Blitz 16: Blitz Greatest Idea Mafia(GAME OVER)

[Persivul]

You keep giving supposed explanations for your Blackstar scumread that in no way explain your BlackStar scumread.

[RadiantCowbells]

welp I'm rc

reasons.

[Persivul]

Meh, I've had enough.

VOTE: Ranger

[RadiantCowbells]

fixed.

[Almost50]

Well, if this is the case then I would rather you would use your second Governor shot NOW.

VOTE: Ranger

[Ranger]

So, Ranger; Please tell me this: Why can't you be a WW Coroner?

Aside from the fact that I hardcore pushed Starbuck as scum, you mean?

Oh, just the fact that I'm mod-confirmed to have discarded the Werewolf role.

So unless I got TWO Werewolf roles AND a town coroner role (because that's the combination needed for me to be a werewolf coroner: werewolf, werewolf power role that I chose alignment rather than role for, and town coroner), I cannot be a werewolf.

I never visited him so Ranger is just throwing me under the bus.

I'm pretty sure this is a scumslip.
Obviously I'm not scum with BlackStar, but I'm pretty sure BlackStar IS scum for this.

@Everybody: What are the chances you would receive the same role in both draws?

My role the first draw was town watcher. I know coroner is a similar role, but for the time of the first pick, I actually didn't know what coroner did. I just knew that watcher would be stronger, so I picked watcher. What does Kingmaker even do? I didn't even care to find out. Same for 2x coroner. I didn't know what a coroner did until I drew it in the second round.

Not only this, but she states she was extremely disappointed she had to settle for something weak this time around. Do you think Coroner is weak?

Compare: one-shot coroner. Able to see who visited the dead, one time.
Infinite-shot watcher. Able to see who visited a player an infinite number of times.

Yes, 1x coroner is weak in comparison to watcher.

3- She's town --> There's still a chance BS is the lone mafia remaining, OR it's him and dave (in which case we lose).

Or it's BS+Persivul, as they're the two main people pushing me as scum.
That said, dave's fencesitting is a little bit sketchy, yes.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't have one, but I was hoping to bluff you guys into being not retarded.

I think Almost50 is the other maf but it's hard to say for sure.

[RadiantCowbells]

Sorry for 1731. I'd appreciate it if mod would change the phrasing.

[Persivul]

I believe that's L-1. Now we just need to see if davesaz is on board.

[RadiantCowbells]

Oh, and I have one more argument.

Werewolf is far more 'interesting' than mafia because it's underplayed. That's why you see more of them than mafia.

I can't at all fathom that Blackstar would choose Mafia over Werewolf.

[Ranger]

Since we know that one of Ranger or BlackStar is lying, we lynch Ranger first.

Except the game's almost certainly over with a mafia win if you lynch me first, so yeah.

Interestingly, Ranger isn't even voting Blackstar.

Yes. Because while I'm pretty sure BlackStar is scum, I've been looking at any possible scenario where he is town and what that would mean.

Furthermore, regardless of BlackStar's alignment, ending the day too soon would not be pro-town, as people still have actions to set up.

I don't trust any of you guys right now with how hard you're defending Blackstar when he's done nothing whatsoever to make anyone tihnk that he's town and blatantly fished for a counterwagon to his own.

There's also this. BlackStar has done nothing town the entire game pretty much.

I have, as noted, done several town things. While I could theoretically be a mafia who hard-defended Wednesday and hard-pushed a werewolf, this is not optimal multiball play. It is, however, optimal town play to defend town players and push scum players.

Crowd mentality in favour of Ranger lynch -> I speedlynch you Blackstar.

This too. The crowd mentality has shifted to be on me.

[Almost50]

Ranger; Persy has been ANALYTICALLY proven town. There is no acceptable scenario in which he could be either mafia or WW.

[Ranger]

VOTE: BlackStar.

[Ranger]

Ranger; Persy has been ANALYTICALLY proven town. There is no acceptable scenario in which he could be either mafia or WW.

I reject your analysis and substitute my own: Persivul is playing to his scum meta.

[RadiantCowbells]

that ranger.

But seriously guys, Blackstar is p fucking obviously scum here.

I'm getting a rather low opinion of both of you, assuming you're both town.

If one of you is scum, well played, and the other should slap themself hard for this play.

Ranger; Persy has been ANALYTICALLY proven town. There is no acceptable scenario in which he could be either mafia or WW.

No, he hasn't. And that doesn't mean you're lynching correctly either.

But if Persy is town he should pull his head out of his derriere.

[Persivul]

Oh, and I have one more argument.

Werewolf is far more 'interesting' than mafia because it's underplayed. That's why you see more of them than mafia.

I can't at all fathom that Blackstar would choose Mafia over Werewolf.

Doesn't that work in his favor? Last night we had two gunshot victims and one dismemberment. We know FB was a vig. That leaves one gunshot unaccounted for, which means there's probably mafia in the game.

[Almost50]

I can't at all fathom that Blackstar would choose Mafia over Werewolf.

You realize this to be an argument FOR BlackStar, not against him? For one thing, in none of the remaining 7 scenarios is he a WW. For another, lane was killed by a mafia shot. Now you're telling us he's not likely to be mafia??

[RadiantCowbells]

I mixed up the names.

I don't believe that RANGER would have chosen Mafia over Werewolf. Werewolves are less common ergo cooler.

Besides, where's your case on Ranger scum?

[RadiantCowbells]

I actually think that Almost50 is the scumpartner right now.

[RadiantCowbells]

Davesaz, pls save me.

[davesaz]

Save you from what?

[RadiantCowbells]

from the insanity of this town.

talk with me, you agree that Blackstar is far more likely to be scum than Ranger here, right?

Do you agree with what I'm seeing that Almost50 could be scumpartnered with Black?

[Almost50]

RC; are you intentionally acting like this or is this your nature?? It was shown Almost + Blackstar CANNOT be scum together. At least one of us switched Persy for Starbuck to protect him. Starbuck got shot by his own partner. Even if that was a lie and Smither actually shot lane it would still not make any sense for a mafia team of Almost & BS to shoot an inactive. Period.

And btw, it is NOT a lie either bc Smither admitted shooting at Persy's slot even before either of the 2 Bus Drivers claimed, and we're supposed to be mafia while she was a WW.

Now STOP BEING A NAG. Everything YOU say is a distraction. Scum or town, I don't really care what you are for the time being. Just stop it, please.

[RadiantCowbells]

Fuck off.

We aren't lynching Ranger today.

Why can't you guys be scum together?

Why does it make no sense for you to shoot an inactive? Quit straw manning the thread up.

[Persivul]

Oh, and I have one more argument.

Werewolf is far more 'interesting' than mafia because it's underplayed. That's why you see more of them than mafia.

I can't at all fathom that Blackstar would choose Mafia over Werewolf.

I mixed up the names.

I don't believe that RANGER would have chosen Mafia over Werewolf. Werewolves are less common ergo cooler.

Besides, where's your case on Ranger scum?

So you can't fathom Ranger taking a less interesting role, even though she said herself in 164, "As a result, to be town, I got stuck with something weak."

Actually, I agree with you. I can't see Ranger taking a weaker role just so she could be town.