Mafia 61: No Theme - Game over!
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Battle Mage Jester
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I want to hear from TCS and MoS, and really everyone who didnt believe me about MoS being scum. lolShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Battle Mage Jester
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The Central Scrutinizer Mafia Scum
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LFBProd Townie
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LFBProd Townie
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BM, you can take it as a compliment that I was actually using your suspicions as the basis for who to investigate. Once I saw that Kison had been playing us, I began to look back at the people who I hadn't even thought about. I had picked MoS the night I died unfortunately, but at least I took down Kison.-
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Battle Mage Jester
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Thats not the response i was hoping for. I was hoping for more of a 'now i realise that you aren't TOTALLY shit at scumhunting, i might pay more heed to you in the future'.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Wow, that's incredible. acfan has got to be the worst scum ever. :\
Sorry I didn't believe you, BM, but, well, I have reason to.
Crazy that Rand made up that result. Wow.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%-
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Kelly Chen Open-Minded
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The original setup:
5 Mafia
1 Serial Killer
2 Doctors
2 Roleblockers
1 Vigilante
2 Gunsmiths
2 Trackers
2 Criminologists
6 Townspeople
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In response to my finding this to be somewhat insane, AndrewS demoted three power roles to backups and chucked two townies. I at least told him to make the townie pm public, and not tell the backups what they were until necessary. I'm not sure he was open to cutting much more...
Looks like MOS did pretty well despite this.-
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Seol Logical Rampage
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Patience, respect will come in time. You can't just demand it.Battle Mage wrote:
Thats not the response i was hoping for. I was hoping for more of a 'now i realise that you aren't TOTALLY shit at scumhunting, i might pay more heed to you in the future'.The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Wow, that's incredible. acfan has got to be the worst scum ever. :\
Sorry I didn't believe you, BM, but, well, I have reason to.
Crazy that Rand made up that result. Wow.
Also, sounding right often seems to be more useful than being right...[i]The hungry maw of Twilight snaps, but shall not have its fill,
Until one man hangs by his neck, by half this curs'd town's will[/i]-
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Skruffs Pantsman
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Kison .GIFted
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I was baffled when he did that. He really did help MoS to make it as far as he did, though.theopor_COD wrote:I will say MoS's bus of AC1983 was classic but we probably should have twigged that when he announced his role of serial killer catcher he'd have had no way of investigating AC as mafia.
Scum team was not that wonderful. With Lalm practically committing suicide day one, to ac1983fan suiciding from MoS's fake investigation claim, we kind of got screwed there.
MoS did very well to have made it as far as he did, however.
What made you choose me, out of curiosity?LFBProd wrote:BM, you can take it as a compliment that I was actually using your suspicions as the basis for who to investigate. Once I saw that Kison had been playing us, I began to look back at the people who I hadn't even thought about. I had picked MoS the night I died unfortunately, but at least I took down Kison.-
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Jalyn Goon
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I...
Wow.
Bm-you told me so. I'd have had massive problems lynching MoS even on this last day. BM has been the most suspicious to me for two or three days and I STILL don't understand that MoS/ac1983fan lynch thing. (again, that all made sense if _MoS is mafia, but what the heck was ac1983fan thinking?!?)
I'd like to consider what scummy we can nominate Patrick for for saving this game.-
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Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
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Wow, I hate this setup so much. Patrick can tell you how many times I complained to him about the number of power roles. 5 person mafia out of 23, plus 1 SK. That's just over 25% of the game as scum (most balanced games have about 30%, unless there are screwy mechanics). Throw in the fact that only 4 of the other 17 had no abilities, and we were screwed from the beginning. Kison played a great game, considering that Lalm and Lowell are fucking retarded. Lowell didn't even try to win the game, and I am banning him from any game that I mod from now on. acfan's thing was completely unplanned. Kison and I decided we would bus him, but we didn't tell him. Skruffs set me up, and I spiked it. Little did I know that acfan would receive it that way. People kept saying that I could have planned this with acfan, but that's retarded. The person that started the entire fake cop thing wasSkruffs, a protown tracker. Anyway, yea. This setup was bonkers. We didn't have a chance, and all the power roles forced me to sacrifice my teammates (although I didn't know Lalm was my teammate D1, keeping with my tradition of forgetting my scumbuddies). If I hadn't been quicklynched, I was going to try and confuse things a bit, but I didn't even know night was over, because we usually have like 72 hour nights.
I'm not going to give kudos to any of the protown players, because the massive amounts of power roles saved the game for you. I had to worry about misdirecting the doc in order to kill the gunsmith, while hoping that the vig didn't kill me, and then also hope that the roleblocker and tracker didn't find me either. And that was just the last few days of the game.Permanent V/LA.-
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Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
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Lalmtreasteek Goon
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I don't deserve any medals but I tried to plant confusion, I thought MOS would value that at least that much.
I echo Kison that "Scum team was not that wonderful." MOS is the only one I don't have criticism for. But if acfan's suicide was deliberately to make MOS look good, I respect that because it almost worked for him.-
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LFBProd Townie
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I wanted to make sure you weren't just playing me for a fool, and that I could at least trust you and your judgment. Imagine my surprise when you came up as holding gun. After that I thought that maybe you were the vig or something, but then you claimed gunsmith, and I knew I had you.Kison wrote:
What made you choose me, out of curiosity?LFBProd wrote:BM, you can take it as a compliment that I was actually using your suspicions as the basis for who to investigate. Once I saw that Kison had been playing us, I began to look back at the people who I hadn't even thought about. I had picked MoS the night I died unfortunately, but at least I took down Kison.-
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Skruffs Pantsman
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Lowell Jack of All Trades
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I agree with you that the set-up was unbalanced, but I'm not sure what I could have done when it was down to the two of us to turn things around.Mastermind of Sin wrote:Wow, I hate this setup so much. Patrick can tell you how many times I complained to him about the number of power roles. 5 person mafia out of 23, plus 1 SK. That's just over 25% of the game as scum (most balanced games have about 30%, unless there are screwy mechanics). Throw in the fact that only 4 of the other 17 had no abilities, and we were screwed from the beginning. Kison played a great game, considering that Lalm and Lowell are fucking retarded. Lowell didn't even try to win the game, and I am banning him from any game that I mod from now on. acfan's thing was completely unplanned. Kison and I decided we would bus him, but we didn't tell him. Skruffs set me up, and I spiked it. Little did I know that acfan would receive it that way. People kept saying that I could have planned this with acfan, but that's retarded. The person that started the entire fake cop thing wasSkruffs, a protown tracker. Anyway, yea. This setup was bonkers. We didn't have a chance, and all the power roles forced me to sacrifice my teammates (although I didn't know Lalm was my teammate D1, keeping with my tradition of forgetting my scumbuddies). If I hadn't been quicklynched, I was going to try and confuse things a bit, but I didn't even know night was over, because we usually have like 72 hour nights.
I'm not going to give kudos to any of the protown players, because the massive amounts of power roles saved the game for you. I had to worry about misdirecting the doc in order to kill the gunsmith, while hoping that the vig didn't kill me, and then also hope that the roleblocker and tracker didn't find me either. And that was just the last few days of the game.
M'eh, I agree I was lazy, but honestly? I've played much worse...
Anyway, I'll miss our long, romantic walks on the beach. I'm sorry it had to end this way.-
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Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
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Skruffs, I had no choice but to bus my partners. Lalm I didn't really have a hand in lynching, other than placing a vote. Acfan exploded on his own, so I finished it off. Kison got caught by a power role, and Lowell hadn't done shit all game, so I'm surprised I even managed to get scotmany lynched before Lowell.Permanent V/LA.-
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Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
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Skruffs Pantsman
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Kison .GIFted
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CrashTextDummie Mafia Scum
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Not exactly a spectacular game. Well done at the end though, town.[i]Mgm laughed nervously, his cheeks flushing in the faintest of blushes. "Patrick... I only wanted to be with you... that's why I put the game to night, so Glork would get killed."[/i] - the heartwarming conclusion of Face to Face Mafia-
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Mr Stoofer Less than scum
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