DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Cheetory6]

Mastin please flip scum.
Please.
Please do it.

[mastina]

Untrod Tripod
hiplop
Cheetory6
Vaxkiller
GreyICE

SpyreX
Nahdia

Lady Lambdadelta
MagnaofIllusion
Cephrir

Basically this. All three scumreads won't be right. My reads are for finding Russians, so there's the probability of the serial killer in the top. (Read: hiplop.)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mastin please flip scum.
Please.
Please do it.

I wish. I'd feel so fucking vindicated.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Those are your final reads, Mastin?

Mind eating a bullet then?

[hiplop]

nuke vaxkiller

ya

[Cheetory6]

Can you use your submarine to shoot someone else too?

[Nahdia]

Shoot your nuke too, hiplop.

[Nahdia]

Your sub* nuke.

[hiplop]

errorist: {hiplop}

im conf town

[hiplop]

Shoot your nuke too, hiplop.

wat

[Andrius]

[Day 3, DEFCON 1 - Game Event]

...

[NORAD SYSTEM] ALERT. ALERT. NUCLEAR LAUNCH DETECTED.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Attempting to locate launch site...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile tracked to facility XR-843, currently commanded by

hiplop

.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Analyzing flight trajectory…
[NORAD SYSTEM] Missile is currently targeting coordinates registered to

Vaxkiller

.
[NORAD SYSTEM] Estimating time until impact...
[NORAD SYSTEM] Warhead will detonate in (expired on 2016-12-10 01:27:42)

[Cheetory6]

hip use ur ship

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Can you use your submarine to shoot someone else too?

Save your nuke.

Just save it for after the nukes.

And if the sub comes at you, obviously etc, but you are our clean up today.

[Nahdia]

@mod If someone is targeted with the aircraft carrier, do their nukes visibly fail directly at launch or at the end of the countdown?

[hiplop]

hip use ur ship

what

[mastina]

Basically, the only way you can justify the doctor is "Reck blocked an unconfirmed!" (a moronic action, and I repeat, RECK IS NOT A MORON),
Or, "The doctor decided to try and outguess the kill and hope that both the SK and scum would assume he'd be on GiF!" (a decision which is policy-lynch worthy).

NO SHIT.
"ONE OF THESE 3 DIES AFTER WE GET CLAIMS"
BUT YOU'RE A FUCKING IMPATIENT CHILD WHO DOESN'T LISTEN TO ANYONE AND THINKS THEIR FUCKING BRILLIANT Or sOMe SHIT

The thing is.

You say one should die.
I say two should die regardless.

I don't think GreyICE has the doctor. I have him pegged as being one of the other two.
I also don't think MagnaofIllusion, Mr. "has been killed N1", takes doctor LEAST of all as scum.
Ergo.
I nuked who I thought would be the doctor.

But it doesn't matter if I'm right or wrong.
I want Cephrir dead regardless of his role.
I want Magna dead regardless of his role.
Unless both Cephrir and MagnaofIllusion both claim/flip not being the doctor, I'm not so much as ever going to consider GreyICE for death.

Sure, 48 hours later might get those claims out.
But it wouldn't change anything.
I'd still want Cephrir dead.
I'd still want MagnaofIllusion dead.

If GreyICE was proven to be the doctor, maybe.

Maybe

. I would want him dead.
But it wouldn't change that I'd STILL want Cephrir dead. And STILL want Magna dead.

What's so hard to understand, here?
What about wanting Cephrir and MoI dead regardless of their claims is so unfathomable to you? Because if GreyICE has a scum role (doctor), then that doesn't make me want to call Cephrir and MoI town. All it does is make me want to lynch GreyICE more. It doesn't change that I still. fucking. want. Cephrir/MoI. dead.

[Cheetory6]

You removed all of your agency by using your nuke.

[Andrius]

@mod If someone is targeted with the aircraft carrier, do their nukes visibly fail directly at launch or at the end of the countdown?

Yes, a player shooting a nuke while being targeted by the Aircraft Carrier would have their nuke immediately shot down. This is the only time a nuke is immediately failed.

[Untrod Tripod]

BUT YOU'RE A FUCKING IMPATIENT CHILD WHO DOESN'T LISTEN TO ANYONE AND THINKS THEIR FUCKING BRILLIANT Or sOMe SHIT

see this is why I didn't really feel like waiting was worth it

mastina can't be alive when it actually matters imo

[Cheetory6]

Man Reck.
I really wish you'd blocked hip :/

[Nahdia]

Wondering if it would have been a better idea to discuss his target.

[mastina]

By the way:
If Cephrir is scum doc.
And MoI is town-deadhand.
LLD is a fucking scumbag who killed GreyICE N2 but was either roleblocked or failed because she targeted the airbase which is immune to the kill.

If Cephrir is scum doc and MoI is scum-deadhand. Well LLD's town by necessity butstill.
My point here is: if either Cephrir or MoI are the scum doc, then there's a significant chance (we're talking at least 50%) that LLD tried to kill GreyICE N2.

Because GreyICE would scumread his wife--maybe regardless of her alignment, maybe only if she were scum, but she's smart enough to know he'd scumread her. In fact he might have already been, would need to check his iso for when he picked up the attacks against her.

Basically, at this stage: we know that between Doctor/Airbase, the scum hold one.
Meaning, the 33% chance we had before?

Is now a 50% chance. Scum, holding the doctor/airbase, couldn't have caused the kill to fail because of said doc/airbase. So, that means the cause of the failed kill was either the other (whichever would be in town's hands)...
...Or Reck blocked the scum kill. Which would mean LLD'd be scum.

[Cheetory6]

Zzzzz.
mastin's probably not flipping scum.

[Nahdia]

If scum have doc, I don't see any reason why GiF wouldn't have been the target N2 meaning the only way that kill could have failed is if RECK blocked the person executing the kill. That's where my head is at.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

V/LA until Mastin's a fucking glowing crater