STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[farside22]

Why not RR?

Hello Mr. Fluff.

[Creature]

It's not even fluff though.

[MagnaofIllusion]

There's also the worry that scum could've coordinated one of themselves to look town in Beach-a-palooza.

Look - scum posting.

The strength of Beach-a-palooza is that the math is rock solid and can't be manipulated to "look Town".

I also laugh at how RR is cleared by you via Beach-a-palooza when they clearly aren't.

[Creature]

The strength of Beach-a-palooza is that the math is rock solid and can't be manipulated to "look Town".

I also laugh at how RR is cleared by you via Beach-a-palooza when they clearly aren't.

You actually said a reason RR is cleared in your first statement.

[MagnaofIllusion]

You actually said a reason RR is cleared in your first statement.

Nope.

Time to put up or shut up scum.

Quote or link to what you are claiming clears RR.

I'm waiting.

[Creature]

How many scum could've voted mastin2 to make her sum up 7 points?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Oh and to demonstrate that Creature is scum here's my Beach-a-palooza Analysis post.

Not how RR is in no way cleared. In fact reading it I suspect them above Farside.

Can we get more Creature votes please?

Ok, back from hell weekend and catching up –

First I’m going to drop in this which I’ve been posting in my various PTs overnight …

Beach Result Tracking

–

Rational: mastin (+1)

Skybird: mastin (+.5)

Almost: mastin

(+1)

Mastin: self (+3)

Yume: mastin (+1)

Result – 7, known 6.5

Chara: self (+3)

Farside: Chara (+2)
Result - 5

Titus: self (+3)

Kraska: Titus (+1)

Xkfyu: Titus (+1)

Grapes: Titus (+1)

total: 6

Shiro: none

Snarky: none

DGB: none

Random: none

Fuzzy: none (didn't answer?)
TWIE: none

Creature: shadow step

Magna: voted Rational

Shadow step: Almost

Fire: Rational

McMenno: self

So blue is confirmed Town (via flips, Mod communication) or players who I am confident enough to gamble the game calling Town.
Red is Mafia scum.

With kraska cancelling the event I'd slot her just below blue status and would not be pushing on her today.

For farside to be scum they need two additional scum voting with her to make the numbers come out correct on Not Chara.
For RR to be scum they need two additional scum voting with them and Skybird to make the numbers come out correct on Mastin.

Those scenarios are going to be exclusionary - you aren't going to get both RR and farside as scum together because that would require too many scum players at this stage - if you want to fight me on it that's fine but 7 scum traitor or no is too many given the absolute strength of the Mafia event powers displayed this game.

Personally if I had to choose one I'd choose RR as scum over farside. I can see farside as just playing terrible.

Regardless the pool where scum are overwhelmingly like to be hiding is (Creature, Shiro, Shadow, TWIE, fuzzy). Because the pool of players who be covering Skybird is getting smaller by the second.

Don't like my PoE? Do your own. I don't give a rats ass about people whining.

Up next - catch-up.

[Creature]

I doubt there's more than 6 scum.

One scum died early. Therefore up to 4 scum could've voted farside22 (as there's no .5 in the number of votes).

[Creature]

Also, scum doesn't have much coordination there as all PTs were locked, right?

[MagnaofIllusion]

I doubt there's more than 6 scum.

One scum died early. Therefore up to 4 scum could've voted farside22 (as there's no .5 in the number of votes).

6 total scum including DGB or not? I want to be absolutely clear on how you come to your conclusions.

Also, scum doesn't have much coordination there as all PTs were locked, right?

Don't think so. I didn't have an Alliance that day but I know the Crystal Gems PT was open. I assume other PTs were also.

[Creature]

6 total scum including DGB or not?

Including DGB.

[Creature]

Don't think so. I didn't have an Alliance that day but I know the Crystal Gems PT was open. I assume other PTs were also.

Nvm, must've confused.

[Creature]

Still think we should go after the non-topwagoners first, it's possible all scum are there.

[MagnaofIllusion]

6 total scum including DGB or not?

Including DGB.

Well then with 6 total scum, including DGB, we have the following scenario -

Sir Cakez is dead. 5 living scum.

Skybird is confirmed scum. 1 of the remaining scum must be covering for her.

That leaves 3 scum including DGB free.

Farside scum requires 2 scum covering for her, leaving 1 scum free to cover elsewhere or just not vote the Top 3.

Farside not-scum leaves 3 scum to cover elsewhere or not vote the Top 3.

Neither of these scenarios excludes RR scum.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Still think we should go after the non-topwagoners first, it's possible all scum are there.

Agreed. Which is why I am voting you.

Who are you voting again?

[Creature]

Still want to see what others think about farside22 before voting TWIE.

[Almost50]

@grapes:

1- TWIE did not shoot you. Skybird did.
2- Fuzzy controlled the lynch of the anonymous voting lynch event. He did reveal it was his event and he had the choice to lynch the top voted player.
3- I still town read Shiro, but I was asking for additional confirmation since Shiro was allied with both RR & Titus at the time, thus may have said something that wasn't mentioned in the main thread.

That's as far as I got with your revision posts. I'll respond more if I find something that needs a response.

[Creature]

VOTE: TWIE

Bah whatever, that's taking too long

[Creature]

farside22

Can you confirm if you don't quintuple vote TWIE?

[Randomnamechange]

So basically town with an extra win condition?

yep

[MagnaofIllusion]

Still think we should go after the non-topwagoners first, it's possible all scum are there.

Still want to see what others think about farside22 before voting TWIE.

Why would you be waiting to see what others think about farside if you really believed the first statement?

[Creature]

Because farside can win with scum.

[Reasonably Rational]

VOTE: TWIE

Bah whatever, that's taking too long

Nice job, now we get to watchfarside hammer someone she didn't believe was scum at day start, before alliances are figured out again.

Well done.

Anyone else notice how the entire wagon on twie is people who would otherwise be lynched today (with the exception of mastin)?

-Cerb

[Creature]

UNVOTE:

Okay, what are the alliances then?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Because farside can win with scum.

And your proof of this is?