NY 190: Molla's Large Normal

Luna Fox · Post Post #825 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:34 pm

In post 823, Aj The Epic wrote:we've got two people from the same slot soft-defending performer.

catboi was soft-defending performer, Titus is hard-defending him.

Luna Fox · Post Post #826 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:36 pm

Basically catboi never formed a read on performer slot, while still disagreeing with the wagon.
Titus is stating a Town read on the slot AND defending him.
So imo, Titus defense is a hard-defense.

Could be informed minority idk, i still don't see the reasoning for her defense, IaI at least seems to have some sort of ok reasoning for the defense, but Titus' looks out of place.

Titus · Post Post #827 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:38 pm

In post 824, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 822, Titus wrote:To me, it evidently is. Scum gain killing him by misquoting him.

Uh what? (And i never misquoted him so that's still a far out reasoning)

Fmhpov, you misquoted him and so did someone else.

Misquoting people makes them mislynchable.

You don't have to agree with Performer to see it's what he thinks.

Aj The Epic · Post Post #828 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:42 pm

Here's the thing: Titus admits not to having read ANY of the thread and has this hard town read on Performer no matter what we show him/her.

Titus, point out the misquote then.

More importantly, if it was a misquote, why would performer never point it out? He really went hard on Banana over an accidental misquote (where the tags messed up) and Luna in like RVS. There's no reason he'd suddenly stop.

talah · Post Post #829 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:45 pm

In post 817, Luna Fox wrote:hmm catboi was also soft defending performer, Aj/talah: opinions on this?

That was one of the things hat catboi and I disagreed on and when I questioned him on it 540 and 659 I think his attitude was that Performer was more likely to softclaim under minimal pressure as town (which is also something IaI asserted, although we're talking about completely different "softclaims" in each instance). Catboi was talking about the potential PGO softclaim which I can see wanting to defend, but as we've established, PGO isn't a role that can exist in a Normal setup.

I'd have expected Titus to come in a bit more aggressively as scum but then again I haven't played with her for a long time.

Titus · Post Post #830 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:48 pm

In post 828, Aj The Epic wrote:Here's the thing: Titus admits not to having read ANY of the thread and has this hard town read on Performer no matter what we show him/her.

Titus, point out the misquote then.

More importantly, if it was a misquote, why would performer never point it out? He really went hard on Banana over an accidental misquote (where the tags messed up) and Luna in like RVS. There's no reason he'd suddenly stop.

Wrong I said I won't catch up. I obviously read the page where the mod announced my sub in (unavoidable). I also read posts necessary to answer Luna. I don't do mass catchup.

You haven't shown me anything but a misunderstood townie and you being stubborn.

I don't need to find the misquote to know Performer's posts read genuine.

Titus · Post Post #831 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:50 pm

There can be up to two non-normal roles in a setup. I am not ruling anything out.

@Talah, It's been what, two years right? Gundamn Seed was fun but awkward.

Luna Fox · Post Post #832 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:54 pm

The so called misquote:

In post 95, Performer wrote:
In post 75, Luna Fox wrote:
In post 74, Performer wrote:vote me for my it

tee-hee ^_^ dat typo gave me a smile thanks

In post 74, Performer wrote:So early???

Maybe! I'm actually surprised on banana tried to engage me on it.

Luna you misrepresented what I put..I don't trust you
But I'm glad you got a smile from it....
VOTE: Luna

I still don't see it.

Aj The Epic · Post Post #833 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:56 pm

Well I guess catboi's slot was scum...

I asked you to find it to point them out because you said they existed. Now you refuse. You're basically saying "yeah I know he was misquoted but my ambiguous language affords that you'll never know what was misquoted". You have this hard and fast opinion about performer that you formed off of two posts. You realize this, right? If you've read where you're directed and then from when you replaced in, you formed an unshakable town read on performer that came off of two posts that are absolutely wretched considering the entirety of the game. Afterwards, you were directed to other posts.

Titus · Post Post #834 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:58 pm

Poor quote selection but he's saying you're misrepping his posts as worthless.:/

@Catboi, No. I said he believed they existed, not that I agreed.

My opinion is based on his wagon and what little I have read.

Titus · Post Post #835 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 1:58 pm

Oh and redacted.

VOTE: Catboi

Aj The Epic · Post Post #836 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:00 pm

...what the hell?

Titus · Post Post #837 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:00 pm

VOTE: AJ

My bad.

talah · Post Post #838 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:00 pm

In post 831, Titus wrote:There can be up to two non-normal roles in a setup. I am not ruling anything out.

Well that's... Interesting. Thanks.
I don't think it changes much for me though. I've been running on the assumption that all his crumbs were fake before excluding non-normal roles.

In post 831, Titus wrote:@Talah, It's been what, two years right? Gundamn Seed was fun but awkward.

Yeah it's certainly been a while. I remember in that game you were claiming X-shot Vig as a goon?
(And shot me and openly claimed it even though most folks were townreading me)
:P

--
Just a heads-up as well, it's the weekend here so I'm keeping half an eye on this but have RL stuffs to do as well

Luna Fox · Post Post #839 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:00 pm

In post 835, Titus wrote:Oh and redacted.

VOTE: Catboi

catboi was your predecessor
P-Edit wot

Titus · Post Post #840 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:02 pm

@talah, the shot was gone when I subbed in.

@Luna, meant to vote AJ.

talah · Post Post #841 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:03 pm

Yee-eeeeah, AJ's town btw Titus.

Luna Fox · Post Post #842 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:04 pm

Yeah i noticed.

Aj The Epic · Post Post #843 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:04 pm

In post 827, Titus wrote:Fmhpov
, you misquoted him
and so did someone else.

From my honest point of view is Fmhpov right?

Titus wrote:@Catboi, No. I said he believed they existed, not that I agreed.

So you did NOT say he believed they existed. You said HE WAS misquoted.

Titus · Post Post #844 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:06 pm

Why is AJ town? I just see him saying things untrue (that I agreed there was a misquote) to force through his desired lynch. That doesn't look town at all to me.

Nope fmpov is my point of view. Fmhpov is my view of his POV.

Titus · Post Post #845 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:12 pm

I hate the word honestly in a post. It reads scummy. Like I am honest now self-vouch.

talah · Post Post #846 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:15 pm

I don't have time to do a succinct summary of the first 10-20 pages of the game considering you won't be reading it anyway, but suffice to say he kicked out of RVS and then started scum hunting like a boss. I'm not suspicious of him.

Also if you just had to explain 'fmhpov' to him, is he lying? Or actually presenting an inconsistency correctly?
(Myself I always though fmhpov was 'from my humble point of view', but meh)

Skybird · Post Post #847 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:17 pm

I still don't see how what Luna quoted was a misrep. She quoted exactly what Performer posted, though not all of it. Then she said the typo made her smile. I don't see Luna's post as calling Performer's posts worthless.

Titus · Post Post #848 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:18 pm

@talah, he could be playing dumb but I lack solid evidence he's lying.

The fact he never considered a similar misunderstanding fuels the misquote debate is more telling to me.

Titus · Post Post #849 (ISO) » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:19 pm

In post 847, Skybird wrote:I still don't see how what Luna quoted was a misrep. She quoted exactly what Performer posted, though not all of it. Then she said the typo made her smile. I don't see Luna's post as calling Performer's posts worthless.

I don't see why someone would engage you = your posts are worthless. Pretty clear again to me.