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Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:20 am

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In post 1173, Persivul wrote:
In post 1169, BlackStar wrote:On day 1 I thought you were town because you called out Wednesday on his weird behavior. So I expected the scum to try and kill you. I didn't really trust RC so I gambled that he was scum and thought that I could redirect the kill from you onto him.

What was your alignment card?

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Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:20 am

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In post 1172, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1170, BlackStar wrote:I'm saying that someone else targeted RC and that's why Starbuck died instead of him.


Same question stands: Why would ONE switch take precedence OVER ANOTHER?

Oh, I have no idea.
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Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:21 am

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Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:21 am

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OK, what's your modifier then?? Maybe that would help.
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Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:22 am

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In post 1171, Almost50 wrote:@Persy: I'd appreciate your input as well. ASSUMING BlackStar's statements all to be true, how would TWO BusDrivers targeting the same person resolve?

That's a question for mod.

BUT, note that it's not necessarily the case that two redirectors targeted me. It could mean that a second redirector targeted RC and droog. So, the kill went from me, to RC, to droog.

Or it could be that Blackstar is mistaken, or lying.

These kinds of things are why I suggested a massclaim earlier.
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Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:23 am

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In post 1175, BlackStar wrote:
In post 1173, Persivul wrote:
In post 1169, BlackStar wrote:On day 1 I thought you were town because you called out Wednesday on his weird behavior. So I expected the scum to try and kill you. I didn't really trust RC so I gambled that he was scum and thought that I could redirect the kill from you onto him.

What was your alignment card?

Town

I mean the actual card, like vanilla townie or tracker.
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Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:25 am

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Let's lynch flubber guys, he is FAs partner!
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Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:26 am

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In post 1179, Persivul wrote:These kinds of things are why I suggested a massclaim earlier.


WE're past that point I guess.

I'm town doctor and I healed RC last night :|
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Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:30 am

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In post 1178, Almost50 wrote:OK, what's your modifier then?? Maybe that would help.

Alpha. I show up as not werewolf
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Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:34 am

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In post 1180, Persivul wrote:
In post 1175, BlackStar wrote:
In post 1173, Persivul wrote:
In post 1169, BlackStar wrote:On day 1 I thought you were town because you called out Wednesday on his weird behavior. So I expected the scum to try and kill you. I didn't really trust RC so I gambled that he was scum and thought that I could redirect the kill from you onto him.

What was your alignment card?

Town

I mean the actual card, like vanilla townie or tracker.

town clairvoyant
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Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:37 am

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You got clairvoyant in both the first deal and the second?
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Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:39 am

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At this time I do believe a massclaim should help:

I'm a Town BusDriver with DOUBLE-DOWN Modifier. My 1st switch was Persy for Starbuck (which is why I believe Smithereens claim, obviously). My second switch was myself for BlackStar.

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Reason for 1st switch: I wasn't sure of Persy's alignment (still am not) but thought I'd protect him IF he was town. It didn't seem logical to protect him over someone more likely to be town, and as I had no problem of losing Starbuck anyway it seemed like the best move. A nightkill targeted at Persy would serve to rid us of a totally unknown, but -more importantly- would prove he is not <insert alignment here> depending on the method of the NK. Unfortunately; Town Vig never occurred to me.

Reason for 2nd switch: I didn't want to get NK'd myself. I picked someone who was being more quiet than not, so they probably would not have been targeted by any killer anyway, so I was safe. I also thought BS was less likely to be scum than -say- Starbuck or Jackal so I picked him over them both (in case I was investigated myself. I would not want to escape a NK only to find myself lynched based on evidence I personally faked on me). It was close between him and dave, but I saw BS to be a little bit more townier than dave.
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Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:40 am

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In post 1185, Persivul wrote:You got clairvoyant in both the first deal and the second?

oh. I didnt understnad your question. I got claiyvoyant and then the second time I chose busdriver
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Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:41 am

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Now let's see .. this has become VERY messy. I can't even decide whom to protect, whom to believe, and whom to suspect. My head is spinning faster than a Ferrari engine.
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Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:44 am

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In post 1187, BlackStar wrote:
In post 1185, Persivul wrote:You got clairvoyant in both the first deal and the second?

oh. I didnt understnad your question. I got claiyvoyant and then the second time I chose busdriver

You still don't understand. The second time you had cop and bus driver. What was the third card?
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Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:44 am

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@FA: can you gather up all the role and target claims in one post?
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Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:48 am

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@Persivul: You see now why I needed someone in the know to explain? I DID switch you for Starbuck directly, and Smither said she targeted you but StarBuck died instead. HOLY "SHIP"! How DID she know it was StarBuck and NOT lane?????? Unless -of course- FA is spot on and Smither knew who the faction kill was targeted at!!!!
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Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:52 am

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In post 1189, Persivul wrote:
In post 1187, BlackStar wrote:
In post 1185, Persivul wrote:You got clairvoyant in both the first deal and the second?

oh. I didnt understnad your question. I got claiyvoyant and then the second time I chose busdriver

You still don't understand. The second time you had cop and bus driver. What was the third card?

Now both of us are confused haha.
This is what i originally got in the first draw

Town Clairvoyant
Town Tracker
Mafia Goon

I chose clairvoyant.
this is what i had in the second draw

Town Cop
Neighborizer
Town Bus Driver

I chose bus driver and got the role pm confirming that. But then I got another pm from the mod saying that he made a mistake. The combinations i chose wouldn't give me the role that I wanted, town bus driver. He had to change the neighborizer card to vanilla townie and discard the cop role.
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Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:52 am

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yep persi working on it
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Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:53 am

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@Almost - Actually no, I'm gonna need to work through this more thoroughly later. Hopefully FA or someone will compile the whole list of claims and actions to make it easier. Although roles don't indicate alignment in this setup, actions and reasons for those actions can be weighed.
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Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:54 am

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In post 1150, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1148, Flubbernugget wrote:
In post 1144, Frozen Angel wrote:I don't believe the cop claim for one sec

It was just the safest claim there ...

and even if I believe it that doesn't show he is town

WHY DO YOU KEEP AVOIDING PERSUVIALS TRACKER CLAIM

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

WHYYYYY

WHY WHY WHY


AT THIS POINT I MUST INSULT YOU

I'M NOT IGNORING IT

YOUR MAKING A GREAT DEAL OVER IT

DAVE CONFIRMED TRACKER CLAIM , PERCIVAL DIDN'T CONFIRM COP CLAIM

He just claimed something to explain why he visited Jackle


WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN CLAIMED SOMETHING TO EXPLAIN WHY HE VISITED JACKLE

WHY DO YOU NEED A REASON TO VISIT JACKAL HAVE YOU SEEN HIS PLAY

WHYYYYYYYYYYYY

WHYYYYYY

WHY WHY WHY
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Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:55 am

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In post 801, Smithereens wrote:nah it's a redirector. I tried to vig Persival because I thought he was scum, but someone else died. I figure I shot the werewolf seeing as they probably wouldn't shoot themselves.


Or maybe she didn't. Aaaaaargh
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Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:56 am

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In post 1151, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1149, Persivul wrote:
In post 1140, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 1126, Flubbernugget wrote:explain how persuival 's tracker claim plays into this pls


dave claimed cop - not guilty on Jack so thats even more convincing about my town read on jackle


dave cop thing can be fake , I don't know

but now I have a better feeling on persival , the more I'm looking at this

@Blackstar the fact that my role is related to last night kills was the hint

In post 1144, Frozen Angel wrote:
I don't believe the cop claim for one sec


It was just the safest claim there ...

and even if I believe it that doesn't show he is town



IF HE IS COP => jackle is not mafia

IF HE IS MAFIA => Jackle is not mafia

I NEVER SAID I LIKE THAT COP CLAIM


are you saying that a scum cop visited their scumbuddy

is that what you're saying

i think thats what you're saying

i am very sad now
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Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:56 am

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I thought great idea was mass claim proof from breaking it, so how is this really helping us?
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Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:58 am

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In post 1192, BlackStar wrote:Town Cop
Neighborizer
Town Bus Driver

I chose bus driver and got the role pm confirming that. But then I got another pm from the mod saying that he made a mistake. The combinations i chose wouldn't give me the role that I wanted, town bus driver. He had to change the neighborizer card to vanilla townie and discard the cop role.

I'm not asking about the combinations, I'm asking about the three underlying cards. In your PM for the second draw, assuming it's like mine, you got three unnumbered cards. Below that, you got three numbered combinations.

I'm asking about the unnumbered cards.

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