Mini 472 - Cartman Mafia - Game Over

[ZeekLTK]

Okay what do you guys think is the 12th role? We've identified 11 roles in the game, what's the last role? a third mafia/mason? or something else?

[ryan]

Well if we have a role blocker (allegedly) isn't it possible we also have a mafia roleblocker?

[Off the Mark]

^^^ all those posts just show that I was wrong. Is that honestly why you think I am scummy, because I was wrong? And all my ideas made sense at the time and I think most of the town understood where I was coming from and even agreed with most of my points. At least, there wasn't a lot of arguing about those points at the time, so it seemed people understood/agreed.

You gotta admit Estes's claim and investigation seemed like a huge coincidence. That's the whole reason I didn't trust him! Heck, he could still be scum who decided to claim in order to become a "confirmed" cop. We don't know for a fact that that's not what's going on here. (at this point, I am trusting him though)

[Off the Mark]

I think with all these power roles we probably have 3 mafia + SK, otherwise the game is way unbalanced in town's favor. I wouldn't be surprised if the mafia had extra powers too, like godfather or roleblocker, since the town seems quite powerful.

[Estes]

Dean's thing about music... Estes can you elaborate? Maybe if we can figure out that role it'll help tremendously.

It said I saw music written down, and nothing suspicious. That was all; I just assumed it meant he was a singer/composer/writer or something.

Can anyone who watches South Park figure out a show where Eric has something to do with music?

[ryan]

^^^ all those posts just show that I was wrong. Is that honestly why you think I am scummy, because I was wrong? And all my ideas made sense at the time and I think most of the town understood where I was coming from and even agreed with most of my points. At least, there wasn't a lot of arguing about those points at the time, so it seemed people understood/agreed.

You gotta admit Estes's claim and investigation seemed like a huge coincidence. That's the whole reason I didn't trust him! Heck, he could still be scum who decided to claim in order to become a "confirmed" cop. We don't know for a fact that that's not what's going on here. (at this point, I am trusting him though)

Than don't rip my ass for not believing your claim when you yourself have admitted to not believing others.

[ZeekLTK]

So you think it's 3 mafia then?

Right after I posted that I was thinking "hmmm... the town has a vigilante and there is a SK, so there has to be more than 2 mafia because there is a high chance of one of them dieing at night."

So I'm also thinking 3 mafia... and this is the set up:

3 mafia
1 serial killer
-
2 masons
2 cops (1 sane, 1 insane)
1 doctor
1 vigilante
1 roleblocker
1 miller

If this is the case (and no one has lied about their claims) then the doctor has a huge advantage here because he knows who the remaining mafia/SK is. The only problem is a) do we believe the people who have claimed? and b) how does the doctor let the rest of us know who to go after without revealing himself?

[ryan]

Dean's thing about music... Estes can you elaborate? Maybe if we can figure out that role it'll help tremendously.

It said I saw music written down, and nothing suspicious. That was all; I just assumed it meant he was a singer/composer/writer or something.

Can anyone who watches South Park figure out a show where Eric has something to do with music?

It didn't give you an episode?

[Estes]

^ Just went to wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartman#Music

Like finding a needle in a haystack.

[Off the Mark]

Dean's thing about music... Estes can you elaborate? Maybe if we can figure out that role it'll help tremendously.

It said I saw music written down, and nothing suspicious. That was all; I just assumed it meant he was a singer/composer/writer or something.

Can anyone who watches South Park figure out a show where Eric has something to do with music?

The two dead masons were related to music, maybe Dean was a mason too. No specific episodes are coming to mind though, where Eric writes music, but there is the one with the brown note where the boys edit the national kids' band music to try to make the whole world crap their pants.

[Estes]

It didn't give you an episode?

No, I didn't get one on Sorin either. I guess that would make it too easy to find the Godfather.

[ZeekLTK]

Also why was ChaosOmega "Stan"? Does that mean the mafia are NOT Cartmen? That the other two are Kyle and Kenny?

[ryan]

Also why was ChaosOmega "Stan"? Does that mean the mafia are NOT Cartmen? That the other two are Kyle and Kenny?

Shit Zeek, that's an interesting point, I didn't even think for a second why Chaos wasn't a Cartman character. So it's possible Kyle, Kenny and Stan are the guilty ones?

[Off the Mark]

So you think it's 3 mafia then?

Right after I posted that I was thinking "hmmm... the town has a vigilante and there is a SK, so there has to be more than 2 mafia because there is a high chance of one of them dieing at night."

So I'm also thinking 3 mafia... and this is the set up:

3 mafia
1 serial killer
-
2 masons
2 cops (1 sane, 1 insane)
1 doctor
1 vigilante
1 roleblocker
1 miller

If this is the case (and no one has lied about their claims) then the doctor has a huge advantage here because he knows who the remaining mafia/SK is. The only problem is a) do we believe the people who have claimed? and b) how does the doctor let the rest of us know who to go after without revealing himself?

Gatorguy claimed vanilla. Maybe we don't have a doc. Also your idea about the doc knowing who is scum assumes that none of the claimers are lying.

[Estes]

Someone PM Stewie and ask if he meant to put that.

[ryan]

We don't know Sorin's role do we? Just that he was town, what if he was the doc?

[Off the Mark]

That makes sense - mafia are non-Cartman characters. Not sure how it helps us though, so I don't know why ryan is saying "good point!"

[Off the Mark]

We don't know Sorin's role do we? Just that he was town, what if he was the doc?

He was a vig

[Off the Mark]

Also your idea about the doc knowing who is scum assumes that none of the claimers are lying.

Duh, you mentioned that. I am an idiot.

[ryan]

That makes sense - mafia are non-Cartman characters. Not sure how it helps us though, so I don't know why ryan is saying "good point!"

Because my non paying attention friend, if that's the case it should be easier to find the liars when it comes to claims IF it's true that the scum is non-Cartman.

[Off the Mark]

We only have 3 unclaimed players, we may as well mass-claim.

[Estes]

When people get "sent to jail" who could be "killing" them? I'm not familiar with all the possible mafia scum roles.

[ryan]

When people get "sent to jail" who could be "killing" them? I'm not familiar with all the possible mafia scum roles.

I think Stewie said earlier that people who are "sent to jail" cannot return and are basically dead.

[Estes]

I know. What mafiascum role has the ability to do that?

[Off the Mark]

That makes sense - mafia are non-Cartman characters. Not sure how it helps us though, so I don't know why ryan is saying "good point!"

Because my non paying attention friend, if that's the case it should be easier to find the liars when it comes to claims IF it's true that the scum is non-Cartman.

I never expected Mafia Cartman to claim their actual episodes, I thought that'd be too obvious. They'll need to make one up either way, whether they are "evil" Cartman or non-Cartman.