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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:59 am

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TylerJ wrote:Jdodge I respect ryan. I know it is hard to believe, but he has been active and contributed. He seems to be a better player than you, especially when you call him names. You replaced in this game, so you will have to earn your respect, so don't disregard others. You can't call all of his evidence bull. Nice try.
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I don't have to earn respect, respect should be a two-way street. So if he wants to avoid respecting me, then I'm damn well going to make it my point to not respect him.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:03 am

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How did I avoid earning respect? You haven't participated, you've done it in other games I'm in with you. (Do you want me to bring up the one I'm currently modding that you aren't participating in?) I called you out on valid comments without calling you an ass or whatever else crap you tossed my way.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:05 am

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can't use other games. But Jdodge, please be respectful.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:13 am

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TylerJ wrote:can't use other games. But Jdodge, please be respectful.
Actually it's not tough to figure out about his games (without me having to post a link, which I won't)
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:51 am

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I have made every concious effort to destroy any metagame against me, so try again
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:25 pm

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every concious effort doesn't mean your invinceable. This game is about finding scum, not building your ego.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 1:44 pm

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TylerJ wrote:can't use other
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games. But Jdodge, please be respectful.
Fixed.

That being said, I have seen JDodge use this strategy as scum before, and there is NO WAY I will believe that he "suddenly remembered" the game. I know for a fact that he was watching the game and not posting. I just can't prove it to everyone in the game.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 2:42 pm

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Can you at least point out a non-current game? I haven't found any yet.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:42 pm

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No, I can't. I thought I could, but I realized the person I was thinking of wasn't JDodge. Sorry. So I don't have this as a pattern for him. I still think it's pretty suspicious, though.
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:49 pm

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xyzzy wrote:
Vote Count Number Seven (Five to lynch)Setael (vampyrusddg)
TylerJ (ryan, JDodge)
ryan (DeathSauce)
JDodge (MoS)
thinktank (Setael)

Not voting: thinktank, ChocolateAttack, TylerJ


Apologies for the huge quantities of time that've passed without a VC.
Okay so I want to get this game going. We've been at day 1 for a long time and no one seems to be changing their votes, so we might stay here for quite a while longer.

So I will ask these questions. First, do you still suspect the one you are voting for? Second, do you find anyone else suspicious. If no to the first question, consider changing your vote. If yes to the second, still consider changing your vote.

I think setael is suspicious. I can't remeber voting for her so I will now.

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Note, if you do change your vote, explain why. I explained my reason in another post.
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:53 pm

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Tyler, since you chose to completely ignore my question, I'll post it again here for you.
setael wrote:So... is your full case that I've "made stuff up in order to corner people?" If so, please give examples of how I've done this.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:13 am

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Vote: JDodge
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:14 am

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Setael wrote:Tyler, since you chose to completely ignore my question, I'll post it again here for you.
setael wrote:So... is your full case that I've "made stuff up in order to corner people?" If so, please give examples of how I've done this.
Sorry I thought I anwered. Page five is a good example. You and MoS seemed to twist everything I said. And then, a few of the times you quoted thinktank, your analysis is far-fetched.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:23 am

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In regards to Setael:
I agree that it is fair to say that i am passive, you are right in your assertion that i have not been aggressivel scum hunting as say perhaps Mos and Ryan have however that is not the only way to help town. I have questioned those who i felt were suspicoous for whatever reasons, quick votes etc however I am not so quick to vote because I require more evidence to vote. Contentless? how so? I have stated my suspicions of players and questioned why others were voting for the people they did and analyze their logic. For example, if you read i asked why was Tyler under fire and stated my suspicion that under the current logic he was not scum, that is essentially the same as pointing out scum. I have been patient, and you can not condemn me for asking people to hold their votes till the then replacements got active because it is in the best interest of the town to gather as much evidence as possible and then make an informed choice.

My suspicions hold true as Tyler does not seem to be a major wagon anymore. As of my opinions on Jdodge , i think he could have handled his responses more tastefully and his logic does not seem convincing enough for a defense for lurking. However, MoS's claim to prove that he was lurking is also somewhat weak because as he admitted he cant prove it without linking. Time will tell if we gain evidence but more questions need to be asked.

Jdodge, besides the fact that the finger on you is based on lurking which we can neither completely prove nor can you completely disprove, who do you think is suspicous and why?
Armlx: What has he done to make you think he's scum.
Mizzy: Other than not scumhunt, not post much as of late other than jokes and lurk a bit?

Oman: This is known as "doing a thinktank".
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:33 am

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thinktank: Who would you like to see lynched today?
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:15 pm

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Good Q ryan. Lets get this game going.
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 1:10 am

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TylerJ: Trying to, seems we have more than a few lurkers/non participators
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:35 am

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thinktank's attempt to post content in post 483 is duly noted.

i'll give you guys that it's possible his play is due to newbishness rather than scumminess. More likely, he's newbie scum and one of those who said my case was bad and distracted from it are his scum buddy. I'll leave my vote on think for now.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:36 am

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Setael wrote:thinktank's attempt to post content in post 483 is duly noted.

i'll give you guys that it's possible his play is due to newbishness rather than scumminess. More likely, he's newbie scum and one of those who said my case was bad and distracted from it are his scum buddy. I'll leave my vote on think for now.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:44 am

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He is playing the same as he has in all the games I've been in with him. They're all still going, and the only one I know his alignment was one where he died and was the doc. In that game he was equally inactive, vague and didn't seem to pay any more attention than he does here. That seems to be his playstyle. I don't think you can metagame JDodge, and I don't have any reason to think he is scum in this game.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:22 am

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I'm not suspicious of him either. He is lurking, and lurkers aren't mostly scum, so we are left with hoping he suddenly becomes active.
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:40 am

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TylerJ wrote:I'm not suspicious of him either. He is lurking, and lurkers aren't mostly scum, so we are left with hoping he suddenly becomes active.
Lurkers aren't mostly scum? Do you have a statistic on this statement?
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:19 am

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It really strike as Jdodge revealed himself after my vote for him and i despite his post for Ryan. It like he was desperate in shifting his attention to Ryan.
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:50 am

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ryan wrote:
TylerJ wrote:I'm not suspicious of him either. He is lurking, and lurkers aren't mostly scum, so we are left with hoping he suddenly becomes active.
Lurkers aren't mostly scum? Do you have a statistic on this statement?
Sorry, that came out wrong. What I meant was not all lurkers are scum. Some are, some aren't. You can't use that as your only evidence. If something else they do is scummy, then lurking can be side evidence, but not the main case.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:52 am

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ChocolateAttack wrote:It really strike as Jdodge revealed himself after my vote for him and i despite his post for Ryan. It like he was desperate in shifting his attention to Ryan.
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