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[GodOfWine]

unvote, VOTE: Twomz

My suspicion of pdcakes was moderate at best and this recent garbage spewing from Twomz is complete scum nonsense in my opinion. As a general rule I have to attack anyone who has advocated a no lynch, and twomz in post 383 second to last paragraph openly admitted that he "would not mind" a no-lynch. No-Lynch is a free pass for scum and I have never seen it help any town.

Post 398 also upsets me. Why are you discussing how certain play detracts from the "fun" of the game and not from the gameplay? Who would you characterize as a "posting lurker"? Where are you going with all this garbage!?

[Paradoxombie]

Para: Your last few posts do just look like trying to look busy and active. If pdcakes isn't scum and he isn't town, than what the heck is he?

Dear god ryan are you paying attention? I didn't say he wasn't town and i didn't say he wasn't scum. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR I also didn't say he WAS scum and I didn't say he WAS town.

So really I could've just said I have no opinion of pdcakes. And I'm not trying to do anything in my last few posts but reply to others. Unless you think I somehow planned to be questioned.

[Gorgon]

I see nothing odd with Twomz's rhetoric. I agree with most of it. Lynching a lurker or someone who is useless to the town is certainly better than lynching an obviously protown player who seems to be doing his best, although it's not as good as lynching scum, obv. Come endgame, the town needs active players who are willing to make an effort out of finding scum. I fail to see what's hard to understand about this. His stance towards no lynch is based on the circumstances, as he has already explained. I almost agree with this, but I think there might still be a chance to come to a concensus over a lynch ... but lynching someone with only 3 - 4 votes is certainly not ideal.

[Paradoxombie]

I see nothing odd with Twomz's rhetoric. I agree with most of it. Lynching a lurker or someone who is useless to the town is certainly better than lynching an obviously protown player who seems to be doing his best, although it's not as good as lynching scum, obv. Come endgame, the town needs active players who are willing to make an effort out of finding scum. I fail to see what's hard to understand about this. His stance towards no lynch is based on the circumstances, as he has already explained. I almost agree with this, but I think there might still be a chance to come to a concensus over a lynch ... but lynching someone with only 3 - 4 votes is certainly not ideal.

Well could you actually take a stance, or be more clear? A little too much ambiguity in your statement for my taste. Do you or do you not think a No lynch is better than lynching a player who, at deadline, has a majority, but only half or less total needed? Also why do you feel that way(logic, please)? And you said you almost agree, so I assume some part you disagree with?

[Gorgon]

Well could you actually take a stance, or be more clear? A little too much ambiguity in your statement for my taste. Do you or do you not think a No lynch is better than lynching a player who, at deadline, has a majority, but only half or less total needed? Also why do you feel that way(logic, please)? And you said you almost agree, so I assume some part you disagree with?

Well, it depends on the player and how scummy I personally find him to be. For instance, I'm starting to feel that although I am voting for you, I'm going to have some serious doubts about lynching you if more people won't get behind your lynch. I really don't think you're

that

scummy.

[Twomz]

I see nothing odd with Twomz's rhetoric. I agree with most of it. Lynching a lurker or someone who is useless to the town is certainly better than lynching an obviously protown player who seems to be doing his best, although it's not as good as lynching scum, obv. Come endgame, the town needs active players who are willing to make an effort out of finding scum. I fail to see what's hard to understand about this. His stance towards no lynch is based on the circumstances, as he has already explained. I almost agree with this, but I think there might still be a chance to come to a concensus over a lynch ... but lynching someone with only 3 - 4 votes is certainly not ideal.

Well could you actually take a stance, or be more clear? A little too much ambiguity in your statement for my taste. Do you or do you not think a No lynch is better than lynching a player who, at deadline, has a majority, but only half or less total needed? Also why do you feel that way(logic, please)? And you said you almost agree, so I assume some part you disagree with?

No one has a "majority." If someone had a majority I would not have even brought up no lynch and the day would be over. We are currently looking to lynch the person who has the most votes, under half of what a majority is. (majority is 1/2 of the town rounded up... just in case you were confused on the matter)

[theopor_COD]

Deadline is about 8 hours away.

I'll get an updated votecount done shortly

[Twomz]

Should be me and para tied with 3 votes each... Also, I am no longer going to unvote, because committing suicide is pointless and not good for the town >.<

For people who keep complaining about no lynch y'all sure tie up the votes a lot >.>

[theopor_COD]

Deadline is now about 7 hours away.

Twomz (3) - Paradoxombie, Curiouskarmadog, GodofWine
Paradoxombie (3) - Twomz, SirWario, Gorgon
pdcakes (2) - Kabenon007, Ryan
Gorgon (1) - Thin_Man

Not Voting -

Aimee
Simenon
pdcakes

AS I SAY AT DEADLINE IF THE VOTING IS TIED THERE WILL BE NO LYNCH. OTHERWISE THE PLAYER WITH THE MAJORITY DIES.

[Thin_Man]

vote Paradoxombie

I'm even more sure Twomz is town than I am bout pdcakes.

[ryan]

vote Paradoxombie

I'm even more sure Twomz is town than I am bout pdcakes.

So Para is scummier than pdcakes than?

[Thin_Man]

Yes. I've been saying that for a while.

[ryan]

Yes. I've been saying that for a while.

I was just confused why you would basically call Twonz a townie but also have a fallback with pdcakes. Seems like you are throwing names out there in hopes that you aren't looked upon as scummy for doing it.

[Thin_Man]

Yes. I've been saying that for a while.

I was just confused why you would basically call Twonz a townie but also have a fallback with pdcakes. Seems like you are throwing names out there in hopes that you aren't looked upon as scummy for doing it.

A fallback what?

I don't really get the point you're making, but I think both Pdcakes and Twomz are townies and para is scummyish. Does that answer your point?

[ryan]

YES, you first said that Twomz was more town than pdcakes, that can read either way

a) Twomz is a townie, pdcakes is scummy

b) Twomz is doing more town behavior than pdcakes

I wanted you to clarify, thank you for doing so

[curiouskarmadog]

Very Interesting. Getting close to deadline now, votes are starting to change (as i thought).

Questions i would like answers to day 1.

thinman, who do you think (at this point) para’s scum buddy(ies) could be?
GOW, who do you think (at this point) twomz’s scum buddy(ies) could be?
twomz, what are your thoughts (at this point) on myself, god of wine, and thin man?

[ryan]

Aimee: Didn't you rip on me for not contributing? We have less than 8 hours to deadline and you haven't had one meaningful post in a LONG time, maybe a little contribution?

[curiouskarmadog]

aimee is behind on all of her games (even the ones she is modding)

[SirWario]

GOW, I thought you would only vote for pdcakes or ryan at deadline. You seemed pretty confident that pdcakes was scum and as soon as the wagon deteriorated, you hop on Twomz. Any more explanation?

[theopor_COD]

4 hours 30 mins to go

[Thin_Man]

If, hypothetically, I was 100% sure at this point that Para was scum, I would likely totally write pdcakes off as scum. Gorgon would look a bit better. Kabenon slightly worse. Aimee would suggest nothing either way, possibly a very slight move to the scummy. CKD becomes slightly more suspicious. GoW slightly moreso too. SirWario would look better. I realise Ryan is voting pdcakes now, but my thoughts of him wont change much if para comes up scum. Aimee and GoW's moves are both exceptionally small ones though. If he turns up scum in the lynch, I'll be looking at either you or (more likely) Kabenon.

[ryan]

I just have a bad feeling a "No Lynch" is going to cost us winning in the end. I'm considering switching to one of the leaders as deadline looms.

[Aimee]

Sorry I'm here! I'm going to do a massive PBPA, starting now.

[SirWario]

Ryan, would you prefer Para or Twomz?

[Aimee]

Out of the two leaders right now pdcakes to me is more likely scum.

Note to self - re-read later. I think this post could be important.