NY 193 : Werewolf Mania (GAME OVER- TOWN WIN)

[Xkfyu]

Oh so as it happens JJD's arguments were basically exclusively focused on Blackstar, and as it happens he's my main scumread anyway.

I sincerely doubt that JJD would have been killed to frame BlackStar over making a seer kill, so...

VOTE: Blackstar

Are you intentionally stating false information?

JarJar spent a very significant amount of time in D1 arguing with, and voting, Almost50. I haven't gone back to look, but off the top of my head, I would say that he was more focused on Almost50 than Blackstar.

[Xkfyu]

I still like my scumread on nero. Can we lynch that guys?

His fixation on PK is indeed an annoyance, but I don't think he's scum. If he is, the only explanation I can think of about his push on PK is distancing, and I'm not reading PK as scum to begin with.

That said, I think now we know ika & Silver had access to eachother's accounts. Maybe they're both using the same PC or something, and ika read the role PM of Silver thinking it was theirs, thus the replacement came after IKA claimed seer (when -in fact- it was Silver). Just thought I'd bring this up in light of the NK flip.

What? How can you KNOW any of that about ika/Silver based solely on the fact that ika's claim was legit?

[Xkfyu]

In post 632, Nero Cain wrote:
If Black is scum he'd know mine and Ika's alignment. If Ika is town there is scum motivation in diffusing a TvT fight.


In post 684, Xkfyu wrote:
Of course, it would depend on what scum would try to achieve, but I would say that, more often than not, there would be more scum motivation in not diffusing a Town vs Town fight.

Maybe I'm a little more gung ho on it but X certainly understand where I am coming from. I find it bizarre as F that you are trying to claim that we are arguing different points when we aren't.

You do realize that the word "not" is in there, right?

I do understand where you're coming from, as there are definitely times when scum stand to gain more from diffusing a Town vs Town fight. However, like I said before, I think that scum usually stands to gain more from just letting them fight.

Furthermore, I believe this to be case, especially very early on in the game, which was the case when we had this original conversation.

So really, you're both right. I do understand your stance, but I am arguing against it. So what are you two really arguing about?

[Masquerade]

Sorry for not posting much lately, been a little lost in this game. Will catch up now and se what I can do.

[Masquerade]

I read up and so far I only have 1 read. SRMP, scum, not answering questions asked of him while he's quoting posts in which they were asked.
I'll spend some time on iso's later....

VOTE: SRMP

[Xkfyu]

Someone asked me to explain my claim. I never claimed. I'm rereading now.

Yes. Yes you did.

I also haven't received much pressure. This is my second time getting this role, and I was expecting it to be a little different.

You claimed a role that you have only had one other time, which means that you are either a Mafia Goon, a VT, or a Town Profiler, or a different role that you have received played on a different site.

Now, I have no idea why you would be expecting a VT role to be "a little different," so that leaves a Mafia Goon and a Town Profiler. So yeah, I definitely think you need to do some explaining.

UNVOTE: Almost50

VOTE: BeBopAReBopRhubarbPie

[Masquerade]

Oh btw, this weekend and the few days after I'll be v/la because of Dutch carnaval. I'll be working and drinking (mostly drinking) and partying and won't be sober much to do stuff here.

[Fraggernaut]

Vote Count 3.1

Blackstar (3) - Almost50, pisskop, RadiantCowbells
BeBopAReBopRhubarbPie (2) - Blackstar, Xkfyu
pisskop (1) - Nero Cain
Some Random Mafia Player (1) - Masquerade

Not Voting (6) - Zulfy, Keyser Soze, Some Random Mafia Player, SnarkySnowman, BeBopReBop RhubarbPie, Golden Robster


Deadline is February, 17th, 2016 at 6:50 AM EST.

[Keyser Söze]

Sorry guys, I've been very busy with work this week. I should be on this weekend though fully committed.

[Nero Cain]

So really, you're both right. I do understand your stance, but I am arguing against it. So what are you two really arguing about?

I don't really think there is enough information to say that he didn't do that as scum. I mean, I haven't seen any evidence of MB and that KINDA makes BS look town in my eyes unless he's being bussed-wich is a maybe possibility. Overall though I don't think our positions are that different and I think Zulfy trying to play us against one another is scum motivated. Now that you've clarified your position that you do NOT think BS is scum it makes me wonder if you are right and that's what Zulfy is agreeing with you.

[Nero Cain]

I read up and so far I only have 1 read. SRMP, scum, not answering questions asked of him while he's quoting posts in which they were asked.
I'll spend some time on iso's later....

VOTE: SRMP

1 read in a 60 pages ewww.

I also don't see him (SRMP) not answering questions. If not answering questions is a scumtell to you then why are RC and Snarky not scumreads for you?

If you are read up why do you need to read iso's

[BlackStar]

Isos help you to examine the way somebody plays closer and it helps you to notice things that you might have missed the first time around. I didn't notice srmp ignoring questions either though

[Some Random Mafia Player]

I read up and so far I only have 1 read. SRMP, scum, not answering questions asked of him while he's quoting posts in which they were asked.
I'll spend some time on iso's later....

VOTE: SRMP

Thats because I wasent asked any questions...

[Zulfy]

Nero u r ignoring me

[Zulfy]

I think Zulfy trying to play us against one another is scum motivated.

That has never happened

[pisskop]

Aye I see some people are trying to create cliques

[Nero Cain]

Nero u r ignoring me

What are your reads on BS/Almost and why?

I am very interested in your almost read and I'd like you to do so before I answer

im saying youre using "oh it's WIFOM so why bother" as a lame excuse and I dont like it.

have you given any reads this whole game?

[Zulfy]

Those are my stances. I am light on my feet.

[Zulfy]

I'm just still distrustful about this whole "seer" business.

+1, looking like something scum would think scum would never say

[RadiantCowbells]

What happened to everyone saying they were going to wagon me today?

Why did you change your minds overnight?

[pisskop]

I just couldn't bring myself to

[Nero Cain]

As far as I can tell you have two reads on all of IAI/SRMP and RC. A null read on Cobalt and then a bunch of +1's on me and others. Is this correct?

[Nero Cain]

^@ Zulfy

[SnarkySnowman]

doing ISOs

Masq = Scumlean

Brings little to the table, and I felt that he kinda maybe knew Ricastle would flip town?

[Nero Cain]

As far as I can tell you have

town

reads on all of IAI/SRMP and RC. A null read on Cobalt and then a bunch of +1's on me and others. Is this correct?

fixed