Food Fight Mafia - WHO OWNS THE SCHOOL???

[JordanA24]

i think it might be wise to stop throwing food at Sir T for now. He's certainly not town, but he could easily be a Jester, or scum with a PR.
Its probably best if we simply ignore him for now.

Pardon? Why should we simply ignore him if he could easily be scum, something you said is possible in your post?

i'm getting blatant Jester vibes from him, and unsurprisingly, i'm pretty reluctant to go against my gut and get humiliated by Sir T. :p
By 'ignore him' i mean ignore his voting patterns, and comments, because they aren't helping atall, and for my part, they are very distracting. Now, he could well be scum, and could be the play today, but i think we should look in other directions aswell, as we aren't deadlined.

BM

Ah, I get you, fair enough. Personally, his Jester vibes are so obvious that I think he's faking it, but you're right, we shouldn't just focus on him.

[Skruffs]

This might be taken the wrong way, but... A jester?

I don't see how a jester would be equivalent in this game. Jesters win by getting lynched. Therefore a jester will almost certainly win in such a situation as this, where the only mechanic (that we know of) for eliminating players is by throwing food at them.

Bm, why are you assuming someone is more likely a jester than whateverthe name of the scumgroup is? I guess I am saying that someone would only think that there might be jesters if they knew about some sort of way to eliminate players other than lynching.

I'm basically saying I think you just botched up.

[Skruffs]

Also: BM being afraid of being humiliated??? Scum tell.

wedge french fry up BM's nostril

wedge french fry up BM's other nostril

[JordanA24]

This might be taken the wrong way, but... A jester?

I don't see how a jester would be equivalent in this game. Jesters win by getting lynched. Therefore a jester will almost certainly win in such a situation as this, where the only mechanic (that we know of) for eliminating players is by throwing food at them.

Bm, why are you assuming someone is more likely a jester than whateverthe name of the scumgroup is? I guess I am saying that someone would only think that there might be jesters if they knew about some sort of way to eliminate players other than lynching.

I'm basically saying I think you just botched up.

Are you saying that you think there might not be Night Kills in this game?

[Battle Mage]

This might be taken the wrong way, but... A jester?

I don't see how a jester would be equivalent in this game. Jesters win by getting lynched. Therefore a jester will almost certainly win in such a situation as this, where the only mechanic (that we know of) for eliminating players is by throwing food at them.

Bm, why are you assuming someone is more likely a jester than whateverthe name of the scumgroup is? I guess I am saying that someone would only think that there might be jesters if they knew about some sort of way to eliminate players other than lynching.

I'm basically saying I think you just botched up.

Are you saying that you think there might not be Night Kills in this game?

good call Jordan. Second this question, and ask another:

If you dont think Sir T is a Jester, why have you not cast your food at him?
I'm getting defensive scumbuddy vibes here.

BM

[JordanA24]

This might be taken the wrong way, but... A jester?

I don't see how a jester would be equivalent in this game. Jesters win by getting lynched. Therefore a jester will almost certainly win in such a situation as this, where the only mechanic (that we know of) for eliminating players is by throwing food at them.

Bm, why are you assuming someone is more likely a jester than whateverthe name of the scumgroup is? I guess I am saying that someone would only think that there might be jesters if they knew about some sort of way to eliminate players other than lynching.

I'm basically saying I think you just botched up.

Are you saying that you think there might not be Night Kills in this game?

good call Jordan. Second this question, and ask another:

If you dont think Sir T is a Jester, why have you not cast your food at him?
I'm getting defensive scumbuddy vibes here.

BM

I didn't see Skruffs say that he was suspicious of Sir T either.

[Battle Mage]

^exactly. analysis of Sir T from Skruffs would be appreciated.

[Sir Tornado]

Whoever thinks I am jester is scummy.

Japanese word of the hour:

Ikebana: A flower arrangement.

I'd appreciate if someone gave me Japanese words for:

1) Fools
2) Scum (I used yakuza earlier, but that is very generic)
3) Jester

So I can include it better without being distractive.

[JordanA24]

^exactly. analysis of Sir T from Skruffs would be appreciated.

No, by that, I meant that Skruffs didn't say he was suspicious of Sir T, so why did you ask him why he didn't throw any food at him?

[foolinc]

This might be taken the wrong way, but... A jester?

I don't see how a jester would be equivalent in this game. Jesters win by getting lynched. Therefore a jester will almost certainly win in such a situation as this, where the only mechanic (that we know of) for eliminating players is by throwing food at them.

Bm, why are you assuming someone is more likely a jester than whateverthe name of the scumgroup is? I guess I am saying that someone would only think that there might be jesters if they knew about some sort of way to eliminate players other than lynching.

I'm basically saying I think you just botched up.

I'm not sure if he's a jester, but I wouldn't sure to count out the possibility of one being in the game. It is a food fight and there is a good possibility one of the kids wants to get dirty (he wants to go home, he likes getting getting dirty, etc).

Though I do have to say that the possibility of us not having a scum group is higher in this game than in others, but it there was no scumgroup then it wouldn't be mafia, it would be survivor.

[Sir Tornado]

I am now almost positive BM is yakuza btw. The only thing nagging me is... that he is BM.

[Sir Tornado]

Ok, BM, here's a question for you:

What is your alignment?

NO ONE ELSE ANSWER THIS.

*goes back to reading manga*

[Sir Tornado]

This might be taken the wrong way, but... A jester?

I don't see how a jester would be equivalent in this game. Jesters win by getting lynched. Therefore a jester will almost certainly win in such a situation as this, where the only mechanic (that we know of) for eliminating players is by throwing food at them.

Bm, why are you assuming someone is more likely a jester than whateverthe name of the scumgroup is? I guess I am saying that someone would only think that there might be jesters if they knew about some sort of way to eliminate players other than lynching.

I'm basically saying I think you just botched up.

Are you saying that you think there might not be Night Kills in this game?

good call Jordan. Second this question, and ask another:

If you dont think Sir T is a Jester, why have you not cast your food at him?
I'm getting defensive scumbuddy vibes here.

BM

This post is ridiculous.

You were first claiming that I am a jester. Then, Skruffs writes a post saying how I cannot be a jester, after which you accuse him of being my scumbuddy?

Does anyone even get what BM-sans is trying to say here?

A simple 3 step questionaire might help you convey your thoughts better

:arrow: Am I a Jester or not?
:arrow: Do Jesters have scumbuddies? If they do not, who has scumbuddies?
:arrow: Can a person be a scum and a jester at once?

[Yamahako]

Sir Tornado, I'd like to give you some help if I could.

Does anyone even get what

BM-sans

is trying to say here?

San is a Japanese title similar to "Mister" or "Misses". Sans is a french word meaning without. They do sound similar, but they aren't the same thing.

For more helpful information regarding Japanese titles, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_titles

In either case, you need to defend your positions with reasoning. Anything less is scummy.

BM, it seems like you aren't thinking enough before you post some of your posts are contradictory and semi-confusing. Just a heads up.

[Battle Mage]

^exactly. analysis of Sir T from Skruffs would be appreciated.

No, by that, I meant that Skruffs didn't say he was suspicious of Sir T, so why did you ask him why he didn't throw any food at him?

Well Skruffs is arguing the point that Sir T is unlikely to be a Jester, hence i was asking Skruffs what he thought of Sir T's behaviour, in the hope that i could get a different perspective on it.

[Battle Mage]

This might be taken the wrong way, but... A jester?

I don't see how a jester would be equivalent in this game. Jesters win by getting lynched. Therefore a jester will almost certainly win in such a situation as this, where the only mechanic (that we know of) for eliminating players is by throwing food at them.

Bm, why are you assuming someone is more likely a jester than whateverthe name of the scumgroup is? I guess I am saying that someone would only think that there might be jesters if they knew about some sort of way to eliminate players other than lynching.

I'm basically saying I think you just botched up.

Are you saying that you think there might not be Night Kills in this game?

good call Jordan. Second this question, and ask another:

If you dont think Sir T is a Jester, why have you not cast your food at him?
I'm getting defensive scumbuddy vibes here.

BM

This post is ridiculous.

You were first claiming that I am a jester. Then, Skruffs writes a post saying how I cannot be a jester, after which you accuse him of being my scumbuddy?

Does anyone even get what BM-sans is trying to say here?

A simple 3 step questionaire might help you convey your thoughts better

:arrow: Am I a Jester or not?
:arrow: Do Jesters have scumbuddies? If they do not, who has scumbuddies?
:arrow: Can a person be a scum and a jester at once?

wow, a triple post from Sir T, and i'm struggling to find something that is actually worth my time responding to. I'll choose this post.

Let me try and clarify this for everyone:
I think Sir T could be a Jester.
I am positive that he is either Jester or Mafia.
Skruffs came in and explained why he didn't think Jester was a viable option.
As such, i am wondering what alternative he can see, other than scum, and excluding the possibility that he thinks Sir T is just immensely unhelpful town, i am curious as to why he hasn't upped the pressure, as would reflect his alleged beliefs.

Hell, maybe Yamahako is right, and i'm not making sense. The problem is, from where i am sitting, my comments are completely logical. I think i might need to take a break from this game, but first, i'd like to hear from Skruffs.

BM

[JordanA24]

^exactly. analysis of Sir T from Skruffs would be appreciated.

No, by that, I meant that Skruffs didn't say he was suspicious of Sir T, so why did you ask him why he didn't throw any food at him?

Well Skruffs is arguing the point that Sir T is unlikely to be a Jester, hence i was asking Skruffs what he thought of Sir T's behaviour, in the hope that i could get a different perspective on it.

Ah, that makes sense.

I agree with you, Sir T is either Jester or scum, and my gut says scum.

[JDodge]

Jester is ridiculous in this setup. Seriously, that is a ludicrous accusation in a setup where you

cannot

undo votes, and considering what my soda bottle did to Yama, I'd say they'd need very little help to kill themselves.

[JordanA24]

Jester is ridiculous in this setup. Seriously, that is a ludicrous accusation in a setup where you

cannot

undo votes, and considering what my soda bottle did to Yama, I'd say they'd need very little help to kill themselves.

QFT.

[Yamahako]

Jester is ridiculous in this setup. Seriously, that is a ludicrous accusation in a setup where you

cannot

undo votes, and considering what my soda bottle did to Yama, I'd say they'd need very little help to kill themselves.

Good posting!

[Tarhalindur]

i think it might be wise to stop throwing food at Sir T for now. He's certainly not town, but he could easily be a Jester, or scum with a PR.
Its probably best if we simply ignore him for now.

Pardon? Why should we simply ignore him if he could easily be scum, something you said is possible in your post?

i'm getting blatant Jester vibes from him, and unsurprisingly, i'm pretty reluctant to go against my gut and get humiliated by Sir T. :p
By 'ignore him' i mean ignore his voting patterns, and comments, because they aren't helping atall, and for my part, they are very distracting. Now, he could well be scum, and could be the play today, but i think we should look in other directions aswell, as we aren't deadlined.

BM

Not only is it unlikely that there is a Jester in this setup, but it's also irrelevant. Town shouldn't care about a Jester unless it's clear that lynching a Jester ends the game.

[Yamahako]

What is it with EVERY game I'm in people thinking there's a jester?

[Sir Tornado]

BM spectacularly dodged the question on his alignment...

In other news, Everton's Joel Lescott was denied a penalty when Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher threw a

sumo wrestling

tackle at him inside the penalty box by refree Mark Clattenburg during the recent Merseyside derby.

I agree about the jester not being present. I also think the scum are likely to consider the possibility of a jester.

A townie is likely to think "he's scum". A scum would go through a bit different thought process. First, the scum would think I am an easy lynch. Then, they would begin to thin I am looking too scummy, and THEN they would think I am a jester due to my past history as town and scum, and the fact that they know I am not a scum.

BM had almost the same thought pattern.

[ckillor]

i have never played a game with a jester before. do they always win and end a game by dieing? or is it like they come in first, the the mafia is a team, the town is a team and maybe like a sibling team?

[Skruffs]

Ok. Hmm.

Here's what happened:
Jordan: "Hey Sir T, explain yourself or I will THROW DE FUD!"
Sir T: "Ok, THROW DE FUD!"
Jordan: "Wow are you a JESTER? *throws food*
Sir T: "Me Jester? Pshaw! Who else wants to THROW DE FUD?"
VItR: "Sir T is strange!"

Basically it's been fluff up to there, but I wanted to start it from when the Jester thing first came up.

Now, after that, and before I responded, this is what BM said abuot SirT (in alphabetical order).

By 'ignore him' i mean ignore his voting patterns, and comments, because they aren't helping at all, and for my part, they are very distracting.
He's certainly not town, but he could easily be a Jester, or scum with a PR.
I think we should look in other directions aswell, as we aren't deadlined.
i think it might be wise to stop throwing food at Sir T for now.
Its probably best if we simply ignore him for now.
i'm getting blatant Jester vibes from him
Now, he could well be scum, and could be the play today
unsurprisingly, i'm pretty reluctant to go against my gut and get humiliated by Sir T.


Summarized:
Sir T IS most likely scum, and unhelpful. However, he might be a JESTER, so we don't want to LYNCH him. That would suck!! Let's just ignore him, heh heh.

WHich would be a Perfect suggestion for scum. The thing that really got my attention is that he would jsut assume there is a jester out of no where, and THEN say that this person who is acting scummy in his eyes is PROBABLY IT. ???

Then, after I call him on that, by saying there's not likely a jester in this game, he says:
"If you dont think Sir T is a Jester, why have you not cast your food at him?
I'm getting defensive scumbuddy vibes here. "

Now my previous post really had nothing to do with SirT's role, as much as it was BM's speculation abuot that role, quasi defending and distancing of SirT, etc. But all of a sudden it's like BM tries to flip everything around. Now he's sayign that I must be his scum buddy, defending him. (Although in actually that is the opposite of what I Was doing)

See that's what really gets me - He says "Leave SirT alone, he's scummy because he's a JESTER" and when I say "There's probably no Jester", he says "O RLY? YOU ARE SCUM WITH HIM THEM!"


All through it BM has maintained that Sir T is scum, but now instead of trying to defend Sir T one way, he tries to blatantly deflect attention away from him and onto me.


He's tried to salvage himself by saying he was just asking me what my opinion of Sir T is, bu that's still really just trying to move on from the initial post where he got Caught. He's seemed to indicate that I have said anything about SirT's helpfulness or un-helpfullness in the game, when in fact, Jordan was the one who first suggested Jester, and BM just kinda grabbed that and ran.


Sidenote re: Jordan - he immediately agreed with JDodge that a jester is completely unlikely, after first broaching the subject, and in the post before that, saying that SirT is either a jester or mafia. Again, why would you assume someone is a jester?
This is back tracking, right?



Mostly, BM is being very self conscious regarding this whole manner, which I have never seen before.

Also: BM, a better accusation would have been to say that I was mafia and was trying to get rid of the idea of SirT being a jester so that I could help a townie get lynched. However, you seem to know/feel very strongly that SirT is mafia already, and for some reason have been trying to push attention away from him, and I think that 'knowledge' clouded your vision when you accused me of being a defensive scumbuddy to him.