Open 41-Quicklynch Nightless GAME OVER!, before 492

[Paradoxombie]

The DA lynch was too weird with her self-vote, and kaosfere was more justified.

On another note, I really am not liking the way Paradoxombie hammered Kaosfere and simply disappeared. He has now made 3 posts in this game. The first post was a post tentatively suggesting Discordian Algorithm to be scum (for self voting), the second one saying that he understood kaosfere's logic for hammering DA, and the third one being the hammer on Kaosfere. Something doesn't seem right here... (the hammer after understanding Kaosfere's logic for hammering DA part)

And his more recent posts being:

Can the people voting Khelvaster please carefully lay out the reasons for their vote? I don't necessarily suspect them, but if he ends up being a mislynch we're back to nothing to scumhunt but a bandwagon with no reasoning.

Casting doubt on the Khelvaster wagon.

While I see the possibility that they are partners, I don't see why you'd choose to vote IH over Khelv.

Khelv seems significantly more scummy to me.

WTF! Blatant contradiction?

Vote: paradoxombie

Vote: Streeflo

The way he twists my words and attacks me is very scum-like. I also don't like how he votes me so freely. I see votes in this game as being total approval for a lynch considering that you are essentially signing their death warrant if they're town. Is it possible he doesn't realize that this isn't a normal game? Or maybe that is simply his fallback excuse?

[DeathSauce]

IH, by unvoting Khel at L-1 you have pretty much cemented my thoughts that your early vote on him was just an attempt at distancing.

vote:IH

THIS PLACES IH AT LYNCH -1.

^^ Just so no one can

accidentally

hammer.

If IH comes out innocent, I am voting you tomorrow. I asked for someone to unvote me so no opportunistic scum/idiotic townie hammers me.

I know you did, and it strikes me as particularly convenient that it was IH that unvoted you. I was not sure at all that it was significant that you and IH were involved in both lynches, but the fact that you both came out with votes on the other one immediately on Day Three struck me as being suspicious and an attempt at distancing yourselves. Then, when there is a danger that you could be lynched, you posted:

Someone

who is town

needs to unvote me

(emphasis mine), and magically IH unvotes you!

That was the final straw. There was no reason for you to add the phrase "who is town" to that post other than a last-ditch attempt to try to make IH seem more townie.

The fact is that I don't think there is a chance that IH will turn up innocent, and I think we have a pretty good chance at getting a second scummer tomorrow.

[Khelvaster]

I know you did, and it strikes me as particularly convenient that it was IH that unvoted you. I was not sure at all that it was significant that you and IH were involved in both lynches, but the fact that you both came out with votes on the other one immediately on Day Three struck me as being suspicious and an attempt at distancing yourselves. Then, when there is a danger that you could be lynched, you posted:

Someone

who is town

needs to unvote me

(emphasis mine), and magically IH unvotes you!

That was the final straw. There was no reason for you to add the phrase "who is town" to that post other than a last-ditch attempt to try to make IH seem more townie.

The fact is that I don't think there is a chance that IH will turn up innocent, and I think we have a pretty good chance at getting a second scummer tomorrow.

So, let's lynch IH today. He has linked himself to me so well that I really don't have much ability to defend myself. IH is WIFOMing around with me-- he linked us together so well that he has to have gone out of his way to do so. IH is definitely not that bad of a player to do this accidentally. He's trying to get an extra town lynch out of his lynch.

That said, lynching IH today would be the play. I would be glad to see anyone hammer him.

[MCHammer]

WOW! khelv you really wanna get IH lynched!!! If I didn't feel so strongly a/b him myself, I'd just have to instantly switch my vote to you!! However, you can rest assured that, if the IH lynch disappears, or we hit D-3 my next vote is on you.

[JDodge]

Khelvaster is the lynch. Most definitely the lynch.

[IH]

This is getting stupid. = |

[Streeflo]

The way he twists my words and attacks me is very scum-like. I also don't like how he votes me so freely. I see votes in this game as being total approval for a lynch considering that you are essentially signing their death warrant if they're town. Is it possible he doesn't realize that this isn't a normal game? Or maybe that is simply his fallback excuse?

You do have my total approval for lynch. I am signing your death warrant yes, if you wish to be so dramatic.

You have one vote on you. You're at L-3. Why so defensive?

Khelvaster is the lynch. Most definitely the lynch.

Why doesn't someone

vote

khelvaster then?

[ryan]

"Against all Odds" Vote Count

(3) IH (Khelvaster, groinhammer, DeathSauce)
(2) Khelvaster (Jdodge, scmp)
(1) Paradoxombie (Streeflo)
(1) Streeflo (Paradoxombie)

Not Voting: Gatorguy91, Sir Tornado, IH

With 10 Alive it's 4 to Lynch

[MCHammer]

I like where my vote is thank you, it's just that I think khelv is scum

also

& don't really want to come across as a flip-flopper by switching it. I'm not the only person in this game, so I figured if others felt strongly a/b it then there'd be no harm in them voting also.

I've stated my reasons for my vote & if someone would like me to explain my reasoning in greater depth; tell me what it is you have a problem with & I'll do my best to clarify.

[IH]

The people who are suspicious of me, could you please state your reasons as such?

If you think it's because I was on both wagons, would you please point out how my reasons were invalid?

[DeathSauce]

IH, read my post #126 above. It summarizes the basis of my suspicions.

[IH]

Though you voted us before that transpired.

I would rather you answer my second question as well.

[DeathSauce]

Though you voted us before that transpired.

That is a flat out LIE!

Post 104

Anyway, with scmp's vote putting Khel at L-1 it will be interesting and perhaps informative to see if IH's vote stays there.

Post 108

first of all

unvote

I'm unwilling to let a lynch happen again atm

Post 111

IH, by unvoting Khel at L-1 you have pretty much cemented my thoughts that your early vote on him was just an attempt at distancing.

vote:IH

My vote was not on you until after you unvoted Khelvaster, lying scum.

[MCHammer]

IH if you look at my post 3&4, that’s where&why I start to get suspicious, then in my post 6 that I made I said:

I feel like IH is almost bullying here & this, as far as I can see, is WIFOM. I agreed with the lynch on kaosfere, but not for the same reasons & I think IH is just trying to muddle things by first being involved on the votes for both DA & kaosfere, & then telling people that we should fear a quicklynch.

Which is why I’ve voted for you – and then DS made post 126 which made me smile b/c I was thinking a similar as I read through that section.

Being on both wagons would’ve been much more of a moot point if you hadn’t then made a quick vote on khelv.

@ Gatorguy91 – what’s yr. opinion over this whole IH/khelv thing that’s under discussion here???

[MCHammer]

Seeing as I've now gone to the trouble of repeating myself, would you now like to tell me what, if anything, else you are having a problem with...seeing as I'm

not

voting for you on the pure basis of you being on both lynches?

[Gatorguy91]

It's Difficult to understand this whole arguement, but i think deathsauce is being a little hard on IH. At this point i think either could be scum, but i am not sure.

FoS: IH, FoS: DS, FoS: Khev.

[Khelvaster]

Deathsauce isn't being hard--LAL is a sound mantra to go by.

[IH]

Excuse me, you didn't vote me, but you did FoS me, and expressed heavy suspicion against me.

[ryan]

"Let's keep the discussion moving" Vote Count

(3) IH (Khelvaster, groinhammer, DeathSauce)
(2) Khelvaster (Jdodge, scmp)
(1) Paradoxombie (Streeflo)
(1) Streeflo (Paradoxombie)

Not Voting: Gatorguy91, Sir Tornado, IH

With 10 Alive it's 4 to Lynch

[Paradoxombie]

Deathsauce is quite hasty to slap a scum label on IH

[Gatorguy91]

Do you guys think that there's a possibility that Khelv and Ih are both scum?

[JDodge]

Do you guys think that there's a possibility that Khelv and Ih are both scum?

Yes, but I think the case is significantly weaker on IH if Khelv is town. Hence why we should lynch Khelv today.

[DeathSauce]

Do you guys think that there's a possibility that Khelv and Ih are both scum?

Do you guys think that it's a coincidence that Gatorguy tends to show up late in votecounts and throw out multiple FoS's?

Gatorguy you are the absolute definition of "active lurking", why are you so hesitant to cast a vote? You and scmp are very high on my suspicion list at the moment.

[Sir Tornado]

I feel like IH is almost bullying here & this, as far as I can see, is WIFOM. I agreed with the lynch on kaosfere, but not for the same reasons & I think IH is just trying to muddle things by first being involved on the votes for both DA & kaosfere, & then telling people that we should fear a quicklynch.

I actually agree with IH on this one, we

should

fear quick lynches.

Voting IH just because of his being involved in both the lynches doesn't seem right... I don't think he meant to get DA lynched, and I totally approve Kaosfere's lynch.

I, however, agree that IH voting after Khelv said

"Someone who is town needs to unvote"

does look scummy. That unvote, however fits in IH's stand as opposition on quick lynches.

[JDodge]

Would you agree that the case on IH is much weaker if Khelv is town?