NY 187: Pariah's Mafia [/FIN]

[Prolapsed Brain]

UNVOTE:

[Shazam]

How is rc against me?

Are you bleeping kidding me dragonspawn?

But more importantly, you should note that I didn't specifically say RC was against you.

[RadiantCowbells]

Don't really agree is putting it mildly.

If I post my tell here everyone will start being conscious of it, and will make it useless.

[TheCow]

UNVOTE:

I just got home so I'm tired. I've been reading the thread, so I'll probably give my input sometime in the evening today.

[davesaz]

VOTE: Prolapsed Brain
Giving in to pressure seems rather scummy.

[Klingoncelt]

UNVOTE:

Will re-read the thread later tonight.

BBT looks Town for now.

[Garmr]

Kling are you town or scum

[Boonskiies]

Hey boon you still alive buddy?

I'm here. I'll catch up in a bit.

[dragonspawn]

How is rc against me?

Are you bleeping kidding me dragonspawn?

But more importantly, you should note that I didn't specifically say RC was against you.

Could have fooled me.

[RadiantCowbells]

What if Dragonspawn and Boon are masons again?

[Garmr]

I thought of that but boon said he would hammer D's if he has to a mason wouldn't do that

[RadiantCowbells]

Yeah, I was making a joke based off of what someone in my neighbour hood said.

Don't worry about it.

[Prolapsed Brain]

I hate you so much right now.

[Garmr]

???

[Garmr]

So I have to ask you this, why do you feel the need to construct straw men to attack? In fact, why are you attacking in the first place? Your pushing the wagon pretty hard for someone who isn't voting for it.

You're pushing my wagon at the same time as questioning those on the wagon not voting for any of us. Who exactly are you scum reading? Because right now it looks like you are trying to look like you are scum hunting without actually putting your money where your mouth is

This is good.

Also, this brings up a good point. BBT, do you have reads on any other people right now besides Dragon?

Yes, I do! Dragon is probably town. Oh no, wait, that's still about Dragon. Ummm...can I phone a friend?

I think serious votes on the wagon are bad.

Are you planning on doing anything about those serious votes that you dislike?

Yes.

Oh your so lucky to have a at rc gets a town read

[Klingoncelt]

Kling are you town or scum

Town.

How about you?

[Klingoncelt]

Yeah, I was making a joke based off of what someone in my neighbour hood said.

You have a 'hood?

[Garmr]

You don't choose the hood life hood life chooses you

[dragonspawn]

Dare I ask who is in this hood? Since it's been outted.

No boon and I aren't best friends anymore. And garmr and I aren't masons anymore.

But boon is still awesome and I think I can read him much better now for the experience.

[Aeronaut]

Um I might possible be a tad drunk so I may totally claim my double bulletproof cop-mason role in this post

You don't think I have provided reasons for my reversal of read on Dragon?

Also, a read and a vote onto a wagon are two different things. PB went against the wagon, stating he was ignoring it and I should feel bad for pushing it. Then he joins the wagon I'm pushing and doesn't explain the reversal in his read.

I explained the reversal. PB did not explain his reversal. There is a huge difference in both of our actions.

Can you vote PB now?

I don't really know why I should vote PB besides that thing he did which you also did.

Spreading awareness of a tell decreases it's value.

I'd rather keep this one for myself.

You would rather weasel out of explaining anything at all.

That is, inherrently, anti town at best.

VOTE: RC

Share what you have or don't bother posting it.

What the fuck did you just say to me you little shit?

I'll have you know I'm the top scumhunter in the entire MafiaScum and have over 300 confirmed scum lynches.

I'm extensively trained in VCA and have conducted numerous secret raids on the Werewolves.

You are nothing to me but another

hated townie

.

I did something like this to crumb a hated role once are you crumbing one?

Oh jeeze don't be asking for people's roles

@kitty - like what? 'Coz that wasn't it. Who is your no1 lynch rn?

@Gamr, can you explain about your comment on associative before a flip?

Already answered that in my post right after maybe read my iso

Also if you say things like this when people ask you for clarifications then I'm going to policy lynch you.

Do you still stand by your first reason for voting dragonspawn? Or has his defensive-reactions added to your scum-read of him?

Both.

This kind of defensiveness is hard to read because it's at the very least anti-town.

Why is defensiveness anti-town?

This question is such a blatant misrep that I almost want to vote you. You chopped off the context, and even in that one sentence you quoted, there is the phrase "this kind" that you just threw out the window with your question. If you are asking why a kind of paranoid defensiveness that causes a player to misread posts and think they're more against him than they really are is anti-town...I think it's pretty obvious. It hurts the town when someone misinterprets what everyone else is saying and gets super defensive about it because it is a) deceptive b) illogical and c) often seen as scummy. In this case, I do see it as scummy, which means it's at least anti-town if he's actually town.

In what way is it a misrep? Sorry, just not getting that.

This question is such a blatant misrep that I almost want to vote you. You chopped off the context, and even in that one sentence you quoted, there is the phrase "this kind" that you just threw out the window with your question. If you are asking why a kind of paranoid defensiveness that causes a player to misread posts and think they're more against him than they really are is anti-town...I think it's pretty obvious. It hurts the town when someone misinterprets what everyone else is saying and gets super defensive about it because it is a) deceptive b) illogical and c) often seen as scummy. In this case, I do see it as scummy, which means it's at least anti-town if he's actually town.

Wanna fight?

Being defensive is not scummy, nor is it anti-town. For you to suggest such things is absurd. People interpret posts differently...that's kind of the point of online Mafia. If everyone interpreted posts in the same away there would be no discussion. So no, 'misinterpreting' as you put it is not deceptive and it's not illogical and as stated earlier being defensive is not scummy.

Eh, depends on really the situation. Like some kind of defensiveness is natural and makes sense in the context of the ISO of whoever is posting, but other times it seems "off" or unwarrented. People who go around yelling "THAT GUY IS DEFENSIVE HE'S A SCUMBLE" at every person who picks apart their own wagon are silly. However, that's a lot different than noticing someone being overly defensive for not quite a lot of threat, eg what happened earlygame with dragon.

I don't remember dragon spawn being this oblivious in my mason game with him he demonstrated the ability to think I even understood his thought process in my mafia game against him he was logical this feels like a act to play off as dumb

This is the other reason I'm choosing to keep my vote where it is... I feel like Dragon is smart usually and he's just being either naive or obtuse in this game and I can't figure out which. I feel like it's obtuse.

Don't really agree is putting it mildly.

If I post my tell here everyone will start being conscious of it, and will make it useless.

Yea, the observer effect.

VOTE: Prolapsed Brain
Giving in to pressure seems rather scummy.

Where did he give into any pressure? I may be just tired but I guess I missed that happening

Kling are you town or scum

Solid questioning

Yeah, I was making a joke based off of what someone in my neighbour hood said.

Don't worry about it.

Lol I've decided I love playing with you


Sorry for any mispellings / nonsensicle sentences in there. I think I'm sobered up but who the heck knows at this point

Dragon what are your reads right now? You seem to be like voting a hundred times and It's confusing as hell

[Aeronaut]

As long as Garmr isn't a god dam hider again

screw that role

[Aeronaut]

It just makes everyone angry

[Aeronaut]

Read Zor's Holiday Bash for more context on that lovely role

[pisskop]

Bubble

[pisskop]

bauble