Blitz 24: Great Idea Mafia

[Persivul]

I thought you were done?

[RadiantCowbells]

Can't leave for another 20 minutes.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why are you nitpicking everything in my play that's not alignment indicative?
You're basically nitpicking stuff that I do all the time and saying "WELL IF HE WAS SCUM HE'D BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH IT."
You've given no reason for me to actually be scum here besides that I could be scum here.

[lilith2013]

RC, do you think I'm town?

[Persivul]

I voted you because I found the call for a cop to out to be really scummy.

[RadiantCowbells]

Like if you guys write this off as TvT after my flip I'm going to be pretty fucking pisssed because Persivul clearly isn't town here.

I also get the feeling that Lane knows that I'm town but is just voting me because he's a salty mofo.

RC, do you think I'm town?

I don't see why you'd stick out your neck on my behalf as scum in multiball.
I'm pretty sure you're town, yes.

I voted you because I found the call for a cop to out to be really scummy.

Why should I allow myself to be mislynched by idiots when my role is potentially confirmable?

[lilith2013]

And no other reason, persivul?

[lilith2013]

It's an RC mindset. I don't think it's alignment-indicative.

There is truth to this. RC brags about his scum game, and he's good at being scum in part because he's gotten people used to his town game containing significant anti-town elements. When people say

yeah, that's generally scummy, but it's normal for RC

he's going to have a pretty easy time as scum.

I don't get how this is relevant to the game. Do you have an issue with me saying things are null for RC? Do you think they're not null? Why?

[Persivul]

Why should I allow myself to be mislynched by idiots when my role is potentially confirmable?

You claim that you've never been mislynched D1, and you weren't close to being lynched when you called for the cop to out. So, no, you didn't do so because you were afraid of being mislynched.

[Persivul]

And no other reason, persivul?

That was the initial reason. His reaction - calling for the lynch of everyone on his wagon - was terrible, particularly with regard to lane, as I've already noted.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why did I call for cop to out then?

[lilith2013]

Why should I allow myself to be mislynched by idiots when my role is potentially confirmable?

You claim that you've never been mislynched D1, and you weren't close to being lynched when you called for the cop to out. So, no, you didn't do so because you were afraid of being mislynched.

Pretty sure he was L1.

[RadiantCowbells]

Why did I call for cop to out then?

Why did I call for cop to out if not for those reasons?

[lilith2013]

And no other reason, persivul?

That was the initial reason. His reaction - calling for the lynch of everyone on his wagon - was terrible, particularly with regard to lane, as I've already noted.

How is this terrible?

We've already discussed that this is an RC thing that is NAI and you even agreed.

[RadiantCowbells]

Where is my scum motivation here?

[lilith2013]

How was it terrible?*

[Persivul]

How is this terrible?

Are you reading what I'm saying? You don't seem to be, as I've already said that IMO lane is obvtown, and lane was on that wagon, so your question is already answered. xtox's vote was opportunistic but he's been inactive so voting him would be policy. I had been on itlepip and GL, both of which are viable, so I had no incentive as scum to move to a completely new wagon. Calling for all our deaths is therefore terrible.

[Persivul]

I am not voting Itle today.
Lane, Persivul, Xtoxm. Pick one.

GL, can I get your vote onto one of the people on my wagon, preferably Lane or Xtoxm?

Also note that of the three of us he had me as the least scummy. Now that I've kept pushing, I'm the scummiest.

[lane0168]

Now how in the world could I know you're town rc?

Do you really have to ask what the scum motivation is behind asking the cop to out himself day one? If there is a cop in the first place?

[lilith2013]

How is this terrible?

Are you reading what I'm saying? You don't seem to be, as I've already said that IMO lane is obvtown, and lane was on that wagon, so your question is already answered. xtox's vote was opportunistic but he's been inactive so voting him would be policy. I had been on itlepip and GL, both of which are viable, so I had no incentive as scum to move to a completely new wagon. Calling for all our deaths is therefore terrible.

Are you reading what you're saying? We had this conversation.

I don't give a shit if you're town or not if you're voting me to be honest.

I don't give a shit if you're town or not if you're voting me to be honest.

Do you think that's a town mindset lilith?

It's an RC mindset. I don't think it's alignment-indicative.

It's an RC mindset. I don't think it's alignment-indicative.

There is truth to this.

RC brags about his scum game, and he's good at being scum in part because he's gotten people used to his town game containing significant anti-town elements. When people say

yeah, that's generally scummy, but it's normal for RC

he's going to have a pretty easy time as scum.

Is this not you agreeing that the whole thing is NAI? Why are you turning around and now saying that it's a scummy reaction?

And you had plenty of incentive to hop on the RC wagon. In fact, if it weren't for my unvote shortly prior, you would have been the hammer. Instead you put him at L-1, after momentum on your other two wagons (GL and itle) had slowed down.

[lane0168]

Lilith, why did you unvote as soon as rc got a little bit of pressure again?

[lilith2013]

I can't even tell if I don't want RC lynched because I'm townreading him or because I just want to be contrary but that wagon is gross.

I really do not like the wagon that just happened, regardless of RC's alignment. Both speed and general ick factor are clanging my alarm bells.

[lane0168]

@lilith, that's a lie, he wasn't at l-1.

It was you, x, and me, l-2. Then you unvote. L-3. The pers votes. L-2.

Stop it. Unless I'm missing a vote in there

Pedit. Why don't you like it regardless of alignment? In a potential multiball, if you think it's scum pushing a wagon, do you think said scum would be faking scum reads? Or pushing someone they actually think could be scum?

Why dont you think its scummy to fake claim? Why don't you think it's scummy to try to out a cop?

[lane0168]

It's like when you think about the cop thing you want to consider its multiball so outting the cop isn't scummy, but when you think about the wagon on rc, all of a sudden you're not considering multiball, rc is town and other people are scum.

Not a good thing when you change your assumptions

[lilith2013]

I thought he was at L-1, which is why I unvoted so quickly. Not sure why I thought that, I guess the votes confused me.

Of course I think one scum faction would be trying to get another lynched?? Is that not something you want to happen? The other consideration is that I know as scum RC loves to bus, so even if RC is scum, there would likely be someone of his own faction on that wagon.

Again, already had this conversation--general self-centeredness in RC's posts is NAI, I think he genuinely believes what he's saying.