Mini 497 - Game Over

[Atticus]

Not when I was typing that. But he's not.

[joost]

Actually he is. Why do you think he isn't?

[Atticus]

Because vampyrus has never voted.

[curiouskarmadog]

you need to follow the game a little better.

vamp and tin never unvoted when I replaced.

Vote Count

:

curiouskarmadog (5): vampyrusddg, -TinVision-, Sephiroth, joost, kabenon007
-TinVision- (2): destructor, OpposedForce
kabenon007 (1): Shanba
Sephiroth (1): curiouskarmadog
Atticus (1): Aimee
vampyrusddg (1): Atticus

not voting (1): Flameaxe

Seven to lynch.

Current Player List

:

Atticus
curiouskarmadog

(replaces dusterhan)

-TinVision-
destructor
joost
OpposedForce

(replaces Knuck)

kabenon007
Shanba

(replaces Nirp)

Sephiroth
Aimee
Flameaxe

(replaces SilverPhoenix)

vampyrusddg

(replaces Nekka-Lucifer)

[joost]

How would his vote be OMGUS when he's presenting a case against you? OMGUS refers to a knee jerk action directed back at someone who just attacked you with no case behind it.
As it is Sephiroth has presented an eloquent well thought out case against you and you started off defending yourself fairly well, but it's now obvious your scum going to pieces over 1 vote, an FOS, and an old vote left by me which if I'd realised was there would probably have removed.

But at least that saves me the trouble of moving it

Here he confirms his vote.

[Atticus]

Ah, I was just skimming.

[curiouskarmadog]

and I am the guy that is close to a lynch...maybe I should have ignored this game and coast too..seems like a good tactic.

[Atticus]

Mighta worked.

[destructor]

Sorry guys, I'm really busy at the moment. I'm still very interested in this game and I'll get right into it sooner than later.

Having a quick read of the previous few posts, I think Atticus is lynch-worthy on account of him being so anti-town! He seems to have an aversion to scum-hunting to boot.

[curiouskarmadog]

right, but would scum act so blatantly disinterested?

[Atticus]

Explain what makes me anti-town, destructor. After your read, that is.

[vampyrusddg]

Explain what makes me anti-town, destructor. After your read, that is.

I'll do it for him, you've been lurking in plain sight pretty much the whole game, by which I mean you've been actively posting, but mostly with no content or suspicions which are very shaky.

[Atticus]

Not necessary. Your scumbuddy is plenty good at bringing up reasons for suspecting people.

[Shanba]

right, but would scum act so blatantly disinterested?

Yes. 100% they would.

[-TinVision-]

I've been without Internet for a few days, so I need to catch up. I'm second-guessing myself on curiouskarmadog, but I always do that. Sigh... rereading.

[destructor]

Post 79.

On Random Votes:

The point of random votes is to gain early vibes and suspicions of people. To give a truly random vote, say from random.org, you can get no reaction from the votee, and thus, no vibe or suspicion. To give a reason for a random vote is fueling this activity, increasing its productivity. To truly suspect someone for a random vote, random FoS, or random vote reason, is degrading to the information process. To

react

to the such things, however, helps the town.

I was having a skim of some of the early pages and this post stuck out to me. It makes no sense. How on earth can a player of the uninformed majority ever claim to give a 'reason' to a random vote that can be considered even slightly legitimate and so 'increase its productivity'?

The sentiment behind this post resembles TinVision's reasoning back here (280):

Not much pressure can hope to be applied, but at the beginning of the game, you take what you can get. As to your second question, it's not necessarily better. However, it's a part of an early game strategy to maximize that pressure. People pretty much ignore the first vote completely. The second vote however, as we can see clearly in this game, can get people riled. If a scum gets a vote stuck on them early that they can't be sure is random, it may shake them and lose their composure, revealing something to the town.

HOS: Atticus

Until I finish reading, my vote on Tin stands.

[Shanba]

I am disappointed in the lack of kabenon votes.

[Atticus]

Post 79.

On Random Votes:

The point of random votes is to gain early vibes and suspicions of people. To give a truly random vote, say from random.org, you can get no reaction from the votee, and thus, no vibe or suspicion. To give a reason for a random vote is fueling this activity, increasing its productivity. To truly suspect someone for a random vote, random FoS, or random vote reason, is degrading to the information process. To

react

to the such things, however, helps the town.

I was having a skim of some of the early pages and this post stuck out to me. It makes no sense. How on earth can a player of the uninformed majority ever claim to give a 'reason' to a random vote that can be considered even slightly legitimate and so 'increase its productivity'?

The sentiment behind this post resembles TinVision's reasoning back here (280):

Not much pressure can hope to be applied, but at the beginning of the game, you take what you can get. As to your second question, it's not necessarily better. However, it's a part of an early game strategy to maximize that pressure. People pretty much ignore the first vote completely. The second vote however, as we can see clearly in this game, can get people riled. If a scum gets a vote stuck on them early that they can't be sure is random, it may shake them and lose their composure, revealing something to the town.

HOS: Atticus

Until I finish reading, my vote on Tin stands.

So you think that because I, in a way, try and enforce TV's ways, that I am above the finger of suspicion level?

[JDodge]

Vote Count

:

curiouskarmadog (5): vampyrusddg, -TinVision-, Sephiroth, joost, kabenon007
-TinVision- (2): destructor, OpposedForce
kabenon007 (1): Shanba
Sephiroth (1): curiouskarmadog
Atticus (1): Aimee
vampyrusddg (1): Atticus

not voting (1): Flameaxe

Seven to lynch.

Current Player List

:

Atticus
curiouskarmadog

(replaces dusterhan)

-TinVision-
destructor
joost
OpposedForce

(replaces Knuck)

kabenon007
Shanba

(replaces Nirp)

Sephiroth
Aimee
Flameaxe

(replaces SilverPhoenix)

vampyrusddg

(replaces Nekka-Lucifer)

Prodding kabenon, Sephiroth, Aimee and Flameaxe.

In addition I am going to set a

deadline

for 3:30 PM EDT, November 9th.

[kabenon007]

Hey, sorry about my absence. I really have no excuse, I just forgot to check on this one. Um... my vote on CKD still stands, he hasn't defended himself well enough IMO.

[curiouskarmadog]

Hey, sorry about my absence. I really have no excuse, I just forgot to check on this one. Um... my vote on CKD still stands, he hasn't defended himself well enough IMO.

lol, have you presented a case?

look I am just a vanilla townie..so I would rather you lynch me than a power role..that being said, I would rather you lynch scum instead of me...but do what you got to do...maybe if I am dead you might look at Seph and joost a little more closely...

[vampyrusddg]

maybe if I am dead you might look at Seph and joost a little more closely...

no offense CKD, but if we did lynch you and it proved your VT claim then why would we be any more inclined to believe you? It would just prove that you knew as little as every other VT/non-investigative town role in this game. All it would prove is that there was no mallicious intent behind your accusations

[joost]

I'll be away till Wednesday.

I'll keep my vote on CKD.

[curiouskarmadog]

maybe if I am dead you might look at Seph and joost a little more closely...

no offense CKD, but if we did lynch you and it proved your VT claim then why would we be any more inclined to believe you? It would just prove that you knew as little as every other VT/non-investigative town role in this game. All it would prove is that there was no mallicious intent behind your accusations

have you seriously looked at joost and Seph? IF so, what do you think my case is against them?

[curiouskarmadog]

I'll be away till Wednesday.

I'll keep my vote on CKD.

of course you will, myabe if you get lucky, I get hung