Mini 497 - Game Over

[joost]

Eh, ya I agree with you it does seem like I am waffling pretty hard, but as I said my defending him earlier in the game was due to me being new and not wanting someone who really has no tells either way of being scum or town(so i say town only for the fact by numbers). I realize right now though our collective best bet would to be get rid of him and see what information can be brought to us. I ALSO still believe both Joost and Kabenon007 are acting scummy by harping on Dusterhan so early and so hard, and may be scum partners. I will keep vote though and won't FOS anyone as this is purely speculation and am just throwing that out there.

Is this your first game? You say you "still believe" Kabenon and me are acting scummy. But you have not mentioned me until now. You voted for Kab but unvoted for reasons unknown.

I have mentioned you, I basically called you liar and you haven't responded. Why not? I'd like to know how you got the information that Duster left in two games.

It seems to me that you were trying to defend your scumbuddy Dusterhan until it was obvious people (besides me) are getting tired of him and want him lynched. Why do you suddenly want to join bandwagon? If we lynch Dusterhan today and he turns out to be scum you will be my next target. If he turns out to be a townie, I will probably still suspect you. Duster is unhelpful for the town whatever his alignment. People who defend him are suspicious either way.

[Knuck]

Is this your first game? You say you "still believe" Kabenon and me are acting scummy. But you have not mentioned me until now. You voted for Kab but unvoted for reasons unknown.

I have mentioned you, I basically called you liar and you haven't responded. Why not? I'd like to know how you got the information that Duster left in two games.

It seems to me that you were trying to defend your scumbuddy Dusterhan until it was obvious people (besides me) are getting tired of him and want him lynched. Why do you suddenly want to join bandwagon? If we lynch Dusterhan today and he turns out to be scum you will be my next target. If he turns out to be a townie, I will probably still suspect you. Duster is unhelpful for the town whatever his alignment. People who defend him are suspicious either way.

Learn how to read my post. I have already answered why I changed my opinion for the second time. I said that I thought he was a helpless townie being picked on for an easy lynch mainly by kabenon007 and then
you. I have answered why I changed my vote, and also said I still suspect him and you now for going so hard for a Duster lynch.

You are right in calling me on me saying he was absent in the two games, i meant to say he wasn't posting much, my screw up on words, I was trying to get the point across though that he is doing this in more than just this game. So it shouldn't be a tell either way of what alignment he is, and again so you don't ask me why i think he is town, for the sole reason on numbers, he has no tells either way.

I really wish there was more participation from everyone else though.

[Atticus]

Unvote

I like that response.

[joost]

Learn how to read my post.

I'm learning.

I have already answered why I changed my opinion for the second time. I said that I thought he was a helpless townie being picked on for an easy lynch mainly by kabenon007 and then
you. I have answered why I changed my vote, and also said I still suspect him and you now for going so hard for a Duster lynch.

Yes, you have answered why you changed your vote to Duster. I merely stated that I think your changing your vote together with your explanation was suspicious. And this last post didn't do much to reduce that suspicion. Next time when you find someone suspicious too I would appreciate it if you said it aloud right away. When you say:

I do not like this play at all and it shows scum to me trying to pick off a helpless townie. Vote Kabenon007

It's not obvious to me that you actually mean me too. You said you still believe me to be acting scummy but you never said you were suspicious of my behaviour before, you just mentioned Kabenon.

You are right in calling me on me saying he was absent in the two games, i meant to say he wasn't posting much, my screw up on words, I was trying to get the point across though that he is doing this in more than just this game. So it shouldn't be a tell either way of what alignment he is, and again so you don't ask me why i think he is town, for the sole reason on numbers, he has no tells either way.

Do you realize that you made it sounds like it was almost impossible that Duster was scum in all of his game and that in fact he turned out to be a townie in at least one of the games he played. Being scum in 4 games is highly unlikely. Being scum in 2 games is not very likely but definitely impossible. That being said, I do think this is an adequate explanation and I don't think you tried to fool us with that post (#130 if people keep track).

Also I'd like you to learn to read my posts, I asked you a few questions and I don't think you answered them:
- Is this your first game?
- Why didn't respond to me when I said I thought you were lying?

I really wish there was more participation from everyone else though.

QFT

Mod: votecount please

[Sephiroth]

I have been too busy to get around to my promised post, and I still am. I hope to get to it tomorrow.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

Ohh... ffs. I came to check up on what's happened, and it seems I'VE NOT BEEN REPLACED YET. Get a move on

MOD

Unvote
Vote: Dusterhan

There's no reason to why he's purposely lurking and not actually getting involved

Getting involved is how we catch scum. Not just sitting back, watching the game from a distance, hoping you find something!!!

[Aimee]

To busy to post, but I remember that Cavane seems to have limited access at the moment - he has been replaced in at least one game he was in.

[joost]

I prodded the mod. And I did a tally of the votes which is unofficial and in alphabetical order:

Dusterhan: 4 (Joost, Kabenon007, Knuck, Nekka-Lucifer)
Joost: 1 (Dusterhan)
Kabenon007: 1 (Sepiroth)
Tinvision: 1 (destructor)
Not voting: the rest

I'd like to add that Sepiroth vote was a random vote and he hasn't changed it since. I'd like him to confirm this vote.

Destructor's vote was cast on page 3 and confirmed on page 5. Is this still your opinion, Destructor?

[destructor]

Sorry for not posting in a while. I'm updating my notes and just had a quick skim through. I don't like the fact that discussion is still going on about dusterhan. I'm still going for a TinVision lynch, and in my skim, saw nothing to change this. He's been defensive and done little to no scum hunting. Maybe the same could be said about dusterhan, but then TV's been around posting more, so for this impression to still exist seems to say something.

[Sephiroth]

What do you mean by "confirm the vote"? I don't remember the basis of my vote, so it was probably random. I don't see much reason to unvote until im certain who i will vote for instead.

[joost]

Yes, it was a random vote. I just wanted to know if you knew you still random voted for Kabenon. You are not willing to unvote, does that mean you think Kabenon is the most suspicious player in the game?

[Sephiroth]

I havent finished rereading all the players that I wished to. So I'm unsure of who I find to be the most suspicious yet. I just dont see any reason to unvote if I dont plan to put my vote elsewhere as of yet. I've always seen those "unvote my random vote, do nothing" posts really annoying, and even suspicious to a small degree. Thus I don't make them.

[SilverPhoenix]

Yeah, I asked a while ago to be replaced too. Cavane is absent from the other game I'm in too, so I think he's gone. *shrugs*

[Sephiroth]

Hrm. Perhaps I should contact Meme to request a temporary replacement mod? Needless to say, the game will stall like crazy without a mod. On the brightside, it gives me time to finish my rereading.

[-TinVision-]

I'm gonna really try to take an interest in this game. It's hard with the mod gone, dusterhan useless, and my personal life being the flaming pile of DOOOOM that it is. Sorry about my extended absence.

[Atticus]

As an FYI, our mod hasn't posted anywhere since the 14th.

[joost]

Did Sephiroth contact Meme yet?

[destructor]

DAMMIT!
I've played in two minis. The first was mod abandonded, and this one looks like it may have met a similar fate. Maybe I curse minis... ._.

But that's pessimistic. I'm sure Cavane will show up soon enough. =D

And yes, I'll have something substantial to say about this game soon. This week's been busy and the next few days may be too, so it'll be after that.

[Sephiroth]

Did Sephiroth contact Meme yet?

just sent the pm now. I dont know if we'll get results any time soon though, in terms of finding someone to replace cavane.

[Nekka-Lucifer]

All blame Destructor!!

[MeMe]

Thanks for the heads-up. I'm doing what I can to get in touch with Cavane -- if he doesn't respond in 72 hours, I'll look into finding a replacement IF at least half (6) of the current players PM me and request that I do so.

[MeMe]

OK -- I've heard back from Cavane and he's definitely stepping out of the game, but I got the set-up from him. Like I said, though, I'll only find another mod if you all want to keep playing. So send me a PM within 72 hours if you don't want this abandoned and if I get 6+ requests, I'll run it myself if I have to.

[Sephiroth]

PM sent. But I dont think that getting players will be a problem.

I tried to get work done on my analysis today but I lost a good size post to a quota error.

[joost]

pm sent

[kabenon007]

pm sent! Can we count on dusterhan to send one?