Blitz 5: Netherspite's Blitz SORM Mafia [Game Over]

[Professor Bozo]

i think ranger is jsut lying right now

for this to be true the follwoing must be true
A) we have a bus driver (hint its not goverment role so it cant be ranger)
B) the scums tried to kill ranger

i think both are false right now

pedit: rangers a she, but i think shes jsut scum caught right now so she trying a jester ploy to see how much she can do. if we really want to think its jester we could no lynch and you execute it

[Ranger]

acutaly if we has a bus driver at this point there would of been feedback of it

Wait for every player to check in before making that claim next time.

I have a night action. I used it on Fro99er. The mod told me my target was Ranger. Thus, I was busdriven with Fro99er; scum tried to kill me.

[Professor Bozo]

acutaly if we has a bus driver at this point there would of been feedback of it

Wait for every player to check in before making that claim next time.

I have a night action. I used it on Fro99er. The mod told me my target was Ranger. Thus, I was busdriven with Fro99er; scum tried to kill me.

i never claimed to be bus driven if thats what your saying, im jsut stating that bus driver will give feedback.

what is your role cus i mean your narrowed town to ML at this point

[Ranger]

cirier is confirmed role

Confirmed role, but not confirmed alignment. Check the mafia role list again. There is a mafia role with the

exact

same abilities as a town crier.

Zymf could be scum, so do NOT clear him prematurely.

[farside22]

ranger are you claiming bus driver?

I'm thinking maybe a jester.

so you think that dwlee...is doing something and that ranger is a jester?

Sorry I realized I'm not being clear.

The bus driver claim made no sense because ranger claimed government.
The claim also just seems weird and I had to laugh at the idea of anyone targeting ranger.
My thought was it was so bad maybe a jester hoping to get lynched.
But the claim from yakko means all 3rd parties are accounted for.
So now my brain is looking at ranger and thinking no way this dude is town

[Professor Bozo]

mafia has no role that can talk at night like a crier the only mimic of it is juudge if you want to be more spcific on the role your speaking of show me and i will gladly show you how its wrong

[Ranger]

ranger are you claiming bus driver?

No, but my action

was

redirected. Onto myself. I targeted Fro99er. I don't see me being redirected back onto myself as being that likely. I see the possibility of me and Fro99er being switched as incredibly likely,

especially

given that Fro99er died.

It was Hippy Love I believe who said it themselves, but if not it was you: what kind of scumteam would be

stupid

enough to kill a benevolent third party? Exactly--they wouldn't. They'd have extreme interest, however, in eliminating someone with potentially-accurate reads. Like me.

[farside22]

ranger are you claiming bus driver?

No, but my action

was

redirected. Onto myself. I targeted Fro99er. I don't see me being redirected back onto myself as being that likely. I see the possibility of me and Fro99er being switched as incredibly likely,

especially

given that Fro99er died.

It was Hippy Love I believe who said it themselves, but if not it was you: what kind of scumteam would be

stupid

enough to kill a benevolent third party? Exactly--they wouldn't. They'd have extreme interest, however, in eliminating someone with potentially-accurate reads. Like me.

Hippy/idiot: you do know the biggest flaw here with rangers claim right?

[Ranger]

what is your role cus i mean your narrowed town to ML at this point

I am in fact the mason leader, which is very,

very

obvious given my D1 play.

Many, many,

many

posts of Hippy Love's made me think that they were attempting to claim mason leader, when by my role PM, explicitly, there can be only one. When they said they were not claiming government, I backed down.

Last night, I targeted Fro99er, figuring that no matter what, it was a win. Him getting converted from Amnesiac? Becomes town and sees the notes I posted in case I died during the night. Him choosing to be cult? I kill him. Him choosing to be a serial killer? I still get that feedback.

mafia has no role that can talk at night like a crier

Hmm, I could have sworn I saw one, but apparently, I was wrong.

Zymf is town, then.

[Ranger]

Forgot to add: I was told, explicitly, at daystart that I failed to recruit Ranger. Which is how I came to this conclusion.

[farside22]

Town Mason

Spoiler:

Welcome, PlayerName. You are a Town Mason Leader along with your fellow Town Masons, PlayerName and PlayerName.

Abilities:
Factional communication: During the night phase you may talk with your partners here [Private topic link].
Conversion immunity: You cannot be converted to the Cultist.
Mason recruitment: Every night you can PM me the name of another player to attempt to recruit him into Town Mason.

The recruitment will only succeed if the target player is a Town Citizen. If the target player is a member of the Cult, you will kill him instead.

If the target player is a member of Mafia, he will discover who you are (you will not be notified about it). You are limited to 3 Mason recruitments. If recruitment attempt results in a kill of a member of the Cult, it will count towards recruitment limit. In the end of the night phase you will receive a PM from me containing the result of the recruitment in a clear and unambiguous way.
Unique role: There can be only one Town Mason Leader in the game at any time.

I bolded the important part on why I find the claim by ranger, bull shit.

[Ranger]

{MarioManiac4, Zymf}
{ForWhomTheJellyRolls, Smithereens}
{Yakko}
{Firebringer, farside22}
{Hippy Love, Idiot Savant}
{Dwlee, Jeanne}. This is where I stand at the moment.

[Ranger]

I bolded the important part on why I find the claim by ranger, bull shit.

I fail to see the point in a mason recruit that can't recruit any player in the game. I assumed that I could recruit any non-evil (mafia, 3ps like serial killer) player.

[Professor Bozo]

ty far

but jsut for emapthis

Mason recruitment: Every night you can PM me the name of another player to attempt to recruit him into Town Mason. The recruitment will only succeed if the target player is a Town Citizen

pedit: i need to go away atm due to this

jsut.....

i dunno this really stuck me

[farside22]

VOTE: ranger

[Ranger]

VOTE: ranger

Consider this: Yakko claims to have been turned into a town citizen, no?

Well, then. So long as I'm not redirected/busdriven again...and as long as scum don't have a roleblocker...I can.

Quite literally.

Confirm myself as town by tomorrow, simply by successfully recruiting Yakko.

Yes, failure's possible, but the chance of success means that there should not be votes on me. ESPECIALLY given that I was rather explicit about my role yesterday.
And if you don't believe me about the result I got, just ask the mod what would happen if a mason leader was redirected recruiting onto themselves. He'll tell you, since this is an open setup.

[Hippy Love]

VOTE: ranger

[Ranger]

I fail to see the point in a mason recruit that can't recruit any player in the game.

Just for emphasis.

Consider this.
One government role confirmed. A second about to be confirmed. Me as a third.
For there to be a town citizen would require two of three random slots to be government. This is why I called BS on Aronis's claim. This is also why I assumed I could recruit any town-or-benevolent3p-player. Because, I repeat, again...what is the point of having a mason recruitment if there can quite literally be zero players to recruit?

Mason recruiters in every place I've seen them have worked so that they will succeed against any town-or-neutral party except evil ones like serial killers. That's my experience with the role. Why

wouldn't

I recruit Fro99er?

[Ranger]

Yakko claims to have been turned into a town citizen, no? Well, then. So long as I'm not redirected/busdriven again...and as long as scum don't have a roleblocker...

I can. Quite literally. Confirm myself as town by tomorrow

, simply by successfully recruiting Yakko.

Yes, failure's possible, but the chance of success means that there should not be votes on me. ESPECIALLY given that

I was rather explicit about my role yesterday

.
And if you don't believe me about the result I got,

just ask the mod what would happen if a mason leader was redirected recruiting onto themselves

. He'll tell you, since this is an open setup.

Seriously.

Ask.
The.
Mod.

Mod: If a mason leader has their recruitment redirected back onto themselves, what result will they be given?

The mod will tell you. "The mason leader will be told their recruitment of playername, in this case themselves, has failed." Or some variant thereof.

[Ranger]

The drive to lynch me is incredibly scum-driven, since the scum

know

I'm telling the truth. They want to make up their missed kill by lynching me, before I can become confirmed town and also before my reads are proven to be valid.

[Professor Bozo]

the feedback should be "you failed to recurit your target" or "you successfully recruited XXX"

[Hippy Love]

The drive to lynch me is incredibly scum-driven, since the scum

know

I'm telling the truth. They want to make up their missed kill by lynching me, before I can become confirmed town and also before my reads are proven to be valid.

why wld you try to mason an indie over a conftown who was likely to be protected with at least mebbe 1 conftown in play?

I think you are just scum.

[Ranger]

Did you ask the mod?
Because I know my result.

It said I failed to recruit me into the masonry.

That's what it said.

[Ranger]

why wld you try to mason an indie over a conftown who was likely to be protected with at least mebbe 1 conftown in play?

Because I thought that Mario, as confirmed town, would be nightkilled by the scum. So, instead, I targeted the

other

person topping my town list.

[farside22]

I'm still waiting for ranger to explain how zwf isn't confirmed town and why he targetted frogger knowing what the role says