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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:51 am

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In post 121, Ricastle wrote:Fair. I think really that everyone should have their metaphorical vote on you simply because you act not in a way that seems natural, but a way that is likeable and agreeable, yet is also at the same level of play which can be well faked. Resultantly I do not feel safe putting you above null at best.

I think Jackal warrants looking at beyond lurking because he's been pushing the Fire wagon without ever being on it. CN has also only disappeared since he got called out last page.


Since you seem to be expecting a response, I'll oblige, but I don't have much to say. You make a fair point. I wish I could be doing more, but with half the player list actively lurking, There's not much to go on. It's quite possible, as you said, that we've not caught any scum and they're hiding in the lurkers.

Starting to question whether I should pick a lurker to lynch via coin flip.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:05 am

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In post 124, Ricastle wrote:Is it not equally foolish to ignore when somebody is making excuses for another player for no apparent reason?

I have a reason. Fire is town.
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:00 am

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You state that as an absolute. Scumslip much?

VOTE: CN
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:42 am

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In post 122, Chaotic Neutrality wrote:Holiday stuff, unexpected deadlines, etc. I've been a little negligent across the board and meatworld.

I wouldn't say I was called out. More like accused of being buddys, which at this stage of the game with no flips, is a ridiculous argument that doesn't merit response. Sarcasm doesn't come across naturally on the internet, but I'll often point out buddying and announce I've found the scumteam for shits and grins because I'm making fun of people who do that seriously, like you.

Fire is very clearly town this game. I've never played with Rob but going based on reactions etc. I don't think he's town. I'm reading you, Ricastle, as newbtown more than scum at the moment. I've been scumpartners with Ranger and this isn't her scumgame. I will always read Soren as scum, someone else is going to have to tell me what kind of game he's playing. I don't like Dave's play this far.

Those are my reads as of late.

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You didn't say anything about Rob, unless I missed it. Care to share what your case is?
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:44 am

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NM, I missed it, though "based on reactions" is fairly weak.

What's the strong reason for reading Fire as town?
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:14 am

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In post 127, Jackal711 wrote:You state that as an absolute. Scumslip much?

Hi you must be new here

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I don't like Rob's play. This is my only reason. It's better than all your reasons.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:22 am

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Oh hey Dave I missed your last question

Fire has pro-town behaviors, reaction hunting, etc. He's a pretty easy mislynch so most of the people attacking him over his play style are either going to be people who haven't played with him before or scum going for easy prey.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:34 am

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What if some of the people have seen him as both town and scum, and it doesn't look like his town to them?
Would you place a higher value on actions in game or on detecting the subtle differences his frequent opponents can detect?
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:09 am

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Fire wasn't reaction hunting. That was sarcasm, as has been pointed out. Any other pro-town behaviours you've seen?

I won't be here for deadline, so unless anyone would like to organise an alternative lynch with me now then I'm just going to vote Fire and be done with it.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:30 pm

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I'm willing to vote CN, Soren or Jackal today based on what's in the game thread.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:59 pm

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Welp, here goes nothin. Good luck guys.

VOTE: CN
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:18 pm

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Scum quick wagon much guys?
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:32 pm

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CN is an awful wagon. Ranger is best, Fire is better.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:35 pm

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Ranger has no votes, and I doubt we'll get the people to make that quickwagon a thing, so I'm placing Fire on L-1.

VOTE: Fire

Fire, claim.


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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:19 pm

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Rob13 wrote:What is the alternative you propose? Lynch blindly in the lurkers?
Not
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But yes, lynching a lurker, strategically, is my best alternative.

One particular eye-catcher is Jackall.

Chaotic Neutrality wrote:I've been scumpartners with Ranger and this isn't her scumgame.
I want you to explain this.
I also want Rob to comment on what he thinks of me this game in comparison to what he knows of me from his modding experience.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:20 pm

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Jackal711 wrote:You state that as an absolute. Scumslip much?
Yeah, I think I want to lynch this.
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:27 pm

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I've not got any unique meta or tells to offer on you. You play pretty much to site meta.

I don't think it's viable to create a wagon from scratch 7 hours out. We'd have no time to build the wagon, get a claim, and consider it.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:31 pm

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Rob13 wrote:I don't think it's viable to create a wagon from scratch 7 hours out. We'd have no time to build the wagon, get a claim, and consider it.
This is true regardless. Firebringer lynch, Chaos lynch, Jackal lynch, we're not getting time to consider the claim.

But I do think we can get a lynch in that time-frame.
Jackal's probably our best bet for scum.
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:47 pm

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Fire needs a prod (as does our mod, who's over the limit on times between VCs).

I don't believe I can do justice to analyzing Jackal before I go to bed in around 10 minutes, so my vote is where it is for the moment. I'd much rather we lynch you, frankly, but I don't believe a vote there is productive for the same reason a vote on Jackal wouldn't be. There's no existing support there and we have no time. We've managed 6 pages in >3.5 days. What makes you think people are going to pop out of the woodwork after 10PM EST to complete a quicklynch? I have no trust in that, and Jackal's null for me right now anyway.

Ricastle deserves serious scum points in Day 2 for swapping off a wagon that's near lynch slightly before deadline and going to sleep immediately. Serious attempt to derail.
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:48 pm

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Oh, Ranger, you swapped off Fire too. Why are you chasing a no lynch?
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:13 pm

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In post 138, Rob14 wrote:Ranger has no votes, and I doubt we'll get the people to make that quickwagon a thing, so I'm placing Fire on L-1.

VOTE: Fire

Fire, claim.


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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:15 pm

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Reads right now:

Rob13 definitely feels town, maybe too try hard town, Strongest town.
Chaotic Neutrality though I don't like him buddying me.
Absinthe he is more null.
Davesaz I have always had har time reading him.
Ranger way too fast to give reads it doesn't even seem like try hard town it seems like trying to give impression of a player actually participating but not really, notice how reads list merges with people who agree with rangers opinion? Yeah thats a scum tell.
Soren all he has done is call me scum and continue to push me. This is how he plays scum.

Thats about it. Lets lynch Soren then Ranger.
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:22 pm

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Fire, will you start a Ranger wagon with me? I don't have enough time to investigate Soren's meta, but if we can make a Ranger lynch happen, I'm all for it.

VOTE: Ranger

I'll try to stay up for a couple hours, but this needs to happen fast. I've been awake for a long time and will eventually crash.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:26 pm

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VOTE: Ranger

Ranger or Soren works for me.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:28 pm

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Unofficial VC:

Chaotic Neutrality: absinthe, Jackal711, Ricastle (3)
Ranger: Rob13, Firebringer (2)
Firebringer: Soren, davesaz (2)
Rob13: Ricastle, CN (2)
Jackal711: Ranger (1)

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