Open 42 - Friends and Enemies - (Game Over) before 495

[Crub]

Let's get this random bandwagon really rolling

vote:YB

[Crub]

OMGUS!

unvote;vote Jex

For being scum

[Crub]

OMGUS!

unvote;vote Jex

For being scum

Well, my vote had been justified randomness in order to get a reaction, and this was quite an interesting one. I think it's interesting that your retaliation went unnoticed until Lemming's post. I'm keeping my vote on you because I don't really understand the YB bandwagon and think at least one scum joined in on it. In my eyes, you are the most likely to be that scum so far. You have contributed very little, and your OMGUS vote back at me makes me wonder.

My vote on YB was randomly pushing the Bandwagon against YB. I personaly don't see why Shanba finds YB scummy but I thought a bit of pressure might prompt YB into posting more than "I don't find it funny" obviously not. Also with this game having Mason's I think there are a whole lot of different possibilities regarding a bandwagon, and whether or not scum is voting on it. My OMGUS response was jokeish, I was trying to make the point I found your reasoning in your vote on me as valid as the reasoning I gave in my vote on you.

unvote

Let me re-read and see if I can make sense of what emp has to say.

[Crub]

Well I'm guessing I know at least 2 maybe all 3 of the Mason's.

vote: Sir T

[Crub]

The last thing I note is a weird and useless statement by Crub.

Hmm maybe I should have said ... I have seen a connection between 2 or maybe 3 pro-town leaning players but I do not want to bring specific attention to what exactly? More of a statement to say I think the mason's need to be more careful.

[Crub]

Oops more I wanted to respond to.

I also note a bandwagon on YB for no reason at all, probably to start discussion except it didn’t really start any discussion. I also don’t like Crub’s first post, just jumping on the wagon without making any other comments.

Yes of course to start discussion

Crub makes his second post, and he’s trying to draw us back into the random voting stage instead of trying to add something useful as a replacement.

It wasn't random ... it was an actual OMGUS as in Oh My God your craplogic sucks ... as I explained later on.

Sir T is actually advocating a YB lynch on Page 3 – wow. Because of previous games he has played with him. I would rather wait and see what YB has to say in this game first, or have him replaced.

As you know mate you can't just choose to have someone replaced because you disagree with their bad playstyle. Check out Open 29 there's a link on my wiki page for the type of detrimental town play YB is capable of. (Not that I'm advocating lynching YB because of it ... just that I can empathise with Sir T over it.)

[Crub]

Personally, I think Crub is getting off a little too easy in this game. I find it interesting that the group wants to lynch a lurker who's said nothing, but has let some of these posts from crub, who isn't super active, just slip under the radar.

Just my thoughts for now.

Thats nice from someone making their third non random post ... you know what they say about people in glass houses ...

[Crub]

Welcome Chaos

[Crub]

Also, I didn't like the support you gave to Sir Tornado in regards to his YogurtBandit policy lynch. While I'm on the subject,

FOS: Sir Tornado

. I agree that it's hard to read him, and he does need to post more, but you were pushing for a lynch very early. Even if he is scum, let him talk a bit first.

I didn't give him support ... I just said I could see where he was coming from. YB can be very detrimental to town as town.

[Crub]

Crub: Adds no suspicions at all except for a vote at Sir T. I can't tell why this vote was placed. He didn't talk Sir T out of policy lynching, rather "can empathise with Sir T over it". Then he shrugs off Jex's comment, instead of trying to answer.

FoS: Crub

Jex has got a bone to pick with me because I random bandwagon'ed someone to L-2 during the random voting stage, and then OMGUS'ed her for voting me for it

And she says I was being opportunistic and lurking :0

What more do you want me to say?

Get some more votes on me so you can lynch Simenon tomorrow when I turn up town

unvote, vote simenon

[Crub]

Lets put all our eggs in one basket so that when I do turn up town, you all look scummy for pushing me for my random votes

Short-sighted determination and refusal to even consider that I am not scum = losing formula for town. (If your town and voting me that is If your scum and voting me go ahead )

[Crub]

Crub = scum.

And, he tried to scum link me early on in the game in his opinion about YB bandwagon. Jex seems to do more or less the same thing in post 157.

The difference between you and me is when I turn up town my case against you and simenon = win

[Crub]

Unvote

I somehow missed the Jex and CO votes on Crub.

Why are you voting Crub?

It boils down to me random voting YB to L-2 and then OMGUS'ing Jex when she made a big deal out of it.

[Crub]

He wants to kill lemming

Yup. But only after we kill Crub.

It's a pity that it'll be you getting lynched for your un-explained bandwagoning

[Crub]

He wants to kill lemming

Yup. But only after we kill Crub.

It's a pity that it'll be you getting lynched for your un-explained bandwagoning

Seriously? Do you really want to die?

Simenon may have unexplained votes, but Crub has had the lamest responses. All he does is say, "shame you'll have to die when I turn up town" and other such similar statements. He wreaks of scum.

Jex! What is your case on me?

You didn't like that fact that I L-2'd someone for no reason but random. If you can't get past the fact that I did that and therefore think I'm scum how am I supposed to defend myself to that. All I'm saying is, Yes I made a random L-2 vote, theres nothing I can to say to take it back if you won't give up on it, I don't mind dieing in the hopes that town will see sense and lynch the easy bandwagon'ers like Simenon tomorrow.

2 things can happen :
a) you accept that I did what I did and we move on.
b) I get lynched, and hopefully you can examine my bandwagon tomorrow.

In response to your question :
I do not mind dieing safe in the knowledge that maybe the rest of town, is actually paying attention to who is jumping on the easy bandwagon, so we get a good scum lynch tomorrow.

[Crub]

Besides, I felt it could draw opportunistic scum.

It did ... you voted

[Crub]

If Crub does turn up town, it's his fault for acting so scummy.

And who's fault is it for being myopic and failing to consider the state of play if I'm town?

In my opinion the case on me is weak. If it was strong and I actually had something to defend myself against, I'd defend myself.

Considering you think I've acted so scummy, care to outline a case?

[Crub]

Shanba, voting sammich is :badvoting:. Vote Crub or lemming please.

Do you think you might be useful at all this game?

[Crub]

Wth?
I think there's a bandwagon on me beginning to form.
Opportunistic scum, take notice.

Nice observation.

[Crub]

Wth?
I think there's a bandwagon on me beginning to form.
Opportunistic scum, take notice.

Nice observation.

Are you quoting this for truth? Because it is pure appeal to emotion. Not to mention, no one has even voted him since he stated it.

No I'm quoting you for truth

[Crub]

So we're killing crub today?

Only if you're scum

[Crub]

So we're killing crub today?

Only if you're scum

Or if you don't start getting useful...

vote Sammich

usefulPostCount++

[Crub]

btw Shanba and Simenon obvmason day 1 you guys sucksor