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copper223 Jack of All Trades
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Because you don't put a spy in my PT from a faction that has my wincon, ergo we are almost guaranteed to be on opposite sides and despite the nonsense I have read we are town aligned, survivor wins with scum as well if they are not NKd while we need to form a majority with town to win.
Wulden and Nosferatu, the other two main non human factions, most likely also have a PT and that's where they all (or the bulk of them) are.
I also don't see any undead outside of the PT rushing to join our ranks which makes the proposition that LLD is a Wulden operating alone more unlikely.
What mastin said is that there can be different races in the same faction, you are arguing that the two are independent of each other, which based on the fact that we claimed undead are all apparently working for the same goal is absolute nonsense.-
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If LLD isn't "individual wulden", she's scum, and that's quite explicit. The faction is probably called "hunter" or something.In post 4941, rb wrote:Are you serious right now? How many times has it been said by Mastin that race =/= faction? Yet apparently people want to keep pushing on LLD just because she's Wulden and therefore practically 'confirmed cult'.
Why don't all of you who are town actually do some real fucking scumhunting?
I think you're missing something here.-
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This is such a weak post. I would vote LLD for this even if she didn't show as Wulden.In post 4339, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Once again, for the last time I targeted STORMBRINGER NOT SALTSQUAD.In post 4338, Almost50 wrote:
This response ALONE is enough for me to pursue your lynch to the end of time and beyond. YOU said you investigated their race, then YOU said you Role Copped them. I only asked you to specify which one YOU meant of the two YOU typed! How on Earth is that rolefishing?In post 4239, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Rolefishing?In post 4234, Almost50 wrote:
Did you ROLE Cop her or did you RACE Cop her? Please be specific. It may not matter on THIS particular outcome, but it does matter on others I think, since we had flips from the same nation belonging to different factions.In post 4018, Salt Squad wrote:I did explicitly role cop LLD
You were told this multiple times.
and yet you continue to be what appears to be deliberately ignorant for the purposes of your own agenda.
I'm happy with this vote.
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You do realize I gave up in Zelda mafia and stopped posting all together right?In post 4953, Stormblade wrote:Eh. I'm not so sure about Salt. Thinking about it more, this feels like Legend of Zelda beeboy when he was begging for 1 more day to confirm he's town so he could just rolecop someone as scum. He might just be cult wanting to recruit one more person.
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Blue: this is so painful to read. If there's a scum in your hood and the entire hood claims undead, of course the scum in your hood is going to claim to be undead and have your WinCon.In post 4950, copper223 wrote:Because you don't put a spy in my PT from a faction that has my wincon, ergo we are almost guaranteed to be on opposite sides and despite the nonsense I have read we are town aligned, survivor wins with scum as well if they are not NKd while we need to form a majority with town to win.
Wulden and Nosferatu, the other two main non human factions, most likely also have a PT and that's where they all (or the bulk of them) are.
I also don't see any undead outside of the PT rushing to join our ranks which makes the proposition that LLD is a Wulden operating alone more unlikely.
What mastin said is that there can be different races in the same faction, you are arguing that the two are independent of each other, which based on the fact that we claimed undead are all apparently working for the same goal is absolute nonsense.
My point is that the entire game needs to move away from scumhunting based on race because it's going to be unreliable and that anyone who's voting LLD because she's Wulden and not because she's actually playing scummy needs to gtfo that wagon.-
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I'm referring to Day 1 on that game, not Day 2...In post 4954, Salt Squad wrote:
You do realize I gave up in Zelda mafia and stopped posting all together right?In post 4953, Stormblade wrote:Eh. I'm not so sure about Salt. Thinking about it more, this feels like Legend of Zelda beeboy when he was begging for 1 more day to confirm he's town so he could just rolecop someone as scum. He might just be cult wanting to recruit one more person.
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I am 99% sure all these events happened day 2.
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I'm in the same boat but there's a decent possibility he's cult, and I think leaving him alive is kind of a HUGE risk.In post 4958, rb wrote:@Stormblade that's a fair point. He'd want to do this whether scum or town because it helps his faction's survival. But I overall am reading Salt Squad as Town and I think there's better lynches.As I recall, you got wagoned on Day 1. Claimed you had a alignment cop and begged to be let live one night so you could use it. Then claimed you didn't use it and got lynched. I'm pretty sure of this but maybe I'm misremembering? Either way, you still made the same play you're making here what with using your night action to buy yourself a day.
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Klingoncelt Jack of All Trades
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Why would anyone in their right minds waste a protect on you?In post 4733, Luna Fox wrote:I mean sure, ppl can watch/protect me, and in that case im open again to scan in there instead of lynching, if that's the route we're going.
You sold out your entire neighborhood.
Dram is dead.
Your fault.
You cannot be trusted.
Now a Tracker, yes, putting a Tacker on you would be great.
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Err, huh? Aren't you defending LLD..?In post 4963, rb wrote:I'm pretty sure that Dram's WinCon wins with cult though, unless I'm mistaken.
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ASIAOF culted/protected then? That might make some sense actually.In post 4965, Klingoncelt wrote:
Why would anyone in their right minds waste a protect on you?In post 4733, Luna Fox wrote:I mean sure, ppl can watch/protect me, and in that case im open again to scan in there instead of lynching, if that's the route we're going.
You sold out your entire neighborhood.
Dram is dead.
Your fault.
You cannot be trusted.
Now a Tracker, yes, putting a Tacker on you would be great.
BTW, since you couldn't be bothered with asking me for my results, Little Miss Team Player:
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I'm trying to figure out why your apparent WinCon which is the same as Dram's is trying to kill cultists. Like I might be totally wrong but it seems to me that your supposed WinCon doesn't actually care if the cult exists or not.In post 4967, Stormblade wrote:
Err, huh? Aren't you defending LLD..?In post 4963, rb wrote:I'm pretty sure that Dram's WinCon wins with cult though, unless I'm mistaken.
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copper223 Jack of All Trades
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@rb
What is paid full to read is your attempt to create chaos willingly or out of ignorance, of course we may have a wulden mole, the rest of us are all the same race and share the same wincon however so are we special snowflakes? Fuck that, I have strong circumstantial evidence that race is alignment significant, you just have platitudes about scum-hunting.-
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In [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8146623#p8146623]post 4970[/url], beeboy wrote:
I did that day 2 and was lynched because no one believed me. Why would I follow a losing strat?In post 4962, Stormblade wrote:As I recall, you got wagoned on Day 1. Claimed you had a alignment cop and begged to be let live one night so you could use it. Then claimed you didn't use it and got lynched. I'm pretty sure of this but maybe I'm misremembering? Either way, you still made the same play you're making here what with using your night action to buy yourself a day.
But I see what you are saying.Heat, Beeboy and Cakez. MUGI-CHAN BEST GIRL-
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What's this evidence then?In post 4971, copper223 wrote:@rb
What is paid full to read is your attempt to create chaos willingly or out of ignorance, of course we may have a wulden mole, the rest of us are all the same race and share the same wincon however so are we special snowflakes? Fuck that, I have strong circumstantial evidence that race is alignment significant, you just have platitudes about scum-hunting.-
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I share Dram's win condition.In post 4738, Cephrir wrote:I can't say I'm super pumped about lynching someone (Kling) who might have my win condition and is regularly mislynched, despite the fact I'm scumreading her
I don't know anything about treaties.
I do know that Alexis Galenos was the heroine and Dmitri Damanos was evil.Klingoncelt: "The whole scumteam slipped on page 1. It's the new meta. Sheep me because my reads are so accurate that whoever I name gets mod-converted to scum."-MiniDeathStar
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