NY 193 : Werewolf Mania (GAME OVER- TOWN WIN)


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Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:40 am

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I looked through all of Pisskop's posts and I don't think he's scum. If anything, you're more suspicious Nero because you've been death tunneling him for 2 entire days. He's been pretty level heade throughout most of the game (up until the yo mama stuff) and he actually tries to figure out why people do the he things they do. He never said that you should prove his statement, he just said that you're making an argument based on meta that the two of you can't agree on.
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Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:42 am

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@smrp

No, because you tried so hard to justify it even after it was obvious that you didn't have any real reason for voting me. And then you kept posting dumb questions that served no purpose just to appear like you were town.
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Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:42 am

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Due to personal reasons I need to replace out.

I do not have time for mafiascum this month :(
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Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:44 am

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In post 1850, BlackStar wrote:If anything, you're more suspicious Nero because you've been death tunneling him for 2 entire days

its my job to lynch those that I think are scum.
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Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:46 am

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I didn't say you were scum. I said that it's suspicious that you've been solely fixated on pisskop for 2 days straight
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Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:49 am

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In post 1854, BlackStar wrote:solely fixated

I don't think that has happened.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:51 am

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Alright. So who is your second choice for a lynch?
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Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:55 am

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In post 852, pisskop wrote:ABR places out all the time. He seems much happier to place out than defend himself.


In post 1124, pisskop wrote:Youre really stuck on this ABR thing, but you havent even disputed the claim that he is just an apathetic player in general


This is Piss telling me that I need to prove that ABR is apathetic in general.

BlackStar wrote:Alright. So who is your second choice for a lynch?

prob SS
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Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:58 am

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In post 1851, BlackStar wrote:No, because you tried so hard to justify it


Why are you dismissing the possibility of it being for reactions?
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Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:58 am

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or maybe Zulfy. I prob scum read more people than I town read/aren't as suspicious of.
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Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:58 am

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but I feel like I'm the only one doing ANYTHING.
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Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:59 am

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In post 857, pisskop wrote:Youre just cherry picking an otherwise valid point.

The meat of your case is some meta we cant even agree on and youre still defending yourself while pushing me.

Oh, I was looking at this post. SS is a decent choice. He's barely even playing. Wait, didn't Zulfy say that he'd be more active today?
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Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:01 am

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In post 1858, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:
In post 1851, BlackStar wrote:No, because you tried so hard to justify it


Why are you dismissing the possibility of it being for reactions?

Because towards the end you were making the weakest arguments I've ever seen. Of course I'd come to the conclusion that you're desperately clinging onto your vote on me because you can't admit that you never had a real reason to vote me.
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Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:03 am

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In post 1793, Zulfy wrote:Prodded. Today Sunday February 7 is crazy. Monday Zulfy will rise again

Yup, here it is
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Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:07 am

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In post 1862, BlackStar wrote:
In post 1858, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:
In post 1851, BlackStar wrote:No, because you tried so hard to justify it


Why are you dismissing the possibility of it being for reactions?

Because towards the end you were making the weakest arguments I've ever seen. Of course I'd come to the conclusion that you're desperately clinging onto your vote on me because you can't admit that you never had a real reason to vote me.


I was applying every bit of pressure I could, and you reacted well. No, I dont have a reason to lynch you.

UNVOTE: Blackstar VOTE: bebop

might as well help almost pressure someone.
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Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:09 am

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In post 1861, BlackStar wrote:
In post 857, pisskop wrote:Youre just cherry picking an otherwise valid point.

The meat of your case is some meta we cant even agree on and youre still defending yourself while pushing me.

Oh, I was looking at this post.


In post 1857, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 852, pisskop wrote:ABR places out all the time. He seems much happier to place out than defend himself.


In post 1124, pisskop wrote:Youre really stuck on this ABR thing, but you havent even disputed the claim that he is just an apathetic player in general


This is Piss telling me that I need to prove that ABR is apathetic in general.


Does knowing you were wrong change anything for you?

@SRMP join me on piss plox
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Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:29 am

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Finding replacements for BeBopARebopRhubarbPie & Keyser.
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Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:45 am

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In post 1844, BlackStar wrote:If you want to pressure them, then build up cases against them and make us believe in their guilt.


How can I when there are no posts from them to build on? I asked BeBop to explain his soft claim and he denied it to be a claim to begin with then disappeared.

Besides; I don't know what to think of that slot to begin with, so I certainly won't/can't try to make you "believe" in their guilt. I want to pressure them to get them talking so I can decide whether to read them as scum or town.

My read on BeBop changed from slight town to slight scum to null to slight scum ... but I have nothing hard on him (for or against), which is why I need his replacement to talk in order to sort them out.
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Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:55 am

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In post 1852, Keyser Söze wrote:Due to personal reasons I need to replace out.

I do not have time for mafiascum this month


OUCH!

Had this been done earlier I would've probably pushed for a lynch on that spot. The problem now is I already read Keyser as a mild town lean (not a STRONG one, but not a weak one either.)

Coime on people. We need a lynch based on something better than gut feelings and/or "bc they have the largest wagon and we have less than X hours..." kind of reasoning.
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Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:04 pm

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In post 1868, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1852, Keyser Söze wrote:Due to personal reasons I need to replace out.

I do not have time for mafiascum this month


OUCH!

Had this been done earlier I would've probably pushed for a lynch on that spot. The problem now is I already read Keyser as a mild town lean (not a STRONG one, but not a weak one either.)

Coime on people. We need a lynch based on something better than gut feelings and/or "bc they have the largest wagon and we have less than X hours..." kind of reasoning.


why would you scumread someone for subbing out, and if you think they are scummy than push them.
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Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:05 pm

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Pretyt damn sure SRMP is scum here.
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Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:06 pm

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In post 1865, Nero Cain wrote:@SRMP join me on piss plox


probably will, but gonna help almost first.
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Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:14 pm

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In post 1870, RadiantCowbells wrote:Pretyt damn sure SRMP is scum here.

Me too. The post where he unvoted me felt like he was just giving up because I saw through his vote on me. I don't believe that he kept pushing me because he wanted a reaction. He was going with the crowd and kept it up because he knew it would look scummy to admit that he had no reason for voting me. He made a post earlier that he thought I forgave people and thought they were town if unvoted me. I think that's the real reason he unvoted me: to make me think he's town.
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Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:14 pm

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In post 1865, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1861, BlackStar wrote:
In post 857, pisskop wrote:Youre just cherry picking an otherwise valid point.

The meat of your case is some meta we cant even agree on and youre still defending yourself while pushing me.

Oh, I was looking at this post.


In post 1857, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 852, pisskop wrote:ABR places out all the time. He seems much happier to place out than defend himself.


In post 1124, pisskop wrote:Youre really stuck on this ABR thing, but you havent even disputed the claim that he is just an apathetic player in general


This is Piss telling me that I need to prove that ABR is apathetic in general.


Does knowing you were wrong change anything for you?

@SRMP join me on piss plox

Not really because his play is pretty solid overall
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Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:20 pm

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In post 1869, Some Random Mafia Player wrote:why would you scumread someone for subbing out, and if you think they are scummy than push them.


I think you misunderstood. I read Keyser as TOWN now, so I'm not pushing them. I don't read people as scum for subbing out, but I do read them as scum when they lurk THEN sub out. However, this is only if they had no prior content that lead me to town read them BEFORE they started lurking then subbed out.

So, if I had a null read on Keyser I would've pushed the slot to see what comes out of it. If I scum read them I would've been pushing for their LYNCH. But since I town read them it makes no sense for me to switch my vote from someone I have a null read on to someone I already have a town lean on.

P.S. Sorry if my previous phrasing wasn't clear enough. I'm not at my full concentration at this time.

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