DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mod, if a lynch is averted by Battleship, does it end the day?

No.

OH HEY GEE SWELL.

ANYONE WANNA TEST A CLAIM WITH ME?

[Andrius]

Votecount

Lady Lambdadelta [1] - Vaxkiller
SpyreX [1] - mastina
Cheetory6 [1] - Lady Lambdadelta

Not Voting [8] - Everyone else

Nahdia is V/LA until 12/12.

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.
It is now Day Four, which will end at 21:00 PST on 12/21/2016.


Projected Impact Times:
mastina (expired on 2016-12-10 01:01:07)
Vaxkiller (expired on 2016-12-10 01:27:42)
hiplop (expired on 2016-12-11 00:00:35)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mod, if a lynch is averted by Battleship, does it end the day?

No is my gut reaction.
I'll double-check notes though.

HE CHANGED IT.

YOU MONSTER

[Nahdia]

Hmm. Anyone care to test-lynch Cheetory to see if Cephrir is just making an excuse?

p-edit: dammit i saw that.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You probably shouldn't need to try all that hard.
My towngame is really easy to read.

I have so many things that I could say to this post that would be hurtful.

But my rage has kind of faded and I really don't feel like it's productive.

[Vaxkiller]

If hiplop doesn't stop his nuke, hes likely the SK. Other than that I still want LLD dead, with cephir being my second choice.

I still want to think more about the admiring comments from the scum.

I am just quoting this and not commenting because I'm already being somewhat toxic and there's no reason to compound it

rofl! I was like, why the fuck would I write that, that makes no sense. Took my a few min to figure it out. I am drunk tho....

[Cheetory6]

I have so many things that I could say to this post that would be hurtful.

I was queued up in the SE thread for some hurtful statements.
By all means.

[Cephrir]

Didn't lld say greyice was assuming the scum Nightkill was factional and that was weird? I see him assuming the opposite then realizing he was wrong and I'm pretty sure one person carrying it out IS normal.

[Untrod Tripod]

Mod, if a lynch is averted by Battleship, does it end the day?

No.

OH HEY GEE SWELL.

ANYONE WANNA TEST A CLAIM WITH ME?

you wanna maybe wait for the nukes to fall?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I have so many things that I could say to this post that would be hurtful.

I was queued up in the SE thread for some hurtful statements.
By all means.

BUT I'M SUpPOsed TO BUILD YOU UP AFTER



Also, doing that would totally be talking outside of game, because you brought your depression into the game.

Maybe I should report any post of yours that talks about depression for OoG communication~

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mod, if a lynch is averted by Battleship, does it end the day?

No.

OH HEY GEE SWELL.

ANYONE WANNA TEST A CLAIM WITH ME?

you wanna maybe wait for the nukes to fall?

RAGE GOGGLES ON

[Cephrir]

Cheet don't

Shh

Don't be sad please

[Cheetory6]

I would love to be banned.
I wouldn't be playing mafia anymore.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Didn't lld say greyice was assuming the scum Nightkill was factional and that was weird? I see him assuming the opposite then realizing he was wrong and I'm pretty sure one person carrying it out IS normal.

No, Nahdia said that.

[Nahdia]

mastina can you lay out why Untrod is definitely not Russian? I had the same thoughts on him for awhile but honestly I'm starting to re-examine and wonder if I'm wrong there in particular. I remember him being a counterwagon to S_S, was there other stuff?

Mod, if a lynch is averted by Battleship, does it end the day?

No.

OH HEY GEE SWELL.

ANYONE WANNA TEST A CLAIM WITH ME?

you wanna maybe wait for the nukes to fall?

Uh I was talking about this and you have me confused now.

[Nahdia]

whoops meant to quote Ceph there.

[Nahdia]

oh im high. that was totally Untrod.

[Untrod Tripod]

Uh I was talking about this and you have me confused now.

huh?

I tend to read stuff in order and comment as I go

[mastina]

hiplop is the terrorist, but not a Russian--this read needs no explanation.

Cephrir isn't scum. The chance of him being scum was there before, but it's gone now. Aside from the fact that SOMETHING needed to have stopped the scum kill N2, there's also the fact that his attitude is beyond what he's capable of pushing as scum. His refusal to bite the bullet didn't seem like it was survivalistic. It seemed motivated by pure, simple spite, combined with frustration and rage. He was angry in a way I've never seen him angry. And if he's scum, I can't see him being angry. Angry at me nuking scum? Why would he be? He knows me, he knows I get paranoid of him, so he'd know it was inevitable with me living long enough, I'd turn my back on him and call him scum. He had no reason to be so much in a rage as scum. But as town, it makes perfect sense.

Vaxkiller's flipping town as well. There's a nuke headed his way, so I really shouldn't need to explain this, but if SpyreX did sabotage hiplop, he'll live and he shouldn't be lynched afterwards. He took a role and has been using it in a town way. He's been trying to decode the messages, trying to interpret them, in a really organic way which does not feel faked. His cases when they exist may not be the most valid things in existence, but are indicative of actual, real effort on the part of a newbie that I think makes him likely town. So, don't lynch him.

Untrod Tripod is, admittedly, not someone I'm reading off of his game content. The scum PT literally has HIS tone to it. His contributions to this game involve nuking Reck (town), nuking me (town), and maybe some random votes here and there. One was on scum, but it was inconsistent. HOWEVER, in spite of that: he was an early pusher of Something_smart as scum. And he was Something_smart's counterwagon. Overall, it really looks like scum wanted him dead, which means he's almost assuredly not scum.

Cheetory I just explained. People do not melt down like this as scum. They just don't. And no. That's not fake. I can tell when someone is faking a meltdown. (Rare as that may be.) This aint it. This is pure, unadulterated, hatred and loathing. It's tangible. It is also very, VERY much town. That level of spite, that level of anger, cannot be mustered by scum, and even if it could be, they wouldn't because it's borderline suicidal of them to do so. It weakens their position in the game, something scum want to avoid. As a result, he is town.

LLD has progressed back into town, in part thanks to some convincing posts of hers, in part thanks to her content, her contribution, and in part thanks to the way she is engaging Cheetory. For instance, if LLD were scum, 5201 would be crossing the line. As town, I can understand why she would post something like that in the heat of the moment. She is upset, she is frustrated, she is experiencing strong emotions. But as scum, she might have some of those things, but nowhere near as intense, and deliberately posting something that would alienate Cheetory is something I don't want to think she would sink to doing as scum.

Leaving:
Nahdia, MagnaofIllusion, GreyICE, and SpyreX.

[Untrod Tripod]

One was on scum, but it was inconsistent.

you mean nuke, the person who I was connecting as a SS buddy before SS had even fallen?

[Nahdia]

Uh I was talking about this and you have me confused now.

huh?

I tend to read stuff in order and comment as I go

Sorry, I totally mucked this up. Lemme explain what happened.

"Factional ability" meaning no one submits it is a weird concept to me, one I've never seen before. So someone already knowing that's what it meant had me wondering if that person knew it because they're Russian. So I asked people if that definition of "factional" used to be common before my time or something.

I just, got it reversed in my mind who said what. You were the one who knew what it actually meant before Andrius confirmed it.

[Untrod Tripod]

I've used it in games I've modded before

it's not super common, but it's not like it's unique to this game

[Nahdia]

Got it. Pretty sure it means nothing then. Sorry about the confusion.

[mastina]

One was on scum, but it was inconsistent.

you mean nuke, the person who I was connecting as a SS buddy before SS had even fallen?

Okay I forgot you voted Nukebringer. There's that, I suppose, also in your credit, though I honestly don't think it means much on D2. You didn't vote Nukebringer D1. Your vote didn't stay on Something_smart, either. But it WAS one of the first, on at least one occasion if not two, and that I think looks good for you.

Plus the whole, "scum wanted you dead", thing. (All three flipped scum at some point.)

[mastina]

Also, my family's about to watch Chuck.
I can't stall them off for long enough to be here, online, after the point of no return. So I won't be around immediately after the point of no return to say, I'm town.

I am town though. And I'll be back later tonight, WELL past the point of no return, to say as much.
Just, can't be there at the very minute it happens.

I also should probably elaborate on my Nahdia read in particular since I don't want them lynched and think we should be focusing the lynch efforts within MagnaofIllusion/GreyICE/SpyreX. I really think at this stage that two of those three are our Russians.