Gistou (Over!)

[Titus]

but there are better d1 lynches in Kuroi or Dave or Exp and maaaaaybe Cephir.

Cephrir I could do but I feel awkward because he's maybe drawn town once when we've played together, and my scumread is there due to his awkward distancing from Cane and preflip is bad.

Kuroi would be a policy compromise.

[KuroiXHF]

but there are better d1 lynches in Kuroi or Dave or Exp and maaaaaybe Cephir.

Oh, this has got to be good.

[Almost50]

I don't have the heart to get invested again after what happened in Varsoon's game.

Here's a recent example of a game where I didn't get invested as town: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=66574

That was probably after Saga too.

But I literally need you here, at least until I've confirmed the slot alignment, but maybe even beyond that point.

[No Retreat]

a50 is a claimed PGO type role (atleast that's my impression) thus he can't? be killed at night so there's scum motivation in wanting him lynched is what he's saying.

Also a50 is just a vi so take his posts with a

grain

teaspoon

tablespoon

cup of salt.

[Luna Fox]

His claim's a double edged sword, because night active roles cant confirm his alignment either.

[Heartless]

I know Anti doesn't like it, but I think Almost50

might

just be badposting.

But honestly, with A50's attitude, I don't feel any inclination to stop what Anti's doing.

[Titus]

a50 is a claimed PGO type role (atleast that's my impression) thus he can't? be killed at night so there's scum motivation in wanting him lynched is what he's saying.

Also a50 is just a vi so take his posts with a

grain

teaspoon

tablespoon

cup of salt.

PR in general. I don't think PGO is exactly it, but highly possible.

[No Retreat]

His claim's a double edged sword, because night active roles cant confirm his alignment either.

*twitch twitch twitch*

[Luna Fox]

I'm not dismissing the possibility of him having a good desire with his claim, i just cant dismiss the possibility of him trying to shoo away investigative type roles, so i view that as null.

The readslist possibly being faked is something i agree with dave on when he brought it up, which reversed my read there, hence the sheeping.

[Almost50]

@Cakez:

Spoiler:

off the top of my head:

Nosferatu is still a light scum read.

Thinking Mathblade could be Scum as well.

Kinda like Titus as Town with their later content.

There was a post by Copper the pinged me, but forgot what it was.

Don't know about your slot yet.

Heartless is prolly Town, even though I don't like the "meh" vote they placed on us.

Don't know about C+A.

Still like No Result or whatever their name is for Town.

Don't like Salt Squads push on me.

The rest I'm just not sure of at all.

At this rate, I don't think I'll have enough trivia.

Re-runs are always welcome

So you guys decided to beat the record of the # of posts in pregame? The funny thing is Dunn isn't even in this game!

Catching up is taking quite sometime even though I have obviously mostly skimmed up to this point. Only getting the gist of it all.

What I did notice thus far is:

1- Expedience is disliked by many for some reason that I have yet to research.
2- Cane + Able are being a nag.
3- BBMolla made some weird claim that I'm not buying.
4- Luna is probably on my side (not completely sure though)
5- Titus is probably town too.
6- I had foreseen trouble coming my way from the Stormblade trio before the pre-game phase, but I get the feeling we could be friends (I'd rather have confirmation on this from ABR though, bc I'm having trouble trusting Nahdia)
7- Other people I won't trust until I see evidence they're "on the good side" include dram (you fooled me once) & SirCakez (we should always start by assuming we're on opposing factions until proven otherwise )
8- Surprisingly enough I do NOT have a clear read on the FA+FB slot (Come on guys! Couldn't you have picked a longer username so that one enjoys typing an essay whenever addressing you??)
9- Finally, KC claims to be able to read me, so I'll let her decide on whether we should be friends of foes here.

You said you were iffy on them which I took to be a nullscum read, then you changed to a town read relatively quickly after that

-sc

Who was that directed at?

[Titus]

I know Anti doesn't like it, but I think Almost50

might

just be badposting.

But honestly, with A50's attitude, I don't feel any inclination to stop what Anti's doing.

Yeah, it's easy to rile up A50 and he loves OMGUS. That helped immensely in Open 627.

Please don't hate me Almost. I don't think you're bad at mafia but I do think your weakness is vulnerable to reading you here.

[KuroiXHF]

*still waiting on why I'm such a good lynch to No Retreat* Or maybe he already retreated. lol

[Almost50]

NVM

[No Retreat]

@Luna that's fair, I guess. But at the same time I could easily see you going "oh we can't confirm him...so lets lynch him!" as scum.

[Luna Fox]

Yeah, it's easy to rile up A50 and he loves OMGUS. That helped immensely in Open 627.

So this might explain why he's so aggresive towards heartless.

[No Retreat]

*still waiting on why I'm such a good lynch to No Retreat* Or maybe he already retreated. lol

I'm a 3 shot day cop and have a guilty on you.

[Titus]

@Luna that's fair, I guess. But at the same time I could easily see you going "oh we can't confirm him...so lets lynch him!" as scum.

I don't think Luna claims purple flying monster as scum here. If she did, she's not likely winning.

[Heartless]

His claim's a double edged sword, because night active roles cant confirm his alignment either.

*twitch twitch twitch*

/gasp

you mean there's clear scum motivation for not wanting to be targeted at night and your earlier point was crap?

oh no...

[Almost50]

Almost's list of comments was just commentary and not analysis, then his readslist was fence sitting city
WT's readslist was OMGUSy and not reasoned out at all

Why do you ignore that I mentioned it was too early for me to want someone roped? Well, guess what.. I did find one to rope and I'm voting them already. With that lynch and all the expected night action I should be able to get better reads on D2. On d1 all I care about is finding 1 main suspect and pursuing their case (which is already a much better option thatn taking shots in the dark and ending up lynching whomever bc we're out of time).

[Luna Fox]

purple flying monster

I would prefer Yellow magic fox instead

[No Retreat]

How do you determine if he's scum trying to shoo off investigators and town claiming a negative utility role?

[Heartless]

Now I need someone who understands my talk and logic to rephrase it to the public, if they please, so that everybody will know why I'm heavily scum reading Heartless already.

Np

...

~WIFOM~

There ya go

How does WIFOM apply here?

[Luna Fox]

How do you determine if he's scum trying to shoo off investigators and town claiming a negative utility role?

I just dismiss it as null.
Read his alignment from everything else, which is how i come to my current conclusion

[Heartless]

How do you determine if he's scum trying to shoo off investigators and town claiming a negative utility role?

you don't

that's why it's null

[Wayward Thinker]

Although i admit i never saw the "pretending to scumread him" reason like ever before, FmPoV he was just scumreading me without reason thoughout all game and only gave a reason when he misrepresneted my post to spin it like it was OMGUS

So why did you unvote me?

I already explained that before.
I was scumreading you because i believed that scum wanted me dead due to me slipping my role in a place where i didnt realize scum could be and they got that info, and shortly after you started scumreading me.
But this logic doesnt match if you're the only one doing so.

Gosu Townie points for this post.