NY 187: Pariah's Mafia [/FIN]

[duppin]

If he stated no scum voted on him, he would imply only town voted on him and that makes him fairly suspicious.

No, that doesn't make him suspicious.

I think it does, I don't really care if you do to be honest. If only town voted on him, I definitely think it is worth noting. It does not mean it is something I want to pursue and I'd probably not push on someone only because of that.

But this is so irrelevant, because he said he believes scum votes on him. You complaining about my logic yet again is noted, but please understand that I do not really care whether you agree with me or not and I will not stop using it just because you dislike it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Go read the votecounts in this game

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=61784

and tell me just how much VCA matters.

[duppin]

I am sure you can find games where it did. I don't really see the point though. If you do not think it is worth noting that only town voted on someone, it is fine. I agree (as I clearly stated) that it does not necessarily mean anything, but it could.

But I don't really understand why we are discussing this here seeing as it is not relevant right now. If Dragon had said no and I brought it up, you could've questioned it though.

[pisskop]

Prodding Aeronaut and Thecow

Pedit: Aeronaut is V/LA until Friday

[pisskop]

Votecount 2.03

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Dragonspawn

- (5) Shazam, Radiant Cowbells, Bulbazoor, garmr, duppin

BlueBloodedToffee

- (3) FA_Q2, TheDominator37, Kop

Bulbazoor

- (1) Dragonspawn

Keysoe Söze

- (1) BlueBloodedToffee

kitty Galore

- (1) davesaz

Not Voting:

Boonskiies, Sword Master, Aeronaut, Bulbazoor, Kitty Galore, TheCow, Keysor Söze

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With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
Deadline is 17AUG15, (expired on 2015-08-17 12:00:00)

Aeronaut is V/LA until Friday, 07AUG15
Sword Master is V/LA until xxyy, or a time when I feel his abscence is unacceptable.

[Garmr]

Pisk you got me voting in two places and you spelled my name wrong

corrected. thanks gamr

[TheCow]

Ah, my booty has been prodded. Didn't realize I hadn't posted for so long. Reading and stuff.

[TheDominator37]

Did you just admit to lurking?

[TheDominator37]

I'm pretty confident bbt is mafia. I can provide proof later but it is midnight rn. Do it this morning

[Garmr]

Don't know if I can take post 682 Seriously

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't know if I can take a thing that Dom posts seriously.

[Keyser Söze]

Looking over myk's posts.

Seems like a very odd night kill unless scum read his vig comment to be vig crumb. Which would be dumb because I can't see why a vig would crumb at all. He was tunneling duppin and soze. Though I can't see much reasoning for them.

Do you find BlueBloodedToffee's choice to push/sheep mykonian's two scum-reasons at the start of D2 as scummy or innocent?

[TheDominator37]

Key I think it's null

[Keyser Söze]

Key I think it's null

I wasn't sure on voting BlueBloodedToffee, I have a worry he may just be a townie having a bad game (and acting over-defensive towards people pointing a finger at his D1 behaviour) - scum could be taking advantage of his playstyle:

Finger of suspicion: BlueBloodedToffee

Reasons:
- very quick to push mykonian's two scum-reads (duppin, Keyser Söze) coming into D2, without adding arguments of his own

(non-alignment indicative, bad town)

- pushing Prolapsed Brain's wagon to L-1 (did he scum-read Prolapsed Brain? Did he want a roleclaim or defence from Prolapsed Brain, or did he just want PB at L-1?)

(non-alignment indicative, but bad-town)

- I read his sarcastic/undermining/negative reactions to my posts not only anti-town, but scummy.

(bad-town/scum-alignment indicative)

- BlueBloodedToffee's response to players putting focus on him is to scum-read them (Keyser Söze/Radiant Cowbells) very defensive play.

(non-alignment indicative)

- no attempt to read my posts as coming from a townie, only scum 'trying hard to play the role of Helpful Townie'

(non-alignment indicative: people usually say my playstyle is Mr. Try Hard)

I want to make sure I am not mistaking BlueBloodedToffee's bad attitude on D2 as scum-aligned behaviour.

I'm pretty confident bbt is mafia.

I can provide proof later

but it is midnight rn

[TheDominator37]

You realize I need sleep :p

[RadiantCowbells]

11:01 pm

I'm pretty confident bbt is mafia. I can provide proof later but it is midnight rn. Do it this morning

8:05 am

You realize I need sleep :p

wtf.

[Aeronaut]

Reading up now bitches

[TheDominator37]

11:01 pm

I'm pretty confident bbt is mafia. I can provide proof later but it is midnight rn. Do it this morning

8:05 am

You realize I need sleep :p

wtf.

kool central timezone

[Bulbazoor]

VOTE: Aeronaut
I will explainn this in a second.

[Garmr]

i'm all good for a bbt lynch tbh

[TheDominator37]

Explain your reasons please

[Keyser Söze]

VOTE: BlueBloodedToffee

From what I have seen, don't like his posts.

Need a full catch up, but he is what caught my eye reading through.

Did kop care to check the VC before making this vote...

If I came into the thread a week late, I would personally catch-up first, express my reads and reasons, then make a vote.

IMO, jumping straight into a thread with a vote is a cause for concern

[TheDominator37]

Spoiler: why is bbt scum? Let's look!

Boon, stop.

Dragon looks like a really good wagon. RVS wagons are good, stop slowing it down.

VOTE: BBT because why not.

Because we have a wagon?

Couple more votes on Dragon wagon are needed.

Oh, and Anna is town.

You don't think I have provided reasons for my reversal of read on Dragon?

Also, a read and a vote onto a wagon are two different things. PB went against the wagon, stating he was ignoring it and I should feel bad for pushing it. Then he joins the wagon I'm pushing and doesn't explain the reversal in his read.

I explained the reversal. PB did not explain his reversal. There is a huge difference in both of our actions.

Can you vote PB now?

Anyone who isn't voting by page 17 - you should feel bad about yourself.

Make use of your vote.

RC could be scum as well.

Ok so after these quotes there is no way you could possibly think that bbt has town intentions. He is insulting people off of not voting on the wagon he supports the most at the moment. He has shown no signs of scum hinting at all just randomly pointing his finger and insulting people not voting for him. Here he says he makes reads and them follows up with absolutely nothing. No explainations absolutely nothing. Remember the giant push on the RVS wagon on dragon? He says that wagons like that are good for scum reading but he hasn't posted any results from this as well as explaining his 180 turn on his read on dragon. All of this combined gives me absolutely no reasons to let him live today. And even if you don't think he is scum he should be a candidate for A policy lynch.

[TheDominator37]

Spoiler: Aero part juan or the only one because I'm lazy

Clearly scum.

yea.

VOTE: Dragon

Just as long as you look busy

Although BBT's reason for joining is iffy.

Wagons are good for information and it's a great way to start any game.

Thanks mr. IC!

Anna isn't easy to read because she is still a newb. She could be scum but not willing to just assume so and I see no reason to rush anything.

ummm have you PLAYED a newbie game?

How many tries will it take Dragon to use the right vote tags?

Spoiler:

Through the first half of the day aero did absolutely nothing at all. All he did was these jokey fluff posts. I'm not sure what motivation that would be but I'm leaning towards scum due to the fact that he joined the dragon RVS wagon and then refused to give any reasons what so ever and then switched over to PB once bbt told him to. My read on aeronaut is scum lean. If anyone can give some sort of meta that could help.

fixed for thread safety

[TheDominator37]

Awww spoiler didn't work