DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Untrod Tripod]

I mean

maybe the cop is still alive because they were never getting nightkilled

guys I'm literally retarded ignore me

[Lady Lambdadelta]

AND GreyICE needs to die.

And MoI

And uhglfa;sh';hae'f;fshd

[Nahdia]

Zito is dead. Very dead.

Maybe the terrorist will kill one of us for ya.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I mean

maybe the cop is still alive because they were never getting nightkilled

guys I'm literally retarded ignore me

YEAH

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Zito is dead. Very dead.

Maybe the terrorist will kill one of us for ya.

Zito's dead?

[Untrod Tripod]

Zito's Nuke

zito's dead baby

[Nahdia]

Yes, Zito is dead. Zito has been dead for awhile.

[mastina]

Like, if Ceph is town, and you're also town, that will literally mean every single read you've had this game has been wrong other than SAD.

We've been over this.
But, one, Ceph started as a townread and only changed to a scumread after me being shown repeatedly wrong,
And two, I wasn't wrong on McMenno. I said there was a chance of him being scum, but I refused to lynch him. That was on principle partly, yes, but it was also a hard stance of sorts, saying no, I did not think he actually was scum.

If I thought someone actually was scum, no fucking duh I'd be on the wagon. Refusing the wagon was me saying I didn't.

So I've been right that both our mislynches were mislynches. The only difference is the degree in which I fought them. I was deadset against lynching SAD because he was my largest fucking townread. I was in opposition to the McMenno wagon, but I just didn't feel like arguing against it.
I also had Fate as town. And was thinking GiF was town. Yeah I pushed him the hardest, but I was changing my stance there. And had Reck as town.

In short, I've been right on every player being town. (Well, except Ircher. That one caught me off-guard.) It's the scumflips I've been wrong about.
And when you think about it, this is a natural consequence of my playstyle, which focuses on an "innocent until proven guilty" approach. It's easier to townhunt and name town than it is to scumhunt and name scum.

Also, there's like a 75% chance SpyreX just blocked me again so it's not like the nuke will actually land and do damage.
It does make a statement though.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I thought the nuke going at him got sabo'd

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Like, if Ceph is town, and you're also town, that will literally mean every single read you've had this game has been wrong other than SAD.

We've been over this.
But, one, Ceph started as a townread and only changed to a scumread after me being shown repeatedly wrong,
And two, I wasn't wrong on McMenno. I said there was a chance of him being scum, but I refused to lynch him. That was on principle partly, yes, but it was also a hard stance of sorts, saying no, I did not think he actually was scum.

If I thought someone actually was scum, no fucking duh I'd be on the wagon. Refusing the wagon was me saying I didn't.

So I've been right that both our mislynches were mislynches. The only difference is the degree in which I fought them. I was deadset against lynching SAD because he was my largest fucking townread. I was in opposition to the McMenno wagon, but I just didn't feel like arguing against it.
I also had Fate as town. And was thinking GiF was town. Yeah I pushed him the hardest, but I was changing my stance there. And had Reck as town.

In short, I've been right on every player being town. (Well, except Ircher. That one caught me off-guard.) It's the scumflips I've been wrong about.
And when you think about it, this is a natural consequence of my playstyle, which focuses on an "innocent until proven guilty" approach. It's easier to townhunt and name town than it is to scumhunt and name scum.

Also, there's like a 75% chance SpyreX just blocked me again so it's not like the nuke will actually land and do damage.
It does make a statement though.

WHY

NOT

WAIT

[Nahdia]

Yeah, it did. But then it turned out the terrorist nuked them too.

[Untrod Tripod]

AND GreyICE needs to die.

And MoI

And uhglfa;sh';hae'f;fshd

shh shh

we will all die in the warm glow of radioactive light

let's cherish these moments we have together

as we celebrate mastina getting fucking dead

[Nahdia]

I'm not gonna go back and find that post or explain the whole thing but TL;DR

Terrorist sub nuking Zito when another nuke was already headed towards him, not yet revealed to be a sabotaged nuke, means the terrorist is probably not paying any attention. In other words it's friggin' hiplop.

[mastina]

Hey moron. We don't know who that person is.

...Your point?

I want Cephrir dead.
The only reason to have not wanted him dead was protecting the doctor.
This is no longer the issue, since there is no desire to protect the doctor anymore.
His claim doesn't matter. No matter what role he claims, I'm still going to want him dead. Doctor? ZERO excuse for GiF's death. Deadhand? Well good, he nukes me, a player people want gone anyway. Airbase? Scummy as fuck role and not something worth saving.

WHAT IS THE LOSS OF WAITNG FUCKING 24 HOURS FOR THESE 3 TO CLAIM?

Counterpoint: what is the gain in waiting for them to claim?

I'm not lynching GreyICE regardless of what GreyICE's role is.
I am going to lynch/nuke Cephrir and MoI regardless of what their roles are.

So what does them claiming really change?

I want them dead. Period. So I pursue them. That simple.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mastin, can you remind me what the code word for killing yourself if you want to accelerate a nuke is?

And would you mind putting it in bold for me? I'm kind of blind

[Cheetory6]

Lol.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Yeah, it did. But then it turned out the terrorist nuked them too.

o

[Cheetory6]

I could drop a nuke on hiplop.
I feel pretty numb about the idea of using it on anyone else at this point.

[Nahdia]

I would wait for the current nukes to drop, just in case. But you do you, man.

[Cheetory6]

I would probably only do it right now if everyone wanted me to anyways.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

HIPLOP, WILL YOU PLEASE NUKE VAXKILLER

[mastina]

Basically, the only way you can justify the doctor is "Reck blocked an unconfirmed!" (a moronic action, and I repeat, RECK IS NOT A MORON),
Or, "The doctor decided to try and outguess the kill and hope that both the SK and scum would assume he'd be on GiF!" (a decision which is policy-lynch worthy).

[mastina]

On an unrelated note: vaguely regaining the LLD scumread because of her play today.
She's pushing all sorts of weird ways in wrong places.

[Cheetory6]

Nuking before getting claims with that logic makes absolutely no sense.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Basically, the only way you can justify the doctor is "Reck blocked an unconfirmed!" (a moronic action, and I repeat, RECK IS NOT A MORON),
Or, "The doctor decided to try and outguess the kill and hope that both the SK and scum would assume he'd be on GiF!" (a decision which is policy-lynch worthy).

NO SHIT.

WHY MY OPENING WORD WERE

"ONE OF THESE 3 DIES AFTER WE GET CLAIMS"

BUT YOU'RE A FUCKING IMPATIENT CHILD WHO DOESN'T LISTEN TO ANYONE AND THINKS THEIR FUCKING BRILLIANT Or sOMe SHIT