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Post Post #4850 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:40 pm

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In post 4848, Nahdia wrote:If scum have doc, I don't see any reason why GiF wouldn't have been the target N2 meaning the only way that kill could have failed is if RECK blocked the person executing the kill. That's where my head is at.
Except he blocked me, and I'm town.

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Post Post #4851 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:42 pm

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In post 4848, Nahdia wrote:If scum have doc, I don't see any reason why GiF wouldn't have been the target N2 meaning the only way that kill could have failed is if RECK blocked the person executing the kill. That's where my head is at.
Except he blocked me, and I'm town.

So.
Yeah.

On the other hand I'm pretty much in the opposite headspace as mastin and have actually been townreading LLD today so far. But fuck it, maybe I'm wrong.

If there's a scum doc flip, LLD needs to be lynched. That's all there is to it.
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Post Post #4852 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:42 pm

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Post Post #4853 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:43 pm

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In post 4851, Nahdia wrote:
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4848, Nahdia wrote:If scum have doc, I don't see any reason why GiF wouldn't have been the target N2 meaning the only way that kill could have failed is if RECK blocked the person executing the kill. That's where my head is at.
Except he blocked me, and I'm town.

So.
Yeah.

On the other hand I'm pretty much in the opposite headspace as mastin and have actually been townreading LLD today so far. But fuck it, maybe I'm wrong.

If there's a scum doc flip, LLD needs to be lynched. That's all there is to it.
Or MoI is town Air Base and was shot.
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Post Post #4854 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:44 pm

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I just.

Why would Russia shoot MoI over a claimed cop. Especially right after MoI pushed through a lynch on a townie.
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Post Post #4855 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:44 pm

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I don't deny the possibility but it doesn't make sense to me.
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Post Post #4856 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:44 pm

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In post 4848, Nahdia wrote:If scum have doc, I don't see any reason why GiF wouldn't have been the target N2 meaning the only way that kill could have failed is if RECK blocked the person executing the kill. That's where my head is at.
Actually, there's two possibilities. One is what you mention.
The other is that they didn't want to be caught by the fighter/radar, both of which could catch them NOT protecting the cop and fuck them over when massclaim came along. (Because, well...they knew from me all roles were in play, and because everyone with nukes used them D3 with most of the power roles claimed by D2, they...were very, very limited in their options.)

Thanks to both the radar and fighter being nuked D3, there was no such concern for tonight, potentially explaining them openly going for the kill.
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Post Post #4857 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:46 pm

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...True enough.
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Post Post #4858 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:46 pm

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*Correction: fucking them over BEFORE the massclaim in the case of the fighter, during massclaim in the case of the radar.
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Post Post #4859 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:47 pm

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Also, a scum doc would explain why Nukebringer went after Ircher: they knew that nuking GiF would fail because they KNEW that GiF was protected by the battleship (which would shoot down the nuke).
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Post Post #4860 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:51 pm

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In post 4859, mastina wrote:Also, a scum doc would explain why Nukebringer went after Ircher: they knew that nuking GiF would fail because they KNEW that GiF was protected by the battleship (which would shoot down the nuke).
... what

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Post Post #4861 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:52 pm

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Naw. mastina is saying scum battleship parked on GiF in case they were being tracked, so they could look good if there was a mass claim.
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Post Post #4862 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:54 pm

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In post 4860, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4859, mastina wrote:Also, a scum doc would explain why Nukebringer went after Ircher: they knew that nuking GiF would fail because they KNEW that GiF was protected by the battleship (which would shoot down the nuke).
... what
This is backwards.
If the scum doc, FEARING BEING CAUGHT, forced themselves to protect GiF until they knew the threatening roles were out of the game (radar/fighter), that means that the scum doc would protect GiF in order to protect themselves from being found out until said threatening roles were out of the game.

Ergo, scum doc protected GiF, preventing the scum from nuking him because the doc would've stopped the nuke.
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Post Post #4863 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:55 pm

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Hey mastin?

Fuck you.

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Post Post #4864 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:56 pm

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In post 4862, mastina wrote:
In post 4860, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 4859, mastina wrote:Also, a scum doc would explain why Nukebringer went after Ircher: they knew that nuking GiF would fail because they KNEW that GiF was protected by the battleship (which would shoot down the nuke).
... what
This is backwards.
If the scum doc, FEARING BEING CAUGHT, forced themselves to protect GiF until they knew the threatening roles were out of the game (radar/fighter), that means that the scum doc would protect GiF in order to protect themselves from being found out until said threatening roles were out of the game.

Ergo, scum doc protected GiF, preventing the scum from nuking him because the doc would've stopped the nuke.
What are the odds that they're being tracked vs. protecting someone they think might get Terrorist killed that night?

I don't get this logic, this is assbackwards
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Post Post #4865 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:56 pm

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In post 4863, Cephrir wrote:Hey mastin?

Fuck you.

And the trend of obscene arrogance you represent.
Claim.
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Post Post #4866 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:56 pm

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I note a lack of roleclaim from you, Ceph.
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Post Post #4867 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:58 pm

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Also a lack of reads for that matter.
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Post Post #4868 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:59 pm

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I took doc. It's one of my favorite roles.

I'm usually pretty good at guessing scum kills. Surprised the scum tried to waste their kill. Go ahead and flame me if you want, but I can't undo it.

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Post Post #4869 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:00 pm

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Yeah. Ceph being doc was pretty obvious.

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Post Post #4870 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:01 pm

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Cephrir, please request an avoidance of nuclear death if you are town.
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Post Post #4871 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:02 pm

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Post Post #4872 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:02 pm

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In post 4868, Cephrir wrote:I took doc. It's one of my favorite roles. I'm usually pretty good at guessing scum kills. Surprised the scum tried to waste their kill. Go ahead and flame me if you want, but I can't undo it.
And my nuke is justified. Who did you protect N1? N2? N3?
None of that in here.
And this justification for not protecting GiF sucks ass too. If it's not scum.
It should be.
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Post Post #4873 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:03 pm

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In post 4870, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Cephrir, please request an avoidance of nuclear death if you are town.
What would that help? I'd rather have more time to post anything I think might be useful.
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Post Post #4874 (ISO) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:03 pm

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In post 4872, mastina wrote:
In post 4868, Cephrir wrote:I took doc. It's one of my favorite roles. I'm usually pretty good at guessing scum kills. Surprised the scum tried to waste their kill. Go ahead and flame me if you want, but I can't undo it.
And my nuke is justified. Who did you protect N1? N2? N3?
None of that in here.
And this justification for not protecting GiF sucks ass too. If it's not scum.
It should be.
Who fucking cares? Cheet, GIF, Cheet. Yeah, I'm sure I didn't say that in your mind because it was just too darn hard to make up.
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