Hi Jaguar,
Are you up for some discussion?
I have to say that there are some things in your last post that I have to rectify.
Jaguar wrote:Rick. Well, I think he's scum, but who knows. First he thinks that Talitha and Zero are scum together
Not quite. I just meant that
if
Talitha and Zero were scum, or should I say
if in the event
that Talitha and Zero were scum
then
Talitha and Zero would be directing the lynch. Some notes here -
means that it is a possibility, or a supposition. When the word
is used it follows that this is true only if the original supposition were correct.
These were my exact words:
Rick wrote:Talitha wrote:It would also ensure that the mafia can't direct the lynch today.
Unless of course you and Zero are scum.
If
in the event that Talitha and Zero were scum,
then
Talitha and Zero would be directing the lynch. I never said that I thought Talitha and Zero are scum together. And I have already previously mentioned this in post#25:
Rick wrote:All I did was make the point that if you and Zero were scum
(and that is a big if)
then you would be directing the lynch. Is that so unwarranted?
Nope, Jaguar you have been twisting my words on this issue. Then you go on to say:
Jaguar wrote: than he thinks that Zero and I are scum together
No, as I have already said in post #26, I was speculating.
Rick wrote:Yeah and I think I made the same point earlier in my 'unwarranted post'
:
Rick wrote:It may also indicate that Jaguar is your [Zero's] partner as Jaguar had posted before your suggestion. Then again it may not, I am only speculating.
But as I said before I was only speculating; anyway it seems that Talitha and I do agree on something.
Townies have to speculate. The only people who don’t speculate are the mafia! The mafia know who they are and they know that everyone else is a townie. The townies on the other hand do not know who the mafia are or who the other townies are. Townies have to make guesses, assumptions and speculate based on what the other players say (or don’t say).
Jaguar wrote:Now he just thinks that I am scum
This is true. I hope that I am not wrong.
Jaguar wrote:He hasn't really looked at anyone else.
This though is not true. In fact I suspect everyone, it is just that you are top of the list, and I don’t think it is wise to list all your suspicions, unless you are hoping that someone will react to them to give themselves away.
Jaguar wrote:He is trying to prove that I am lying with faulty reasoning,
Nope, although perhaps lie was too strong a word. You are top of my suspicious list because you used faulty logic. And someone with your experience should know that it was faulty logic.
Jaguar wrote:I have never random voted for a scum partner.
And I never said you did. Nor have I inferred from your statement that Zero is your partner.
What you said in post #27, was that if you were (Zero’s scum buddy) then you would definitely
not
have voted for him.
Jaguar wrote:If I'm counting right, three people have said I could be Zero's scum buddy. Well, I'm not. And if I were, I would likely not have posted right after him to avoid suspicion. I definitely would not have voted for him.
This is false logic
because
scum often vote for their buddies
. If their buddy is lynched they then draw suspicion away from themselves in later days. A newbie might not know this, but you with your experience must know that. And the more you
deny
your logic was false and try and
twist
my words the more convinced I become that you are scum.
Jaguar wrote:And I didn't lie.
Well you certainly
used false logic
and since have been
denying
that and
twisting
what I and you said.
Jaguar wrote:He also said that Zero's suggestion wasn't a good one. Why?
It is true that I said that Zero’s suggestion wasn’t a good one, but
I gave my reasons
. This is what I said:
Rick wrote:Personally I don’t think it is a good idea and worse it could be indicate that you are scum. I mean what a better way to lych someone else then to say lets lynch the person who posts x (where x is a greater number than my post). It may also indicate that Jaguar is your partner as Jaguar had posted before your suggestion. Then again it may not, I am only speculating.
Notice the word
'speculating’
, plus I also said
it may not
with reference to Jaguar/Zero being partners.
As far as I was concerned it wasn’t even worth a vote, just a fos. I also said that it has given as a topic for discussion (that was meant to be taken as a positive).
As I have already said, this
twisting
of my words just furthers my suspicions of you.
I could go on but I think that is enough.
~Rick