Open Countdown! Mini 487! GAME OVER!

[Mgm]

On you. But I fail to see how that is relevant.
You asked when the deadline was, so I told you.
Let's talk about the people who are stalling by not voting AT ALL.

[curiouskarmadog]

On you. But I fail to see how that is relevant.
You asked when the deadline was, so I told you.
Let's talk about the people who are stalling by not voting AT ALL.

ahhh, but a majority is needed to have a lynch at all...so if someone votes you...then lets say someone vote mirth...it is still a no lynch..

pretty much someone needs to put forth a case..

I have plenty of times against Kinetic...I feel like this is the smartest lynch right now.

[Mirth]

Let's talk about the people who are stalling by not voting AT ALL.

Who do you mean by that, MGM? Only people not voting right now are Raffles and Xyzzy. I think Raffles said he would vote for Hazzel. Which just leaves Xyzzy who has had one post which only said that he was reading and that CKD was suspicious but failed to explain why he thought so. (My prediction is that Xyzzy will be the SK's next kill if the SK follows his previous pattern. The SK, may, of course, attempt targeting players he thinks are mafia, which will, I think, finally give us some information about him.

As to an actual lynch, as I've said, my vote will swing one of three ways. Kinetic, CKD, or Hazzel, as I think two of the three are scum.

At the moment they each have 2 votes, if I am not mistaken. If I were to move my vote, CKD or Hazzel would have 3. I will only move my vote if it will actually help with a lynch, as I suspect the three pretty much equally.

[Raffles]

vote: HazQ

[Kinetic]

Alright, it looks like something on CKD is not going to happen today.

Unvote;Vote:HQ

That should put him at -1, so he should be hammered before the end of the day Sat. I might not be around before then so I need to vote now so we don't mistakenly miss another lynch.

[Mirth]

I am willing to vote Hazzel, I'm just going to wait until tomorrow evening before doing so if nobody beats me to it. Don't want to give the SK any extra time.

[Kinetic]

Mirth: I already addressed this, the SK doesn't get any "extra time" if we lynch early. If its already decided at this point then it doesn't matter what we do tomorrow unless we completely change our minds. Thats why I tried to see if we could do anything else before I settled on HQ.

At this point I don't think anything will happen. All that will happen is you lynch now is you will reset the SK's timer for day kill. And theoretically, depending on how long he takes to day kill his next victim after lynch we will have a little more than a week from the time the lynch is finalized before we must lynch again.

At this point everyone should understand we need to lynch faster. After today I want everyone coming back ready, because we need to try and lynch about once a week after this or we have a high chance of losing no matter WHO we lynch.

[Mirth]

I have to disagree with you. We reset his clock and lose a day of conversation in the meantime.

[Kinetic]

But we are still arguing the same points now... That day time wise is... meh... Honestly I'd like to know HQ's alignment so I can start thinking about what it means. I'm pretty sure he is scum, but I'd like to know if I was right or not. Its a rather important point which is going to be major in the coming week.

[Mirth]

I would like Hazzel to comment.

[Mgm]

I'd prefer a CKD lynch, but if that doesn't happen, I'll drop a vote on HazzelQ.

pretty much someone needs to put forth a case..

I have plenty of times against Kinetic...I feel like this is the smartest lynch right now.

I already put forth a case, otherwise I wouldn't have moved my vote.

[Mgm]

Ah heck.

Unvote; Vote: HQ

[Kinetic]

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[Mirth]

So I'm guessing we wait for the mod now...

[Mgm]

Why the heck should be wait? We can use the extra time to discuss.
What if the mod turns up tomorrow afternoon. That would be at least 12 hours wasted.

[Mirth]

Discussion would be good if it can be sparked. I still would really like to hear something from Hazzel before the mod officially declares him dead. I would also probably like to hear a suspicion list from everyone, since one of us will also be joining Hazzel in the land of the dead when the mod appears.

here is mine:

CKD - i think he is mafia. the arguments with kinetic make me think this.
Kinetic - i think he is mafia (or possibly the SK), but my theory may change depending on what Hazzel comes back as. i don't like most of his game play.
MGM - think there is a possibility of MGM being the SK based on comments about leaving the SK alive for now to hunt the mafia. While it may help I think it isnt very reasonable to rely on the benevelance of the SK and then hope to catch him.
Raffles - i do not think he is mafia, and i doubt he is the SK. i don't think he is mafia, mainly because i think other people are. the other has to do with metagaming, but i'm not putting very much stock in it.
Heather - i don't know what to think. i just wish she'd contribute more. can't get a read.
Stewie - i do not think he is mafia. (my opinion of Stewie and Raffles may changed based on what Hazzel is) he hasn't said anything that i find suspicious, though i would like more opinion from him.
Xyzzy - i do not like the virtual lack of posting one bit. and have no opinion.

[Mgm]

While it may help I think it isnt very reasonable to rely on the benevelance of the SK and then hope to catch him.

It would be in the SK's best interest to kill the mafia, because if the mafia gains a majority, the SK's chances of winning, or even surviving will be very slim indeed.

[Mirth]

It would, but it does not stop the SK from killing. He just needs to make sure he isn't left alone with two mafia members at end game, which, regardless of who he kills tonight, he has a pretty good chance of avoiding. As long as he isn't the mafia's only choice to vote off, he still wins. Therefore while killing mafia is beneficial to him, he does not automatically lose by missing once or twice. It is also easier to hide as a one player entity than as a team. The SK has a vote that can swing wherever. The mafia doesn't.

[Mirth]

EBWOP

: As long as he isn't the mafia's only choice to vote off, he still

could win.

[curiouskarmadog]

Discussion would be good if it can be sparked. I still would really like to hear something from Hazzel before the mod officially declares him dead. I would also probably like to hear a suspicion list from everyone, since one of us will also be joining Hazzel in the land of the dead when the mod appears.

here is mine:

CKD - i think he is mafia. the arguments with kinetic make me think this.
Kinetic - i think he is mafia (or possibly the SK), but my theory may change depending on what Hazzel comes back as. i don't like most of his game play.

well I cant say I understand why you think I am scummy, but at least can you at least pop off Kinetic first? And if the SK takes my bait and kills me (and I come out town)..what will you think then?

[Mirth]

Where my vote goes tomorrow depends on what Hazzel turns up as. If Hazzel is town, then I think Kinetic is most likely scum. Asking for me to target him first, though, doesn't help your case.

[Kinetic]

I'm waiting for HQ's alignment before I think about what happens next honestly.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Final Votecount Day 1:
VC:
5 HazzelQ(Kinetic, MGM, Stewie HeatherLou, Raffles)
1 MGM ( HazzelQ)
2 Kinetic(CuriousKarmaDog, Mirth)

With 5 votes, HazzelQ was LYNCHED!

He was a member of the Mafia!

And with that, the Serial Killer pulls out a really big knife, and cuts CuriousKarmaDog into Tiny Pieces!

With 7 alive, it will take 4 votes to lynch!

[Kinetic]

What alignment was CKD???

[Mirth]

The front page says that CKD was a townie. There are two things about this that I don't like. One is obviously the fact that we have a dead townie. The second is the that SK took CKD up on his offer. This means one of two things: the SK thought that CKD was mafia or the SK was just being mean. I'm going to go with the first option, since it seems like more sound strategy, and CKD was acting kind of scummy. (I know I was pretty convinced he was mafia). I'm going to

vote:Kinetic

and
current FOS: Xyzzy

My explanations as follows: Kinetic and CKD were at each others throats. I was not happy with how either of them played, and was under the impression they were partners (which they obviously aren't). My theory was that of Hazzel, CKD, and Kinetic, at least two were mafia. I don't think Hazzel and Kinetic are partners, but I'm still suspicious of Kinetic. If it wasn't distancing, why go so far out of his way to attack CKD?

Why I'm FOSing Xyzzy: he has one post. Ninja before him also has one post. They both say they'll post later but they never do. The SK made a point to target inactive players, yet Xyzzy/Ninja is still alive. While it could be a case of random selection of inactive players followed by a kill on someone who the SK thought it scummy, I know both of these theories are WIFOM. I would like to hear from Xyzzy.

Mod can you please prod Xyzzy?

because I'd really like to hear what he has to say in regards to pretty much everything, but mostly my theory.

And also MGM, are you willing to share what you didn't feel like sharing yet? Because I'm still quite curious about that.