In post 368, Davsto wrote:given that gameplay appeared to be unlynchable, my guess is that they wanted to get rid of him via nightkill.
In post 373, Expedience wrote:You're implying that you think gameplay is town when you say that you thought scum would want to nightkill him, why do you believe this?
Because there was no kill last night so likely a Doc protect? And I could see why scum would want to kill a lynchproof. At least, until I remembered that Royal Saint is Double Voter and a much more likely kill target.
I'm a little surprised to see so many people making assumptions about who the missing NK target was. That kind of talk has potential to help scum by giving them insight on which players might get protection.
In reply to the question I was asked, I see both ARS and gameplay as weak scum reads, but the chance of them being scum together is very remote.
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In post 379, davesaz wrote:I'm a little surprised to see so many people making assumptions about who the missing NK target was. That kind of talk has potential to help scum by giving them insight on which players might get protection.
Stating townreads pretty much does the same thing. That was not what I meant to ask Davsto anyway, it was ambiguous.
In post 379, davesaz wrote:In reply to the question I was asked, I see both ARS and gameplay as weak scum reads, but the chance of them being scum together is very remote.
Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."
In post 379, davesaz wrote:I'm a little surprised to see so many people making assumptions about who the missing NK target was. That kind of talk has potential to help scum by giving them insight on which players might get protection.
In reply to the question I was asked, I see both ARS and gameplay as weak scum reads, but the chance of them being scum together is very remote.
So far I have been the only one to propose that I was the NK target. That gives scum 0 insight as I outed myself d1 to get a lynch.
Then if we are light who are strong scum reads? And if you think we are not scum together who do you think could be our partner? Granted me as scum is already wrong but asking for the sake of discussion.
Also I am willing to bet scum are reading me as scum without reason. For all the people "suspecting" me not one is stating a reason with any depth. I shit you not the most detailed reason is "I don't like their posts". ...Scum don't like my posts. And if something saved me last night then they'd try to push me as a candidate but I am so townie the tattoo artist can't find a place to give me a townie stamp because I am already covered.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
And now we can compare his flip to the multitudes trying to lynch somebody else
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop. Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
hiplop, gameplay506, Scorpious and The Silver Bard are being prodded. They have 24 hours to respond but for gameplay. Given this is his second prod, he has six hours.
In post 360, Expedience wrote:
So if I'm hearing you correctly, what you're trying to say is not that the double vote makes ARS scum, but just that it doesn't make him 100% completely confirmed town. Are you currently scumreading ARS?
I don't think that I had closely read 355 at the point in time I posted 359. I p-edited the response to the diversification comment because it caught my eye on preview. ARS's comments about Titus's "mod-meta" have me rethinking the assumption that the double voter role is more likely to be scum in this setup. I need to re-read other stuff.
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1. What's your current stance on gameplay? Cause you've went from scum to town to "dunno". Please decide. Are you willing to join his wagon or not? Why?
2. Since Ranger's still your main scumread, why aren't you trying to gain more supporters on this wagon? Are you satisfied with not having impact on the game?
Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!
- You are not confirmed town. Scum could just as easily have two votes.
- gameplay is probably town. His play day one makes much more sense from a townie trying to confirm himself (as stupid as it is) by spending his lynchproof by baiting by playing anti-town than a scum wasting his lynchproof. If I were lynchproof and scum I would just keep flying under the radar and post just enoguh not to get noticed. gameplay baited and baited and baited. I don't think it is likely that he is scum.
-Klingoncelt can finally speak. She can now be figured out like the rest. I feel that if the postrestriction was a fake the scumteam would have something planned for day 2 more than what Klingoncelt got. Leaning town.
- gameplay is probably town. His play day one makes much more sense from a townie trying to confirm himself (as stupid as it is) by spending his lynchproof by baiting by playing anti-town than a scum wasting his lynchproof.
I'm sorry but this is simply not true. It's straight-up scummy to make town waste a whole day just because you wanna "confirm" yourself and don't wanna put any effort in playing. Not speaking of lowering your chances of winning when you potentially reach LyLo as "conf town".
Why'd the clown drive over the cup?
He wanted to crack him up!
- gameplay is probably town. His play day one makes much more sense from a townie trying to confirm himself (as stupid as it is) by spending his lynchproof by baiting by playing anti-town than a scum wasting his lynchproof.
I'm sorry but this is simply not true. It's straight-up scummy to make town waste a whole day just because you wanna "confirm" yourself and don't wanna put any effort in playing. Not speaking of lowering your chances of winning when you potentially reach LyLo as "conf town".
But why would he play this way as scum? With a lynchproof. He should do everything in his power to stay out of trouble for as long as possible then. It could be gamewinning if he made it a couple of days without getting lynched off. Lurking as scum is a risk to take. But with lynchproof I cannot see why any scum would do it. And also the continued I'll post later posts seems like he just begs to get lynched.
I am not saying that it is protown to do it this way. But I am saying that I think it would make more sense for town to do it than for scum.