STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Reasonably Rational]

Also, I think everyone who stated they can't vote should place a vote somewhere to prove that's the case, before kraska ends the event.

VOTE: Farside22

And once he does end the event, NOBODY VOTE UNLESS IT'S ON FARSIDE, since we know she can place at least 5 votes, so right now everyone is at l-2.

-Cerb

[kraskaesque]

Well I just don't like the idea of giving scum the chance to non-communally defend or point fingers at people and not have to vote. After what happened yesterday I don't know what to expect so I'll just stop it now

[kraskaesque]

commitally*

[Reasonably Rational]

Well I just don't like the idea of giving scum the chance to non-communally defend or point fingers at people and not have to vote. After what happened yesterday I don't know what to expect so I'll just stop it now

Kraska wait.

There's good data to gain here, that's 100% unable to be manipulated. There could be value in knowing who scum denied votes to.

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

Also with what happened yesterday and your alliance with her allowing it to happen again, it's actually BETTER for the moment that nobody vote until we figure out what we're doing with farside, since she can save herself by lynching anyone else we vote enough. Warring wagons involving her could be very bad.

-Cerb

[kraskaesque]

Okay np I'll wait
Also a heads up: I just noticed the meter is at 0, so I'll have to drop the meter by 2 before I can stop the event(i can only stop events if stress is at -1 or lower)

[Reasonably Rational]

Can you explain why you and farside are still allied when she told titus she would ally with her?

And alright, that's a good reason to wait as well. Using your ability to lower stress seems pretty bad.

-Cerb

[Shiro]

I am also unable to vote cause no alliance but a test wouldn't hurt

Vote:Farside

[kraskaesque]

Can you explain why you and farside are still allied when she told titus she would ally with her?

And alright, that's a good reason to wait as well. Using your ability to lower stress seems pretty bad.

-Cerb

She asked me to ally again in the alliance pt. I didnt know she asked Titus to ally in thread ( like I said, I'm really behind on what's going on here). But I assume she wanted to switch after seeing the flip. She's been egging me to vote snarky for a long time, she was pretty convinced he's scum so I understand why she wouldn't want to ally Titus after ending the day prematurely with a town flip
I know this will fall on deaf ears especially after yhe way yesterday ended but I still think this is typical fqrside stubbornness and i still don't think she's scum even if I don't approve of what she's done

[Reasonably Rational]

Can you explain why she voted the way she did, when it only out 8 votes on snarky and wouldn't have lynched him if he were scum?

-Cerb

[grapes]

I'm going to get more involved now. I didn't realize that not being in an alliance would nullify my vote. This kinda sucks.

What are your scumreads cerb?

Nobody knew that except for scum.

Farside's at the top for the reason I just gave, along with a host of other things. TWIE is also a possibility because of the missing kill last night, but that's dependent upon varsoon and his answers to my question. The gems could have a traitor within who convinced them going into the night at -4 stress would somehow be beneficial, but I don't know which one that could be. I know who two of them are, but without knowing al three I can't judge which is most likely among all of them.

There's also a nonzero chance shiro is scum, considering he hasn't actualy done anything all game long.

Fuzzy is 90% town with snarkys flip (only way he's not is if his team deliberately let snarky live because they were afraid they would be lynched if they didn't have him around as a distraction), farside flip is most relevant for this particular scenario since she was, during the time the event was decided, the other most likely lynchee.

@kraska: you can stop this event and give us all our votes back? Please do.

-Cerb

Pedit : grapes is right actually, if we have enough votes for lynch we should consider not stopping it

...farside weren't you supposed to apply titus? Why didn't you?

How do we know there was a missing kill?

Haven't we concluded that farside isn't groupscum at least? Why do you think her flip would tell us something about other players?

Explain why snarky being town makes fuzzy town like I'm five? Are you saying that scum wouldn't have let fuzzy get roleblocked by snarky's ally ability?

That seems meh to me because town was very much in control of how alliances were put up. At least before the last two days. :p

I'm so fucking lost yo.

[grapes]

Can we trust the GEMS?!

[grapes]

I think fuzzy's town.

I think kraska is mebbe scum.

[grapes]

VOTE: Farside

let's see

[kraskaesque]

Can you explain why she voted the way she did, when it only out 8 votes on snarky and wouldn't have lynched him if he were scum?

-Cerb

Uhh how does her vote thing work? I think I may have misunderstood from what she said in the pt

[Reasonably Rational]

Also who do you think is scum kraska?

-Cerb

Pedit: Alright, I'll break this down.

TWIE claimed to be a season finale only vig. The cluster event said McMenno and XK were killed by it. Titus was obviously the scum kill, since she was immune to negative stuff on the finale, so that must have been the scums -4 stress kill.

We're missing TWIES kill.

Fuzzy controlled the lynch event yesterday, and was given the chance to lynch snarky with no accountability. Given that snarky flipped town, there's little reason for scum!fuzzy to not take the opportunity to get a free kill. Since he did not, it is very unlikely that fuzzy is scum, UNLESS one of his teammates was likely to be lynched if fuzzy wasn't around to draw the heat.

Farside has not been concluded to not be groupscum; what we have concluded is that IN ORDER for her to be groupscum, DGB had to have coordinated/spoke with a member of her team at some point prior to beachapalooza. There were two opportunities for this: D3, with TWIE, and D2, when Farside and Skybird claimed to be allied with one another (dgb could have allied with either and they could have lied to cover for it, or DGB could have just forced an alliance with one of the other no alliance claimed on D2 and found scum).

I have no idea how we should feel about the gems. There's a slight inconsistency between the gems win condition as told to me, and as told to Titus.

[Reasonably Rational]

Can you explain why she voted the way she did, when it only out 8 votes on snarky and wouldn't have lynched him if he were scum?

-Cerb

Uhh how does her vote thing work? I think I may have misunderstood from what she said in the pt

I don't know how her vote thing works, honestly, but from.what was shown in thread and previous voting mechanics is employed by Varsoon, she placed exactly 5 votes on snarky when he was at 4 votes, including her own. That removed her previous single vote, and replaced it with a quintuple vote, so a total of +4 votes...which put snarky at 8 votes.

9 was the threshold yesterday. 8 only lynched if the person you were lynching was town.

My current thought process on this sequence of events is scum!farside knew she was going to be lynched at some point, but had enough points to force through two mislynches. She dumped points to force the fuzzy mislynch and was planning on allying titus, but when stress didn't drop and they still had their -4 stress kill, they decided to kill titus and activate the event in place today, while farside made sure she allied with someone else, so she could make sure to force another mislynch today without being at risk of getting lynched herself, or just force a no lynch today (cause free scum kill), then force a mislynch tomorrow.

-Cerb

[Shiro]

@Mastin, can you do me a favour and clarify your faction, because I am having an awful lot of doubt you are earthling. We know you are not crystal gem and after Peridot flip I.am extremely cautious that you are leftover

[Shiro]

To clarify, are you a survivor? I have no wish to Lynch you If you are and I am pretty sure most of town shares that sentiment but come clean with it if you are

[Shadow_step]

Fuzzy is 90% town with snarkys flip (only way he's not is if his team deliberately let snarky live because they were afraid they would be lynched if they didn't have him around as a distraction), farside flip is most relevant for this particular scenario since she was, during the time the event was decided, the other most likely lynchee.

This sentence is a contradiction in itself, why is Fuzzy town because he saved Snarky. He was lynch bait anyway
I already said he did this because he's scum and wanted the meter to go to -4 ffs

[Shadow_step]

Second who is in an alliance?

Xk was supposed to be my ally, oh well.

[Creature]

Thanks, I got no ally.

[Creature]

Why is TWIE living?

[Creature]

VOTE: farside22

Bah, I am tired of these crystal gems anyway.

[Creature]

IF THE EXPOSITION ENDS ON A NON-SCUM LYNCH, THE ENTIRE SCUM TEAM IS REMOVED FROM THE GAME AND UNABLE TO TAKE ACTIONS FOR THE CLIMAX PHASE.f the Exposition ends on a non-scum lynch, the entire scum team is removed from the game and unable to take actions for the Climax phase.