Mini 472 - Cartman Mafia - Game Over

[Off the Mark]

Good point, Zeek. No more votes until we hear from J-man or his replacement.

[Off the Mark]

By the way, anyone who's pro-town should be in favor of massclaiming at this point. We only have 2 unclaimed players and they are both likely mafia. They need to claim.

[ryan]

Ah who cares really? With 2 scum left there is little chance that we lose this game.

I am Misbehaving Cartman. I protect players at night. (something to do with Cartman being bad in the beginning of the episode and than turning good at the end? I don't know as I said earlier I don't watch it all the time) Carry on game.

[Off the Mark]

So you are claiming doc, basically? That's interesting because since there was no scum kill and I BLOCKED you, there would need to be yet ANOTHER blocker to prevent the scum kill. Bad claim.

So if you're a doc, who'd you protect and why?

[ryan]

Oh my episode is 1007 (didn't put that above)

[Off the Mark]

and episode #?

[Off the Mark]

heh simulpost

[ryan]

So you are claiming doc, basically? That's interesting because since there was no scum kill and I BLOCKED you, there would need to be yet ANOTHER blocker to prevent the scum kill. Bad claim.

So if you're a doc, who'd you protect and why?

Oh I'm sorry, were you speaking to me? I believe this is what you said earlier

When you defeat? Careful, not sure if the room your in can support your head which seems to be growing. You haven't defeated any point I've made and I've already addressed your mass claim idea. R E A D the thread. I don't think you've had a good point since you said you roleblocked me (which you didn't because I didn't do anything) Bring up something decent scum and I'll think about saying you have a point.

I'm done talking to you.

For the others who are speaking to me, I saved Estes on Night 1. (I wanted to make sure his investigation happened but apparently since I was roleblocked it didn't matter)

[Off the Mark]

A doc safe-claim in a doc-less game makes perfect sense.

Ryan can't have it both ways. We can't both be telling the truth about our roles. He says I roleblocked his doc protect, but this is impossible. There's no way we have a third role who is capable of blocking the scum kill, but we know SOMEONE blocked it.

Either I am lying and ryan blocked it, or he is lying and I blocked it. Whom do you believe? I am willing to be lynched to prove that I am who I say I am. I doubt you will get a similar (sincere) offer from ryan.

[ryan]

WHY is this a doc-less game? Because you say it is? Estes didn't die, so why is it impossible that I protected him? WE don't know know if any kill attempt was blocked unless you tried to kill somebody and it didn't work! Willing to be lynched? How nice and special of you, how about we investigate you or I and go that route? Why are you so willing to lose more players to prove your point?

[Off the Mark]

I meant "If we have a doc-less game, then a safe claim of doc makes perfect sense." It wasn't sarcasm.

[Off the Mark]

Yes, it is possible that you protected Estes and that's why he didn't die, but

only if I am a liar

. I know that I'm not a liar, so I know that's not possible. That's why, for everyone else's benefit, I say lynch me and you'll know with 100% certainty that ryan is scum.

Or you can just lynch him now, either way.

[ryan]

YOU aren't reading what I'm writing! I said IF Estes was killed than I would have been lying. He was my doc save for the night session, plain and simple. Lynching you isn't going to prove anything but whatever your role is will be exposed. Estes lived, what part of that aren't you seeing?

[Off the Mark]

The only possible way Ryan and I could both be pro-town is if scum submitted a no-kill just to mess with us and cause confusion. I don't see any real motive there, though. They couldn't have anticipated that there would be a roleblocker who would be convinced he had found scum as a result of the no-kill. That seems like a longshot.

[Off the Mark]

YOU aren't reading what I'm writing! I said IF Estes was killed than I would have been lying. He was my doc save for the night session, plain and simple. Lynching you isn't going to prove anything but whatever your role is will be exposed. Estes lived, what part of that aren't you seeing?

Yes I am, but you are missing the bigger picture:

1) I blocked you.

2) Scum kill was blocked.

3) How was it blocked? Not by you, due to my block. If you're not scum, then not by me.

4) Therefore you must be scum.

It's pointless discussing with you further, as of course you're not going to admit it, but you cannot avoid that logic. The ONLY possibility is that I am a big fat liar or you are scum.

[ryan]

Because there wasn't a kill the scum was blocked? HOW do we know everyone is telling the truth about their roles? WE don't! That has been my argument for pages upon pages. You are right, I'm not gonna discuss this with you anymore because you are set on one thing and one thing only. This isn't a big game and it's not impossible to believe that the scum

a) Didn't get a kill in

b) Were roleblocked by somebody else

c) Didn't kill anyone in hopes of finding out more info (which by all these stupid claims you've been asking for, they have.)

Do what you have to do, I've claimed my role and so that is that.

[Off the Mark]

a) Didn't get a kill in

Yeah, right.

b) Were roleblocked by somebody else

Who? Is Sorin going to claim some type of blocker role too?

c) Didn't kill anyone in hopes of finding out more info (which by all these stupid claims you've been asking for, they have.)

Scum need to make kills more than they need info.

[Off the Mark]

HOW do we know everyone is telling the truth about their roles?

We don't need to know if everyone is telling the truth to figure this out. All we are concerned about is blocking/protecting roles. And do you expect us to believe that there is a THIRD pro-town blocking role out there, that for some reason has claimed a different pro-town role? I don't think so.

[ryan]

Haven't we already said Gatorguy91 lied about being just "vanilla?"

[Estes]

I'm gonna go send out messages to see if somebody will join our game and tell us what J-man knows.

[ZeekLTK]

Is there anyone else from Utopia on this site? Get them to replace.

[ryan]

Is there anyone else from Utopia on this site? Get them to replace.

Oddjob is on here (booboodafool)

[Off the Mark]

I was just rereading the day2 posts and I couldn't resist sharing this.

2) I'm not a doc but I do have a pro town flavor.

Uh, what? He just claimed doc! Can we lynch this scum now please? Oh, I suppose we should hear from Jman first, but I think we've got this game figured out.

[ryan]

OH for christ sake OtM, should I go back and see if you ever said you weren't a power role but ended up being one? (allegedly) I claimed when the rest of the town claimed. I mean freakin seriously man. I'm more and more interested in lynching you just so I don't have to open this thread and read your........oh whoops, I got slapped on the wrist for saying "naughty things" better stop typing now.

[Gatorguy91]

I was just rereading the day2 posts and I couldn't resist sharing this.

2) I'm not a doc but I do have a pro town flavor.

Uh, what? He just claimed doc! Can we lynch this scum now please? Oh, I suppose we should hear from Jman first, but I think we've got this game figured out.

Ryan has not stated that he was indeed a doctor, just has a protect.

But seriously ryan, wtf.