New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[Something_Smart]

Mod: I'll be V/LA until Monday. I should still have some access though.

[Performer]

My stance stays the same against Nero. So please - continue to entertain us with your falsifications. Or you can just gracefully accept your defeat.

[RachMarie]

Perf I totally missed the soft claim. Still he needed to hard claim not just soft claim

I will claim now after all I am having doubt about Nero now big doubt. Not just the whole jk thing

but he has stated he had a town read on me so why on earth would town jk Nero jk me on any night while TOWN reading me.

On top of that I have trouble believing in a 3 player maf team with an ascetic and an sk being balanced with all the PR flips plus MY PR

Im the reason we have had only ONE death past few nights.

I am town bulletproof and I am definitely not an SK Pretty sure the SK is investigation immune with both a tracker and a backup tracker claims.

I did not want to claim because mine is not X shot its continuous, but by now both the maf team and the sk have tried to kill me and it has failed on them. I doubt it was the same person every time that tried to shoot me at night.

This is the hammer since he has already claimed.

VOTE: Nero

[Killthestory]

OH THAT MAKES SENSE

If you were attacked then Slandaar couldn't have been stopped from making the kill since the kills would go through, they just wouldn't kill.

Of course that'd be taking Nero's claim as true which it's not, but it still makes sense that BP would stop kills.

[Axl_Rose]

VC 6.03

Killthestory (0)-

Performer (0)-

hebichan (0)-

Firebringer (0)-

Rachmarie (0)-

Slandaar (1)-

Nero Cain

Nero Cain (5)-

Killthestory, Performer Firebringer, Slandaar, Rachmarie

LYNCHED

Something_Smart (0)-

Not Voting (2)-

hebichan, Something_Smart

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-07-05 20:00:00) - Jul 5th 19:00 GMT

[Axl_Rose]

Nero Cain

was lynched, he was[/color]

Spoiler:

Mafia Roleblocker

Deadline is (expired on 2016-06-26 23:00:00)

[Axl_Rose]

As we have a player who is V/LA, I am requiring them to check in with me regardless of their role, so day will not begin until I have heard from Something_Smart

[Axl_Rose]

Something_Smart was killed Night 6

Spoiler: He was a

Mafia BP Enabler

Kill The Story was killed Night 6

Spoiler: He was a

Town Vigilante

[Axl_Rose]

VC 7.00

Performer (0)-

hebichan (0)-

Firebringer (0)-

RachMarie (0)-

Slandaar (0)-

Not Voting (5)-

Performer, hebichan, Firebringer, RachMarie, Slandaar

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-07-05 20:00:00) - Jul 5th 19:00 GMT

[Firebringer]

So 1 more mafia. Seems legit:
VOTE: RachMarie
Pretty much it was between rach and hebichan, but I think scum were also trying to push that in desperation yesterday to win.

Slandaar and Performer likely town.
So that means its hebi or rach and because how nero and ss acted towards rach tomorrow (I think they straight were going for a win), it means its rach.

[RachMarie]

Um yeah they knew I was town duh, at least one of them probably shot at me and found out I was town,

Are you the sk Fire because right now you sure seem like it,

The mafia team is gone it is now the sk, and my being the town bp helped cut down on deaths most of the game so yeah try again.

[RachMarie]

VOTE: Fire

Pretty sure he is the sk

Slan is in my town pile along with heb and perf though a weaker town read, still by PoE is town.

We got the mafia team, let's get the SK and win the game finally.

[Firebringer]

I am 90% sure you just scumtelled all over the game right now.
First of you imply that I can't possibly be mafia with that post asking me if I am sk, which again asking a dumb question like that. Kind of stupid/scummy (I can show you recent game I did where I was scum and did just that)

Then you imply the scum team is 100% gone. How would you know that? At all. Literally.
Then you claim a role that lets face it, likely the SK has against mafia.

[RachMarie]

3 maf plus 1 sk fits the night kills.

4 maf plus 1 sk would be too unbalanced against town, and I was not the only one to point that out.

the only way we could have had 3 night kills was with both a town vig and a sk.

Yes SOMETIMES the SK is bp, but sometimes it is investigation immune.

With a tracker, and a JOAT, it makes much more sense for investigation immune

Clearly Nero was pushing the SK being BP because he tried to shoot me and it failed because I am town BP. He knew that Kill planned on killing SS, he knew the only way to get rid of me was to lynch me. He knew I was on the right track with the balance numbers. He did not want town to win. He knew his claim would get me to claim. He knows me well.

[Firebringer]

Well if you are right that all the mafia are dead, its still between you and hebi for SK.
Hebichan looks worse for SK to be honest, you can see she had primary survival motivations in her ISO.

LOL, I am laughing at this if you are really town in this scenario.

[RachMarie]

Of course as the SK you are laughing because you feel you have won the game.

[Firebringer]

You even think about your posts before post?
if I am SK, if you are SK, if anyone is SK. and there is zero mafia left. They have to mislynch kill, and then win in LYLO..

[hebichan]

I knew SS was friggin scum...

wasnt scum trying to get slandaar killed, maybe hes bulletproof?

[RachMarie]

the fact that Slan is no killing while my slot has been targeting is what made me believe he's scum.

I can confirm that I haven't been killing anyone during the night.

(Sorry been busy promise I will catch up tomorrow)

You are basing your idea that Slan is also BP because of what Nero who flipped SCUM said?

Nero who was trying to portray me as the SK

Heb I seriously doubt Slan is BP Unless you are trying to say the SK is BP and not II?
And that Slan is the SK? Is that what you are suggesting?

[hebichan]

the fact that Slan is no killing while my slot has been targeting is what made me believe he's scum.

I can confirm that I haven't been killing anyone during the night.

(Sorry been busy promise I will catch up tomorrow)

You are basing your idea that Slan is also BP because of what Nero who flipped SCUM said?

Nero who was trying to portray me as the SK

Heb I seriously doubt Slan is BP Unless you are trying to say the SK is BP and not II?
And that Slan is the SK? Is that what you are suggesting?

I just thought Slandaar was just an out of place suggestion with how that day went, that perhaps scum wanted to get towncred by lyching the SK and get rid of his competition at the same time.

[Performer]

WOW.

It was not plausible to me that there exists a 4-man scum team with 1 SK against 5 PRs. As we all saw, KTS and my plan was to end Nero & SS in the 6th phase, which should've ended the game . I believed they were the final scum & SK. Unfortunately that isn't the case.

Huge thanks to KTS for following through with the plan - read the setup from the mod and you will be shocked at what my role is . I promise you that .

Anyway, SS's flip further explains his irrational defense of Nero after I started pushing for KAAG to die, a few days ago.
Fire's ISO contains plenty of AtE , which is making me rethink his slot . Based on SS's flip, if Fire were SK, it makes sense that Rach, hebi, and SS pushed him . His votes on me and awkward criticizing, despite my meta with him - if he is SK, this makes sense.
Hebi's asking of me to investigate her on d6 before the flips, makes me more confident in hebi.
Rach's continued suspicion of me , even adding that I'm a "weaker townread ," makes me suspect that Rach could be SK as well. Having the Bp ability as an SK, isn't atypical in normal & balanced games.

It's got to be between Fire & Rach.

My analysis of night 6 is that KTS and SS targeted one another, and that the SK did a no kill. This is going to be tough.

This is the most challenging PR game I have ever played, and I have to say...scum team made it a challenge, which meant it was fun - I commend you guys for that. Otherwise it'd be boring.

[Performer]

VOTE: RachMarie

Fire went nowhere.

[RachMarie]

Perf

I am not lying about my claim and the night kills support my claim uggh.

Do you really think I would have hammered Nero like that instead of pushing my read on Fire if I were SK seriously? No I would have lurked long enough for someone else to hammer.

I am town BP I am the reason we had nights without more kills.

That is why Kill said oh that makes sense just before the game was locked. Or why do you think he said that about my semi counter claim of Nero and my hammering Nero when I realized he was claiming something that did not fit, especially since he said he jked me as part of his claim. I hammered him because I realized he was lying about his claim partly because I knew I was town BP. I could have just hammered him and said oh jk does not fit.

I claimed at that point so you all knew I was town, instead you are letting fire convince you otherwise.

Perf it is not a crime to be a weaker town read, I just do not see Slan as the SK I see fire as the SK. I was scum reading fire before the business with Nero. So this is not OMGUS.

The only time I have been sk as been part of an SK team and we were sweating losing so many of the mafia team so soon. I also I will admit was lurky majorly in that game, why because of RL stuff mostly, but in the end it did help along with having a great partner in Way.

I just hope tomorrow when you read my flip as town bp, you lynch fire with fire. If my play which has helped peg several players in this game, including ozguin, hammering nero, and being wrong on some players can't convince you I am town, I don't know what will.

I hope now you understand why I was concerned about mass claiming, I believed Kill about his x shot vigging. So I thought I was the remaining non x shot PR town had, and I knew that my PR had prevented kills. Like I said to Heb, don't let Nero's comments convince you that I am the sk when I am not.

[Performer]

There's something else - your claim clashes with my 2nd role. I wouldn't put you at L-1 unless I thought this claim didn't fully fit. You may be Bp but I don't think you're town, with the information I've gathered. This includes the setup and what my roles are.

[RachMarie]

Something is wrong with your figuring then

I am BP and I am town.

With both a tracker and a backup tracker it makes FAR more sense for the SK to be II not BP.

Part of the reason I had you as a weaker town read was I forgot you were the back up tracker til I reread your ISO to figure out what you meant by two part claim. That is my mistake.

So yeah its the other way around, you are a stronger town read, uggh I hate making mistakes like that. But then I ignored this game during the night phase to focus on other games in day phase. I guess I should have reread things instead of letting fire get to me. Of course he wants to get to me he may not be maf scum but he is still scum.

My vote stands.

BTW Perf since you were keeping track of claims, did we ever get a claim from Fire?