Mini 520 - Triumvirate Mafia - ABANDONED

[skitzer]

unvote.

I think we are past the random voting stage.

[Shanba]

Vote Count which is coming after the first and thus is second:
3: Sir Tornado

(Miztef, YuanTi, MoS)

2: TheNinthLayer

(Sir Tornado, FlyingHawk)

1: somestrangeflea

(phate)

1: YuanTi

(FaerieLord)

1: skitzer

(somestrangeflea)

1: Miztef

(Spider Jerusalem)

1: Spider Jerusalem

(someone2)

Not voting: skitzer, TheNinthLayer

[Phate]

Unvote

Yes, I think so too.

[Spider Jerusalem]

Hmm... still not much to go on, however I can come up with a few comments at least.

Unvote, Vote: Sir Tornado

Interesting that you get on SSF's case for dice voting but don't even mention me. Trying to distance from your scumbuddy early?

I actually think this approach supports his statement that he was only trying to make a point about the dice based voting. He had already posted about it before you dice voted, so there was no need to harp on it again.
He has stated that "Well, it isn't scummy, actually. I voted you to drill it into you that random voting using a dice is bad" where you = SSF in that sentance. So there seems little reason for him to target every dice voter.

You could certainly argue that using a vote like this isn't the wisest move, but he seems consistent about his reasoning and it occurred early enough in the game that I don't see any real harm, or any scummyness.

@Yuan Ti: a serious problem with your plan as I see it is that to my understanding the cop power could land on Mafia as well as Town. So we aren't just going to be able to trust every cop even if there is no counterclaim.

This I think is an overall important point that any of the powers can end up on any player, not just town. So we have to always keep that in mind when analyzing info that may come from the various roles.

Also

Unvote

my random vote isn't doing much at this point no need for it to be out there.

[FaerieLord]

unvote

[Sir Tornado]

I'll unvote my random vote when the votee (NinthLayer) shows up.

Spider Jerusalem clearly wins the thread.

[someone2]

I don't have a lot of things to say now, but I'll unvote cause Spider Jerusalem has mentionned some good points and because random voting is over.

unvote

I just have a question about the game. What would happen if the roleblocker blocks the roleblocker Triumvirate?

[YuanTi]

Unvote

The Triumvirate member doesn't target anybody, the power is assigned randomly. So the block does nothing. (Unless they got Cop/Doc)

[Flyinghawk]

Unvote

I have a useless random vote here, so I'm unvoting for lack of reason.

And I picked up a prod mod, sorry for the lack of activity.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Interesting that you get on SSF's case for dice voting but don't even mention me. Trying to distance from your scumbuddy early?

That vote was to make a point, not to necessarily call SSF scummy due to his rolling dice (I did say so when I unvoted).

I wanted to get it across to SSF that using dice to start the game is not a very good idea. The vote on him was to draw his attention to it, because I have found that people pay more attention to what you are saying if you vote them.

Calling that "distancing" from SSF was a bit strange MoS. Why the heck would I specifically say that what he did was not scummy in my next post if I was trying to distance from him?

Distancing does not require you to call one scummy. The fact that you are addressing him and questioning his actions is enough. My point is, my vote after your vote on SSF clearly showed that I had not read your post (because I never read the thread before I do my dice vote, I've even done it upon replacing into a large game before). However, you did not even mention me or address my actions, instead focusing your questioning/comments on SSF.

[Sir Tornado]

Distancing does not require you to call one scummy. The fact that you are addressing him and questioning his actions is enough. My point is, my vote after your vote on SSF clearly showed that I had not read your post (because I never read the thread before I do my dice vote, I've even done it upon replacing into a large game before). However, you did not even mention me or address my actions, instead focusing your questioning/comments on SSF.

So, by your logic, if I say Person A is town, but still ask him why he's done something, it is distancing? Because, technically, in doing so, I am:

1) Not calling him scummy
2) Addressing him
3) Questioning his actions

[somestrangeflea]

Apologies for recent inactivity. It's been a frantic weekend, and I'm going on an away for a few days. No idea how active I can be when I'm gone, but I'll be back on Friday.

If I need to be replaced, so be it...

[Phate]

I agree with SirT. Calling that distancing is a stretch. And since I'm addressing you and questioning your actions (or suspicions, but you catch my drift), by your definition, I'm distancing. So I guess that means I'll see you tonight, scumbuddy?

[skitzer]

Deary me, I seem to have started an random unvote chain.

That was weird.

[YuanTi]

There seems to be little point on calling distancing this early in the game. If it continues later then we can address it. If not then we'll leave it.

Also Spider Jerusalem is right about my plan. I forgot the mafia could get it.

I'm going to

Vote: Mastermind of Sin

officially because his distancing thing seems phoney. More to stir up action though.

[Miztef]

this game is really stalling. I have seen pretty much no evidence against anyone... now that I think of it, usually I do something "out there" just to get some accusations going. That usually ends up bad for me though .

The whole distancing stuff... basically WIFOM at this time. Even if it's not WIFOM, it's definitely not strong evidence.

That's the first time I ever say a massive unvote train. Amusing to say the least, although nothing substantial to say of it.

I think YuanTi's vote is misplaced, but not necessary scummy. Anything that moves this game forward is welcome right now.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Distancing does not require you to call one scummy. The fact that you are addressing him and questioning his actions is enough. My point is, my vote after your vote on SSF clearly showed that I had not read your post (because I never read the thread before I do my dice vote, I've even done it upon replacing into a large game before). However, you did not even mention me or address my actions, instead focusing your questioning/comments on SSF.

So, by your logic, if I say Person A is town, but still ask him why he's done something, it is distancing? Because, technically, in doing so, I am:

1) Not calling him scummy
2) Addressing him
3) Questioning his actions

It's not distancing in and of itself, though. But it is

possible

distancing when you take the above action and completely ignore someone

who did the exact same thing you were questioning person A about

.

[Sir Tornado]

It's not distancing in and of itself, though. But it is possible distancing when you take the above action and completely ignore someone who did the exact same thing you were questioning person A about.

So, you want me to give the same ICish gameplay advice to everyone in the same game like a broken record player?

[YuanTi]

*Push* we need activity which isn't all this phoney Distancing stuff.

Anyone got any super fun suggestions?

[Shanba]

spurgistan replaces TheNinthLayer

[skitzer]

In spirit of the recent SA immigration: Truth or dare, YuanTi?

[YuanTi]

Definitely a Dare.

Spurgistan I expect a read through and a full analysis on everyones scummy actions by the end of the day.

(If you really need that long.)

[YuanTi]

EBWODP - I forgot a funny smilie to imply a joke.

Here's one

[skitzer]

Vote for Shanba.

Oooh. Let me see you try that.

[spurgistan]

Seriously. At least I don't have to come in making crazy role-claims to get the heat off my back like last time I replaced. Well, I read through, and besides not finding any dumb things my former self said that require explanation (or anything he said, period) the only possible lead I got is MoS getting angry at Tornado for not admonishing him over the use of dice votes