Mafia 63: Wolves - Game over!

[Skruffs]

Did you guess pooky?
Cuz you'd'be right.
Since i've betrayed some sort of fellowship, or something, and am already accused of treason, i may as well twist the proverbial knife a bit more.

Your turn, pooks!
Jordan, something about the way you are trying to direct the order of things makes me want to buck your system.

[JordanA24]

Well, if you want to make someone who a claimed cop has an innocent on claim before someone who you're pretty certain is scum, that's your choice I guess.

[Mr. Flay]

New Page, New Vote Count

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3: Dragons of Summer (PookyTheMagicalBear, JordanA24, ~N9V~)

1: theopor_COD (Dragons of Summer)
1:

Jingolaw

bobbyplump (Talitha)
1: PookyTheMagicalBear (Skruffs)

5: Not Voting (bobbyplump, Quagmire, Shanba, cicero, theopor_COD)

6 to lynch!

[Quagmire]

I'm about 1/3rd of the way done reading, so don't think I've forgotten about anything. I'll pipe in with thoughts when done.

[~N9V~]

I;d perfer to not have cicero and Pooky claim. For obvious reasons.

[bobbyplump]

My analysis: 21-now

Theo states definitely that Niempie is scum. I don't like people being so sure.

OK...just got to N9V's role claim. Pooks isn't scum. K. Why didn't he list both investigations?

Jordan encourages cop not to reveal second investigation. Why? I don't understand that. It could have narrowed the potential scum field.

Yikes...Skruffs looks scummier and scummier (I'm writing this on page 25...too many things to mention).

Ancalagon (cicero) not scum...K.

I've hated everything Skruffs has said today. I see we're in the middle of a mass claim. If we weren't, I'd be voting for him. (still on page 26)

Just a thought: the way Skruffs and Jordan are bickering, it almost seems orchestrated.

Theo is posting in generalities and not doing much Day 3 until Talitha beats him over the head about it.

I officially hate pooky in this game. His ONLY saving grace is N9V's claim.

I'm all for a mass claim. I won't comment on the claims yet. So I'll post my pre-mass-role claim thoughts here in a second.

[bobbyplump]

My analysis and my wolf list:

~N9V~

- I have several problems with his role claim. One, at first he just lists one investigation. Second, he then lists BM (who was killed) as his third investigation. Third, he claims innocent on Pooky, who is playing terribly (i.e. not helping the town AT ALL...I've counted one good post from him all game).

However, the claim hasn't been countered yet, so it's hard to argue it. Maybe the mass claim thing will clear this up.

cicero - Cleared by N9V and seems town.

Dragons of Summer - Both he and his predecessor have seemed scummy.

JordanA24 - Honestly, I like his play (except encouraging N9V to keep investigations secret). The only other thing that gives me pause is his constant bickering with Skruffs today. As I said before, it almost seems orchestrated.

Quagmire (replaced Miztef , who replaced Coron) - Nothing against you, Quag, but Miztef set off my wolfdar. You'll make the list.

PookyTheMagicalBear - Innocent unless N9V is disproved.

theopor_COD - Was certain about Niempie, and was wrong. And really seemed to mail it in today until Talitha got on his case.

Talitha - Has been pretty town the whole game, except when she was pretty bummed about the pace of the game. Then she got a little loose. I don't think scum would have come up with the mass claim idea.

Skruffs - Everything about him today has seemed wolfy.

Shanba - No complaints against him/her (??)

The List:

Likely Wolf:

1. Skruffs
2. Dragons

Wouldn't be Surprised:

3. Quagmire
4. Theo
5. Jordan

Will Totally Change is N9V is Lying:

6. N9V
7. Pooky

I'd Be Shocked:

8. cicero
9. Talitha
10. Shanba

Is really attractive:

11. bobbyplump

[Mr. Flay]

It's been asked a couple of times by PM, so I'll clarify in thread:

I have the results of all Night Actions in the spreadsheet Phoebus gave me, but I do *not* have the original role PMs

, so whatever flavor is in those is gone for replacements. Since you shouldn't be quoting role PMs particularly anyway, this shouldn't make a big difference, but I thought everyone should know the score.

[Talitha]

Pooky? How you feel about claiming now?.. you've been fingered.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm a villager.

DoS, Skruffs, Talitha are scum.

1 2 3 lynch.

we figure rest out afterwards.

You can go now TallyLuv

[DragonsofSummer]

Hey Bobby... interesting analysis... in that you don't actually say anything at all either. You give no real reason for most of the people on your scum list to be there, and have just repeated things other people have said before to clear people.

[Talitha]

My role is Wolfsbane, so Skruffs is looking suspect.

Bobby next please.

[Skruffs]

Wow, pooks jumped Right in line behind bobby. Thanks, Pooks.

Jordan - I had forgotten Pooky was cleared. Obviously I would not have wasted my request on someone who was cleared.

[bobbyplump]

DoS, I had 33 pages to read. If I wrote all the scum traits for each person, it'd be a novel. I summarized the highlights in my first three posts and then had the list at the end. If you have a specific question, I'd be more than happy to answer it.

Talitha - what the heck is wolfsbane?

I'm the nursemaid. Back-up Doc.

Quagmire, you're the first on my list who hasn't yet claimed. Let's hear it.

[Talitha]

When did Pooky get cleared? We have dead pro-town sane cop?

I'll explain wolfsbane when we've all claimed our roles, but it's similar in function to what Skruffs claimed

[JordanA24]

Jordan encourages cop not to reveal second investigation. Why? I don't understand that. It could have narrowed the potential scum field.

It would have narrowed the potential scum field, but in the same stroke, it would have been another confirmed townie (assuming ~N9V~ isn't scum) with a great big target painted on their back.

[Skruffs]

Interesting, Talitha. I would think that Wolfsbane probably only affects wolves, though. Mine is total.
If my claim is called into question, I guess I can request to be arrowed tonight or something. If I die, then I am lying, and if I don't, then I am not. Or, because I don't want to direct power roles, someone else could offer to target me in a way that provides results, but I think traditionally the spare kill is more effective.

[Skruffs]

Jordan - We want cleared people. Period. That's the point of the mass claim. IF you were worried about targets, I think you'd have been mroe reluctant to make everyone claim.

[bobbyplump]

It would have narrowed the potential scum field, but in the same stroke, it would have been another confirmed townie (assuming ~N9V~ isn't scum) with a great big target painted on their back.

I don't quite agree with your logic here, Jordan. Wolves should know who is a townie anyway. They don't need a cop to tell them.

By the way, I don't know if this was mentioned earlier, but a Fletcher (TheAdmiral) is a person who makes arrows. I have no idea how this affects the game, but I looked up fletchers today b/c I didn't know what they were.

[Shanba]

I'm male, btw.

[~N9V~]

How would a Sibling help us? They all don't have to have a specific role, they could just be townies.

I agree with yes, the wolves do know that everyone is town sided (with the exception of a SK) but now they can pick and choose who they want to kill and in what order.

[bobbyplump]

I'm male, btw.

Noted.

I should have realized that was a male tree frog in your avatar.

[JordanA24]

It would have narrowed the potential scum field, but in the same stroke, it would have been another confirmed townie (assuming ~N9V~ isn't scum) with a great big target painted on their back.

I don't quite agree with your logic here, Jordan. Wolves should know who is a townie anyway. They don't need a cop to tell them.

The town don't however know who's town and who's not, scum want as few confirmed townies alive as possible, since it narrows the scum field, and any decision they make is more trusted by the town, so, the scum want to kill confirmed townies.

Jordan - We want cleared people. Period. That's the point of the mass claim. IF you were worried about targets, I think you'd have been mroe reluctant to make everyone claim.

We weren't in a likely lylo situation back then, the only reason we're mass-claiming now is because of that.

[bobbyplump]

Fair point, Jordan. I can see both sides of it. Really, in retrospect it's just a minor point that doesn't have much of a bearing on where I ranked you.

[cicero]

My analysis and my wolf list:

I don't think scum would have come up with the mass claim idea.

11. bobbyplump

Why not? Seems like a perfectly good thing for scum to want to know. Especially in this game. And Talitha hasn't agreed to claim. She's said she's "wolvesbane" and won't tell us what that is until everyone else is done - a move that will limit her accidentally claiming someone else's role. I'm not saying she is or isn't scum, but I disagree with your analysis there. Thoughts?