STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I should say most likely with cut and paste

[TheFuzzylogic99]

unless someone has been mod confirmed than we must consider it is possible the might be scum or antitown

saying that it is possible I am a SK .
I am not but I think that Town should consider that a possibility

[Reasonably Rational]

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We gave you shit because what you did creates perfect cover for scum to hide under. Without those 5 votes as the floor, all the people who claimed singleton votes on people wouldn't have had a place to hide. Without Titus using her conftown, our plan would have went off perfectly, Mastin would have had like 17 points or something, and we could have tested the people who showed up with low vote counts, and scum would have had less room to hide in and would have had to justify their choices.

There's a big difference between deliberately obfuscating the results of the event while simultaneously decreasing the chance that conftown ends up winning the event and working to ENSURE conftown wins and town gains maximum information.

-Cerb

Here's a presentation of what you have been doing.

Maybe you did all that to fake scum hunting and look town.
I mean sky voted mastin according to her so scum knew the plan occurring to your theory so......you look just as guilty in my book.

Of course Skybird knew about the plan. We had already established that Yume was Steven, and her ability to talk to both Mastin and Skybird was why we wanted to ally with her on D2, to maximize the reach of the basic plan we had formulated for using our event. We didn't know at the time we wanted to chat with her that the gems had a PT(though there were hints), but she pretty much confirmed it to us in the hood when we mentioned that she'd be able to talk to three other people(by which we meant mastin, skybird, and skybirds ally), and she responded with suspicion about how we knew she could talk to that many other people.

What do you mean here's a presentation of what I have been doing? And...did you read the wall Drixx posted earlier? I know you did, because you responded to things he said in it. In it he outlines a fair number of things that have occurred in game that really don't make sense for scum!us, especially when it's all taken together. Individually maybe, but all of it is absurd. A posited scum us, if we wanted Yume dead(which, ya know, is a question mark in and of itself, she was townreading us and Skybird) would have never put stress up to the point where xkfyu could kill Skybird, and anyone who says otherwise either has never played with us and didn't bother researching us at all, or they're so deeply tunneled on us that they're ignoring the obvious contradiction between what's happened this game and the way we play. There is NO REASON(we know of, it's possible there was some sort of restriction on the usage of that power that made it necessary to use it then) why we wouldn't have just waited until some other opportunity to kill her without risking such a powerful role. Scum!us doesn't let their team walk into so many traps THAT WE ALREADY KNEW ABOUT. I mean, I suppose you could posit that we're some sort of mastermind who deliberately cost their team a kill and got their strongest role killed, while creating the PoE pools that the town has been using to great effect, specifically so we'd be townread as a result...but consider that if skybird were still alive, and town had one less member, scum!me only needs ONE more mislynch if we assume a 6 man team, as opposed to the THREE they need at this point.

I don't even know why I'm bothering answering you right now. I told Drixx I'd let him deal with you but it's fucking irritating all the shit you keep taking out of context and without accounting for everything else that's been stated just to push your agenda. It's obvious to me that you're not aligned to the town. Shall we count the reasons why?

1) You kept using your power throughout the cluster instead of, ya know, TRYING TO KEEP SCUM FROM KILLING PEOPLE.
2) You're claiming to be a 1x lynchproof NK immune ascetic roleblocker alliance destroyer who CAN win with town but can also win with your own win con. Do you even realize how fucking ridiculous that sounds? Your claim was believable until you modified it to include being BP. Our absolute BEST CASE scenario here is that you're simply third party and will just exit the game when you complete your goal, but I refuse to let town just fucking sit around and pretend like your claim makes sense for town and ignore that you could quite easily simply win the game and screw us all over.
3) Even AFTER Titus popped her IC YOU KEPT THE BULLSHIT UP WITH HER, AND THEN YOU STARTED IT WITH US. You just keep vomiting all over the thread and hiding among the excrement of the sewer it's become. You know who keeps throwing up a smokescreen by arguing endless with conftown? People who have shit to hide, like a ridiculous claim for town to make, NOT fucking town.
4) Now that you seem to have been forced into a position where you have to admit you were lying about your previous claim to make it more believable, here you are, back to your MO all game of attacking a convenient target to force all eyes away from your bullshit claim.

Now, everything Drixx said in his earlier post was spot on, he's just not fucking me and didn't ask Varsoon the right question, and he has a huge hard on for playing nice with neutrals(something I used to ruthlessly manipulate him all game long in SF), and it's making him give you the benefit of the doubt when he really really really shouldn't do so.

With all that said...we aren't going to lynch you anytime soon. You managed to convince 2 of our conftown that you're no threat, so this is all probably a waste of words, but fuck it. Someone needs to call you out on this shit.

This is the last I'll say on this unless I'm alive in lylo. Time to stop feeding the fucking troll.

-Cerb

[Reasonably Rational]

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We gave you shit because what you did creates perfect cover for scum to hide under. Without those 5 votes as the floor, all the people who claimed singleton votes on people wouldn't have had a place to hide. Without Titus using her conftown, our plan would have went off perfectly, Mastin would have had like 17 points or something, and we could have tested the people who showed up with low vote counts, and scum would have had less room to hide in and would have had to justify their choices.

There's a big difference between deliberately obfuscating the results of the event while simultaneously decreasing the chance that conftown ends up winning the event and working to ENSURE conftown wins and town gains maximum information.

-Cerb

Here's a presentation of what you have been doing.

Maybe you did all that to fake scum hunting and look town.
I mean sky voted mastin according to her so scum knew the plan occurring to your theory so......you look just as guilty in my book.

Of course Skybird knew about the plan. We had already established that Yume was Steven, and her ability to talk to both Mastin and Skybird was why we wanted to ally with her on D2, to maximize the reach of the basic plan we had formulated for using our event. We didn't know at the time we wanted to chat with her that the gems had a PT(though there were hints), but she pretty much confirmed it to us in the hood when we mentioned that she'd be able to talk to three other people(by which we meant mastin, skybird, and skybirds ally), and she responded with suspicion about how we knew she could talk to that many other people.

What do you mean here's a presentation of what I have been doing? And...did you read the wall Drixx posted earlier? I know you did, because you responded to things he said in it. In it he outlines a fair number of things that have occurred in game that really don't make sense for scum!us, especially when it's all taken together. Individually maybe, but all of it is absurd. A posited scum us, if we wanted Yume dead(which, ya know, is a question mark in and of itself, she was townreading us and Skybird) would have never put stress up to the point where xkfyu could kill Skybird, and anyone who says otherwise either has never played with us and didn't bother researching us at all, or they're so deeply tunneled on us that they're ignoring the obvious contradiction between what's happened this game and the way we play. There is NO REASON(we know of, it's possible there was some sort of restriction on the usage of that power that made it necessary to use it then) why we wouldn't have just waited until some other opportunity to kill her without risking such a powerful role. Scum!us doesn't let their team walk into so many traps THAT WE ALREADY KNEW ABOUT. I mean, I suppose you could posit that we're some sort of mastermind who deliberately cost their team a kill and got their strongest role killed, while creating the PoE pools that the town has been using to great effect, specifically so we'd be townread as a result...but consider that if skybird were still alive, and town had one less member, scum!me only needs ONE more mislynch if we assume a 6 man team, as opposed to the THREE they need at this point.

I don't even know why I'm bothering answering you right now. I told Drixx I'd let him deal with you but it's fucking irritating all the shit you keep taking out of context and without accounting for everything else that's been stated just to push your agenda. It's obvious to me that you're not aligned to the town. Shall we count the reasons why?

1) You kept using your power throughout the cluster instead of, ya know, TRYING TO KEEP SCUM FROM KILLING PEOPLE.
2) You're claiming to be a 1x lynchproof NK immune ascetic roleblocker alliance destroyer who CAN win with town but can also win with your own win con. Do you even realize how fucking ridiculous that sounds? Your claim was believable until you modified it to include being BP. Our absolute BEST CASE scenario here is that you're simply third party and will just exit the game when you complete your goal, but I refuse to let town just fucking sit around and pretend like your claim makes sense for town and ignore that you could quite easily simply win the game and screw us all over.
3) Even AFTER Titus popped her IC YOU KEPT THE BULLSHIT UP WITH HER, AND THEN YOU STARTED IT WITH US. You just keep vomiting all over the thread and hiding among the excrement of the sewer it's become. You know who keeps throwing up a smokescreen by arguing endless with conftown? People who have shit to hide, like a ridiculous claim for town to make, NOT fucking town.
4) Now that you seem to have been forced into a position where you have to admit you were lying about your previous claim to make it more believable, here you are, back to your MO all game of attacking a convenient target to force all eyes away from your bullshit claim.

Now, everything Drixx said in his earlier post was spot on, he's just not fucking me and didn't ask Varsoon the right question, and he has a huge hard on for playing nice with neutrals(something I used to ruthlessly manipulate him all game long in SF), and it's making him give you the benefit of the doubt when he really really really shouldn't do so.

With all that said...we aren't going to lynch you anytime soon. You managed to convince 2 of our conftown that you're no threat, so this is all probably a waste of words, but fuck it. Someone needs to call you out on this shit.

This is the last I'll say on this unless I'm alive in lylo. Time to stop feeding the fucking troll.

-Cerb

My name is Drixx and I approve this message.

[Shadow_step]

I'd like to ally with you, Mastina.

You are aware that it grants no PT right ?

[Randomnamechange]

I think we are focusing way too much on the beach event right now and need to go back to basic scum hunting

Honestly I think scum might be using this to throw town off base,,,,,Its a good idea but I think there is too many x factors to get a solid answer

I been trying to play along with my fellow townies and I am getting confused,,,,,,,,Forget it..If I get mislynched I get mislynched. I am determine as anything to get a town win added to my record

@almost
I took it as each scum vote on a wagon went up .5 thus if there were 4 scum the fourth scum vote counted as 2, Okay what you are saying makes sense. It was not that I was not reading it it was I did not understand


My idea that a gem could possible be scum was not disproven. We know the Flavor/role reveal was done in the Gem PT with cut and Paste. This means that as much as it might be unlikely its still possible that info could of been altered.

also I was right about the fake vig claim made by scum.....


RR
I don't think that it doesn't hurt to ask........

We are cofirmed to be of the same alignment. by the mod. We are masons.

@RR, i agree with you on Fuzzy, lookin back that claim doesn't make sense. Do you think they could be a leftover? it would explain them having a 'vig' shit better than them being scum

[Creature]

Alliances so far?

[Creature]

Mod

Can we get a votecount?

[TheFuzzylogic99]

ok was thinking of neighbors....... which is different from masons

sorry,,,,, look like I was wrong on this

[TheFuzzylogic99]

Maston
Far
MOI
Random

Almost
Creature
Shadow
RR
Grapes
Shiro

[Creature]

Deadline[/b]: (expired on 2016-12-07 10:00:00)

[Almost50]

So? Is it Creature, Fuzzy or farside we're lynching today? Are we back to the "my way or no way" kind of thing?

[farside22]

So? Is it Creature, Fuzzy or farside we're lynching today? Are we back to the "my way or no way" kind of thing?

Creature or shadow.

I'll I read from rr is blah, blah, you so scum, blah blah how dare you call me out for being a hypocrite and take everything said out of context and blah blah blah.

[MagnaofIllusion]

So back from V/LA …

I’d like to ally with RR for tomorrow if that is on the table.

My must kill ASAP list is short –

Creature – I’ve written enough on this subject that I think it should be clear why I want him hung. The fact that TWIE refused to vote him when TWIE’s life was on the line should be a pretty strong indication that he’s a good lynch. Unless you think TWIE is so incompetent that he would not vote a Townie to save his own skin.

Shiro – Underwhelming play and the SirCakez wagon.

Shadow – I’m not about to assume that his ability to prove he has no other innate abilities is Town when we have SO many other methods of proven alignment confirmation and scum clearly have factional abilities that Shadow could use as a Goon. Overall underwhelming play also.

That said …

VOTE: Creature

Also Creature being a Threat to Earth means his run of posts today along these lines ..

Again, better spare TFL today and tomorrow.

Means Fuzzy is almost certainty not scum. The amount of times he’s dropped this screams “Mine a mislynch with my doomed Day”.

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Now for the more important and relevant question: Have you received the info I passed along and the questions? If so, can you get some answers relayed back to us please?

No. Had random not made it clear he can’t communicate that info to me until Climax? Frankly I would not be shocked if he hadn’t given how inactive he has been in our PT.

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TWIE flipped his scum buddy in that hysterical fiction thing in order to get people town read him. Do you really think that's a reason to town read him?

Can you elaborate on how this applies to Fuzzy? I’m not sure I get what you are floating here.

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Fuzzy claims vig, which I'm not buying,

Have an alternate explanation for Firebringer’s death?

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Random or MOI
Can you explain what the process was for seeing each others roles. Sorry trying to figure things out.

Random is Mod confirmed by the Crystal Gem Factional PT to be a Crystal Gem. That ends all debate on the subject since this is not a Bastard game. And not just by us sharing our Role PMs – by Mod posting in the PT.

And there is little point to any further flavor claiming from us. One of us is Garnet. One of us is Pearl. We’ve already said this. No reason to specify who is who.

[Creature]

Okay, at least you won't touch TFL either way.

[Creature]

Though, I'd recommend you to do your night actions with the mindset of me flipping town. It's better to be prepared for two scum than one scum.

[Creature]

Shiro and Shadow should be the next to go.

[Creature]

Okay, what are the alliances?

[Creature]

Also, who would try to nightkill farside? lol

[Shadow_step]

@MOI

You think TFL is town just because he shot FB.

[Creature]

Also, who would try to nightkill farside? lol

Maybe scum were paying no attention, like Shadow and Shiro.

[Creature]

Like the way I escaped the rope twice in a row, at least we got scum.

[Creature]

Btw, I watched the whole season 1 some days ago.

[Varsoon]

[Almost50]

Have an alternate explanation for Firebringer’s death?

Scum wanted him dead?