOW on DA.

By claiming the first two letters, you actually already claimed your rolename, DA. Everyone with a bit of knowledge can figure that out.

And to be honest, having no leads to do so, warrants a FoS: discordian algorithm

Dissy is clearly King Rabies, partnered to Feminine Maple-Leafs.

This was not a smart move. You might as well have claimed your entire role name and role.

And, personally, it appears you have claimed Masons. Mason Traitors are more likely to push for a Mason claim than regular Masons, so FoS: discordian algorithm.

They don't list DA's SPAG lynch comment as being a reason for their FoS. Noone was talking about that until YOU brought it up. If people were looking to go after DA today based on her SPAG lynch comment, then they would have said so.

If I'm not doing a good job of it, then maybe that means she's not my scumbuddy. Hmm, maybe there's the slight offchance that MAYBE we both have Mason roles, or MAYBE I have a Cop role. But you wouldn't know until I was dead, would you?

The fact that you are doing a bad job of defending DA has no relevance on whether you are her scumbuddy or not. As for your Mason/Cop statement, why even bring that up, unless it's just a poor attempt at rolefishing?

BTW, you still haven't answered my question as to why you think DA is innocent. So please provide us all with some reasons.

And as for lynch -1, she made the comments, but you made the commitment. You didn't really care for SPAG at that point, so you decided that sending him to the chopping block would be easy.

I have repeatedly stated my reasons for voting SPAG. Perhaps you should go back and re-read them.

Anyone else have any comments on this discussion? I'm a little disappointed to see that activity has died down a bit.

Mod

, what's the status on ojpower? He hasn't posted since the 9th.

[SirWario]

I'm gonna have to side with Pulse on this argument. I really don't like polter's agressive play at the moment. Polter claims to have inside info on Disco, suggesting he has a power role. Perhaps thats why he defending her, but its completely unnecessary at the moment. Disco has barely any pressure on her, so why do you vehemently defend her? I also don't like how you think Disco deserves no blame for the SPAG lynch. She was a major advocate of it. You are way too hasty to defend her.

FOS:Polter

Now another things that bothers me. Discordian claims for no reason whatsoever, then she defends Polter by voting for Pulsewidth, who's in a heated debate with Polter. They seemed to have grown quite fond of each other. Her perturbing claim, plus her little thing with Polter grant her a

FOS: Discordian

[Polter]

I'm gonna have to side with Pulse on this argument. I really don't like polter's agressive play at the moment. Polter claims to have inside info on Disco, suggesting he has a power role. Perhaps thats why he defending her, but its completely unnecessary at the moment. Disco has barely any pressure on her, so why do you vehemently defend her? I also don't like how you think Disco deserves no blame for the SPAG lynch. She was a major advocate of it. You are way too hasty to defend her.

FOS:Polter

No, I'm not hasty. I'm stating my argument before things escalate and another person gets lynched due to terrible judgement.
And, I didn't "claim" any roles. I didn't "claim any inside info. I "claimed" the possibility of a role. Don't mix my words.

Now another things that bothers me. Discordian claims for no reason whatsoever, then she defends Polter by voting for Pulsewidth, who's in a heated debate with Polter. They seemed to have grown quite fond of each other. Her perturbing claim, plus her little thing with Polter grant her a

FOS: Discordian

Had I known she was going to do that, I wouldn't have even bothered. Then again, how the hell can someone who is supposedly scum make such a terrible move?

[Polter]

Oh, and SirWario, my only question: For what reasoning were you lurking on Day One? Anything in particular?

[discordian algorithm]

SirWario: I think some players mistake a play that doesn't make sense with a play that makes sense for a scum to make.

Something "clicked" for me this morning. No one is going after ojpower, no one is clammering for his lynch. There were some comments early in the day, but no one really pushed for a wagon on him. That doesn't feel right to me. I think that is ojpower were town at least one of the scum would've started a wagon on him- it would be easy to start and it wouldn't be a dangerous case for a scum to make.

unvote vote:ojpower

I agree that Polter's conviction is unsettling, but pulsewidth would make a far harder target than ojpower. If ojpower is scum, it would make sense for a scummy Polter to attack someone else though, I'm not using it as a tell against Polter, but if ojpower is revealed as scum Polter will be next on my list.

[SirWario]

[quote="JDodge"]

Vote Count:

SPAG - 4 (discordian algorithm, SirWario, IH, deadscilent)
discordian algorithm - 4 (Zindaras, pulsewidth, SPAG, Paradoxombie)
deadscilent - 2 (Polter, KaleiÐoscøpe)
Sir Wario - 1 (ChaosOmega)
ChaosOmega - 1 (ojpower)

Not voting (0): No one

7 to lynch.

Sir Wario has informed me that he will be away from Thursday-Sunday.

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Polter, I went away for three days and when I came back SPAG was already lynched.

[SirWario]

Sorry about that huge font in the last post.

[SirWario]

Oh, and another thing. You didn't seem to say much day 1 either, Polter

[Polter]

Because I was over a friend's house.

[Polter]

I was only checking what reasoning you had.