STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[farside22]

Gah, titus I wanted to see if more people got it.

Sorry grapes but I'm getting impatient with Farside here. I need to have Farside actually push someone who can actually be scum.

I just made a large amount of points.
I think your expectations for me suddenly change my view on Shiro are very misunderstood

[Not Chara]

actually. what the hell.
VOTE: Loopdan

[farside22]

Should at I will be open to vote for Loop

I am hesitant to move on the CD wagon till Loop gets atleast kinda caught up. I will be open to a lynch after that

Waits for someone to call that a slip.

why would anyone do that in the first place?

It was a joke.

[Titus]

1)CoolDog never votes anyone but McMenno which is Cakey's counterwagon
2) CoolDog says that NC will be clear after Mastina flips, but displays no concern over Mastina voting NC.
3) Discredits my read on Cakey but doesn't call me scummy or elaborate why I'm wrong.
4) Calls NotChara a lurker in his defense of her
5) His interactions with KTS regarding the IC claim are wierd.

That's just skimming his ISO. I'm sure Mastina could do a better traditional case.

it/its or they/them please, Titus.

as for the points themselves, they're good ones.

I'm sorry I can see your avatar doing staring back. I'm terrible at non-traditional usage.

You should join us on CoolDog/LoopDan so we can go to night.

P-edit: Ty.

[Not Chara]

Gah, titus I wanted to see if more people got it.

Sorry grapes but I'm getting impatient with Farside here. I need to have Farside actually push someone who can actually be scum.

I just made a large amount of points.
I think your expectations for me suddenly change my view on Shiro are very misunderstood

Titus, why are you so convinced of Shiro being town, again?

[Reasonably Rational]

The second point isn't a good one, or at least not one I interpreted that way. I viewed it as more likely they misunderstood the Yume/Mastin interaction and attributed the potential alignment confirmation to the wrong slot. Kept meaning to bring this up every time someone mentioned it but it was never actually used as an argument for them as scum till now so low priority.

-Cerb

[Killthestory]

alright let me make a few things clear:
1. I've been sorta fucking around rn, and it was funny
2. Grapes feels really off with how he responded to my bullshit accusation, and I'm not genuinely scumreading him
3. Kling is town because I used my one shot JOAT super investigation that goes thru everything on them
5. Don't tell me how to play

[Not Chara]

I'm sorry I can see your avatar doing staring back. I'm terrible at non-traditional usage.

You should join us on CoolDog/LoopDan so we can go to night.

P-edit: Ty.

that's fine. just try to keep it in mind. if you can correct on Klingoncelt's pronouns, you can pay attention to mine, yes? :>
(plus, my avatar is a nonbinary character. or, at the very least, one without a canon gender that has received a wide variety of interpretations.)

[Not Chara]

The second point isn't a good one, or at least not one I interpreted that way. I viewed it as more likely they misunderstood the Yume/Mastin interaction and attributed the potential alignment confirmation to the wrong slot. Kept meaning to bring this up every time someone mentioned it but it was never actually used as an argument for them as scum till now so low priority.

-Cerb

i've brought it up a few times. and it's still very strange to me. sure, my slot has been mixed up with others in the past for... whatever reasons. but i don't see how someone could think i was the one confirmed by mastin, or why you would assume that to be the more likely option.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

As I said I don't do hypothetical. Now if you are asking me who I vote to lynch if I had the hammer vote with these two wagon I would prob pick Klingon, The idea is to hope to lynch Klingon and hope to get a fake miler. Both players are playing so weird it is hard to get a good read on either one. Both players are not making a lot of sense,

[Not Chara]

alright let me make a few things clear:
1. I've been sorta fucking around rn, and it was funny
2. Grapes feels really off with how he responded to my bullshit accusation, and I'm not genuinely scumreading him
3. Kling is town because I used my one shot JOAT super investigation that goes thru everything on them
5. Don't tell me how to play

grapes feels off but you're not genuinely scumreading them? or you weren't before you made the accusation, but are now suspicious?

[Titus]

Gah, titus I wanted to see if more people got it.

Sorry grapes but I'm getting impatient with Farside here. I need to have Farside actually push someone who can actually be scum.

I just made a large amount of points.
I think your expectations for me suddenly change my view on Shiro are very misunderstood

Titus, why are you so convinced of Shiro being town, again?

The scumreading of Almost50 seemed like legit town scumreading town that were derping like mad. The follow up on them wanting me to reread to reassess came across as genuine. His openness to questioning felt genuine. The alliance request frustration felt genuine, like there's something they want to tell me but she said she can't. The only points against him have been Farside throwing a fit about why me fry me, expecting me to treat Shiro and Farside the exact same way despite them treating me differently. I don't have Shiro as an automatic clear, but I just don't trust anything that's been said about Shiro that's negative, particularly when it's counteracting my own experiences with the slot.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Take that back..... After reading Kill statement I would lynch DGB. Sorry trying to post while 10 0thers are doing the same.

[Titus]

I'm sorry I can see your avatar doing staring back. I'm terrible at non-traditional usage.

You should join us on CoolDog/LoopDan so we can go to night.

P-edit: Ty.

that's fine. just try to keep it in mind. if you can correct on Klingoncelt's pronouns, you can pay attention to mine, yes? :>
(plus, my avatar is a nonbinary character. or, at the very least, one without a canon gender that has received a wide variety of interpretations.)

I will.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Taking Kills statement with several grains of salt

[Almost50]

@far:

You're starting to fall behind too far!! You were much more perceptive on D1 (or so I thought). I appreciate the SC flip was a stinger, and it probably got your reads all messed up, but come on.. you CAN get back on track.

First, KC claimed miller well into the PREQUEL phase (she CC'd Mastina in the following quote):

I'm not sure about Mastin's Miller-like claim though. The way my Role PM's worded, I'm pretty sure that

I'm

the Miller.

Second; Titus is as confirmed Town (to me) as I am to myself!

Third; I'm as confident Shiro is town as I am both Mastina and Yume.

Now you gave me something ( a minor detail that I thought even you were not aware of) on D1 that made me put you as high as confirmed. Today you're making me wonder if your still playing under the influence (of the SC flip, that is) or if you actually slipped that minor detail in there deliberately and skillfully enough to make it look like it was genuine and accidental!!

Please reset all your reads and work them out from scratch like I did and maybe you will see something (or two) that you might have missed

[Titus]

@Almost, How am I confirmed town?

[Not Chara]

by the way. Seraphim was probably town, and fuzzy is still town.

Titus: my problem with Shiro is their lack of hunting outside of Almost50. but they expressed frustration at that very fact today. i want to see them actively looking for somewhere else to direct themselves.
that aside, i dislike their realization about Almost being town. either it's bad reasoning because of mistaken assumptions regarding flavour, or it's scum unwilling to continue that push. but the latter seems less likely with Shiro can't seem to get good direction, as stated.

[Titus]

by the way. Seraphim was probably town, and fuzzy is still town.

Titus: my problem with Shiro is their lack of hunting outside of Almost50. but they expressed frustration at that very fact today. i want to see them actively looking for somewhere else to direct themselves.
that aside, i dislike their realization about Almost being town. either it's bad reasoning because of mistaken assumptions regarding flavour, or it's scum unwilling to continue that push. but the latter seems less likely with Shiro can't seem to get good direction, as stated.

Yeah, I think right now (unless abnormally hostile) most players posting are town. Things will get interesting when Mastina and I run out of joint reads tomorrow. I fully expect a battle there unless thinks go differently with Yume.

[TheFuzzylogic99]

what makes you think scum is lurking /not really posting

[Almost50]

@Almost, How am I confirmed town?

Jesus Navas, Titus! Didn't you get a pizza from peridot?? That's cool. I know it sounds buck weak a reason, but that's as far as I'm going to say in the open.

[Not Chara]

what makes you think scum is lurking /not really posting

process of elimination.

[Titus]

what makes you think scum is lurking /not really posting

I'd say not pushing is fairer.

If Mastina and I agree and are correct, scum will not want to bus. They may or may not push someone else, but they hope the wagon dies.

If Mastina and I are wrong, it's damaging to our joint credibility, allowing scum to take over later.

If they try to take over to mislynch to save Loopdan, they look bad. If it fails, the backlash is enormous.

I don't see why scum would interfere to save town.

[grapes]

Agree with fuzzy that loopdan's catch up would be fantastic.

[Killthestory]

Taking Kills statement with several grains of salt

that's better than one, so I must be doing something right