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Post Post #4950 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:24 am

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@UT – Do not under any circumstances recall that Nuke
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Game is at a tipping point. Clearing players as either Mafia or Terrorist is paramount for endgame purposes. And mastin needs to die anyway for the copious WIFOM he’s drowned the thread in about how he’d play as alignment blah blah blah.

Right now we know the following –

LLD is not the Terrorist (Blocked by Reck on a Night the Terrorist Nightkill went through).

Hiplop is not Mafia (Both GiF’s investigation which has little chance of being Tailored and nuking Nukebringer)

That’s all the concrete evidence we have. UT is very likely not Mafia being a significant counter-wagon to SS (which Vax also was so I’m not hella thrilled with the Nuke on Vax but he could be the Terrorist I guess). But that isn’t concrete. So confirming whether Spyrex chose to pre-empt and of the Nukes WITHOUT him claiming it in thread is good for both sorting the targets and Spyrex’s possible motivations.

I’m not claiming before the Terrorist gets his Sub shot on. Neither should Grey. The reasons are pretty obvious to anyone now that Cephir claimed Doc. Personally the fact that GiF only dies to Commie strike after the Radar player is Nuked has me leaning wanting Cephir dead. And his play after mastin launched the nuke doesn’t help.

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In post 4807, mastina wrote:In short, I've been right on every player being town. (Well, except Ircher. That one caught me off-guard.) It's the scumflips I've been wrong about.
And when you think about it, this is a natural consequence of my playstyle, which focuses on an "innocent until proven guilty" approach. It's easier to townhunt and name town than it is to scumhunt and name scum.
Literally this is the exact profile of Mafia scum who are allergic to bussing. Which is why Mastin needs to be a glowing crater in the next 36 hours so mastin isn't anywhere near endgame. Of course Cephir flipping Commie means he isn't but it appears that isn't happening until after the recall period.

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In post 4874, Cephrir wrote:Who fucking cares? Cheet, GIF, Cheet. Yeah, I'm sure I didn't say that in your mind because it was just too darn hard to make up.
So you didn’t protect the claimed Cop N1? I mean you were clearly in the group that new mastin’s theory on GiF being a scum counter-claimer to SS was moronic so you had to feel GiF was Town. Yet you took a chance the Terrorist would hit there even if it was fucking minimal?
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Post Post #4951 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:28 am

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I'm fine waiting for a Terrorist nuke for you and Grey to claim your roles. Your claims do not affect the Cephrir/Mastin scenario.
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Post Post #4952 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:23 am

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Lld whar do people.mean by use my boats
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Post Post #4953 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:25 am

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Post Post #4954 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:33 am

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In post 4952, hiplop wrote:Lld whar do people.mean by use my boats
LLD and others are waiting for you to fire your Sub Nuke since they think you are the Terrorist.

And to pre-empt your response you are not confirmed Non-Terrorist. I was wrong that Radar cleared you of being a filthy bombing meanie.
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Post Post #4955 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:41 am

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hiplop your nuke on me is friggin awful. Reasons?

Cephir really looks town to me.

Can you guys really now see through LLD's play? She wants to slaughter everyone... to prove who is and who isn't town. Shes doing the math and trying to end this game tonight. She has the scummiest claim and her play has been to tunnel mastina the entire time! Look through her voting history. Its almost all mastina. She voted myself and SAD for a short time as well.

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Post Post #4956 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:44 am

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In post 4955, Vaxkiller wrote:She wants to slaughter everyone... to prove who is and who isn't town. Shes doing the math and trying to end this game tonight
So what is her alignment?
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Post Post #4957 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:45 am

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I'd say the SK, which makes hiplop town. Which is though because I really don't like his play either.
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Post Post #4958 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:46 am

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I mean she BEGGED to be investigated, then patted herself on the back and said "would scum beg to be investigated?"
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Post Post #4959 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:48 am

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EBWOP post 4957 should say "tough" instead of "though"
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Post Post #4960 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:48 am

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In post 4957, Vaxkiller wrote:I'd say the SK, which makes hiplop town. Which is though because I really don't like his play either.
Are you reading the thread? With Reck's Town confirmation flip there is no way she can be the Serial Killer ...
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Post Post #4961 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:49 am

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In post 4950, MagnaofIllusion wrote:LLD is not the Terrorist (Blocked by Reck on a Night the Terrorist Nightkill went through).

Well shes not the SK I guess
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Post Post #4962 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:51 am

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So ... have any Eavesdrops to share Vax?
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Post Post #4963 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:51 am

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Do you really think her play is town? Tunneling mastina the entire game, begging to be investigated by everyone, then claiming it was a town action to do so. Picking a scummy deployment. Looking to kill people to prove others are town?
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Post Post #4964 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:52 am

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In post 4962, MagnaofIllusion wrote:So ... have any Eavesdrops to share Vax?
Guess that all im good for.

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Post Post #4965 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:52 am

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Lady Lambdadelta [1] - Vaxkiller
MagnaofIllusion [1] - mastina

Not Voting [9] - Everyone else

Nahdia is V/LA until 12/12.

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
It is now Day Four, which will end at 21:00 PST on 12/21/2016.


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Vaxkiller (expired on 2016-12-10 01:27:42)
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Post Post #4966 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:56 am

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In post 4963, Vaxkiller wrote:Do you really think her play is town? Tunneling mastina the entire game, begging to be investigated by everyone, then claiming it was a town action to do so. Picking a scummy deployment. Looking to kill people to prove others are town?
I didn't say that. But we know she isn't the Serial Killer and can only be Commie scum.

What about her deployment is inherently scummy? And what do you think of Spyrex's choice?
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Post Post #4967 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:01 am

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In post 4966, MagnaofIllusion wrote:What about her deployment is inherently scummy? And what do you think of Spyrex's choice?
Could go either way really. As town we put ourselves out there to be judged, and LLD's choice shows a fear of that.

You COULD argue that she has an abrasive personality and she chose that as a buffer for it, but I don't buy it.
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Post Post #4968 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:10 am

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What makes Ceph seem town to you. Or rather. How are you looking at actions from last night and not at least raising an eyebrow at him. q.q
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Post Post #4969 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:17 am

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In post 4966, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 4963, Vaxkiller wrote:Do you really think her play is town? Tunneling mastina the entire game, begging to be investigated by everyone, then claiming it was a town action to do so. Picking a scummy deployment. Looking to kill people to prove others are town?
I didn't say that. But we know she isn't the Serial Killer and can only be Commie scum.

What about her deployment is inherently scummy? And what do you think of Spyrex's choice?
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Post Post #4970 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:23 am

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In post 4969, SpyreX wrote:My choice? I haven't said mine today yet
Your hippie dippie choice to be a tree-hugging Anti-Nuke element of course SpySpy :P

I mean, since I was asking why LLD's deploy choice was scummy and then followed up with asking him about you ...
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Post Post #4971 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:53 am

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In post 4868, Cephrir wrote:I took doc. It's one of my favorite roles.

I'm usually pretty good at guessing scum kills. Surprised the scum tried to waste their kill. Go ahead and flame me if you want, but I can't undo it.

Pedit: The fuck you was more important.
Of course it raises eyebrows. But this seems believable to me, and he has been actively scum hunting all game.

Edit: well... here is something I found that MAY contradict my above beliefs.

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Post Post #4972 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:58 am

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What other ability could go there? Its possible tehy are asking soemthign else, but I'm trying to make sense of this.
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Post Post #4973 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:59 am

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sam could be the ascetic role?
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Post Post #4974 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:08 am

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Which troop is that?

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