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Creature · Post Post #3600 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:19 pm

I requested, but I think Jaack didn't.

Creature · Post Post #3601 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:19 pm

But he was obvtown anyway.

Creature · Post Post #3602 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:21 pm

Rask is also obvtown, guess who's left.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3603 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:21 pm

Cloudkicker?

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3604 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:23 pm

Creature?

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3605 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:26 pm

Do you usually request that?

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3606 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:28 pm

Actually I just remembered. C-14.

havingfitz · Post Post #3607 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:10 pm

In post 3598, Raskolnikov wrote:
In post 3589, havingfitz wrote:I said nothing to the mod. I could have used the time.
Actually this is pretty much a claim.

Yes...a town claim.

Creature · Post Post #3608 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:14 pm

I requested nightskip.

havingfitz · Post Post #3609 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:34 pm

Rask and Creature...whichever of you IS town I suggest you unvote me.

Speaking to whichever of you is town...the day has just begun. There's no rush to get a mislynch and avoid accumulating addition information.

I'll take a closer look to see which of you is scum tomorrow. In the meantime we should allow Cloud and Jack to give their thoughts.

I'll also explain with a high degree of certainty tomorrow why I am town and at least one of you is sadly misguided.

Also....and btw....Cloud and Jaack....

I'm at L-1!

.

Please be careful.

Jaack · Post Post #3610 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:53 pm

In post 3600, Creature wrote:I requested, but I think Jaack didn't.

I totes requested it.

That being said, I'm not normally one to make judgments based on stuff like this, so I'm not going to pay attention to it all that much.

An exceedingly quick look over Maria's iso makes me lean creature as the last scum tbh. For most of the game she was 'scumreading' BV, Creature, and myself, but it only really felt like she really wanted the creautre lynch until BV and I were off the table.

I'm still feeling comfortable townreading rask. I don't really buy that Maria would hard townread her two buddies to hell and back. If rask were her scumbuddy and ended up getting lynched before her, it would, well, not look good.

I'm back in no mans land with fitz.

CloudKicker · Post Post #3611 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:28 pm

hey guys, i requested it too. yday i went back from work and i saw that mariar got lynched which is great, i still find it wierd that rask didnt let her out a last list of reads because he mightve used it, considering she mightve thought she could escape that lynch

CloudKicker · Post Post #3612 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:29 pm

that means if gm slot is scum he told the nightkill w/o saying that he wanted a speed line btw

CloudKicker · Post Post #3613 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:31 pm

Considering hes the only one who said he didnt resquest it, the mod saying ''one or more player'' looks like it tried to cover his mitstake, but would mod forgot about last mafia asking for speed deadline ? im not sure. Im still 100% inclined to get rask atm @jack

CloudKicker · Post Post #3614 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:32 pm

In post 3610, Jaack wrote:
In post 3600, Creature wrote:I requested, but I think Jaack didn't.
I totes requested it.

That being said, I'm not normally one to make judgments based on stuff like this, so I'm not going to pay attention to it all that much.

An exceedingly quick look over Maria's iso makes me lean creature as the last scum tbh. For most of the game she was 'scumreading' BV, Creature, and myself, but it only really felt like she really wanted the creautre lynch until BV and I were off the table.

I'm still feeling comfortable townreading rask. I don't really buy that Maria would hard townread her two buddies to hell and back. If rask were her scumbuddy and ended up getting lynched before her, it would, well, not look good.

I'm back in no mans land with fitz.

does no mans land means a null or scumread ?

Creature · Post Post #3615 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:10 am

UNVOTE:

Okay, apparently only havingfitz didn't request nightskip.

Creature · Post Post #3616 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 12:11 am

If it isn't havingfitz, I don't know who it is though.

Jaack · Post Post #3617 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:16 am

In post 3614, CloudKicker wrote: does no mans land means a null or scumread ?

It's an 'I'm utterely confused at to what's going on with this slot because sometimes I think its obvscum but sometimes I see posts that just don't make sense from scum so I'm going to vaguely call it null' read.

As for rask I've considered and reconsidered there, but there's just some things that don't add up. For example, why would both scum try to lynch gm yesterday without anyone else voting there first? You just don't normally see that kind of coordination. And then why would Maria maintain such a hard townread on rask while rask is literally saying 'y'all should lynch me!' Especially when Maria had been given a hard time over her hard townread on sotty. It just seems like a losing proposition.

Creature · Post Post #3618 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:20 am

havingfitz being scum would mean he submitted his kill and the mod interpreted he wanted to nightskip too, but then why would he say about him not requesting a nightskip?

havingfitz · Post Post #3619 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:33 am

I'm not town because I didn't request a nightslip. In the mod's defense, scum could have submitted the nightkill and forgot to request a nightslip. TBH I didn't even notice it was an option.

I'm town because there is no way in he// that I would have bussed my last remaining scum partner so close to LYLO when it wasn't necessary. If I'm scum with Maria...Creature and Rask were getting plenty of enough attention when I replaced in to work a reasonable mislynch.

Also...for those of you that put weight in meta, chew on this:

Spoiler: I ~don't lynch scum buddies

I'm still leaning towards Creature due to all the time Maria has spent on his wagon this game without ever really putting him in jeopardy. I'll wait to hear what Jaack and Cloud have to say first but I think Creature is where my vote will land. Though I will do due diligence with some more ISOing first.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3620 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:38 am

I think what happened is most of us submitted nightskip so mhsmith got ready to do it, and then havingfitz submitted the kill and mhsmith thought, okay everything's in order then. If he thought about it too much this wouldn't have happened in the first place, and that order of events I could see happening. Not to mention havingfitz appearing right at that time too adds up with him just having submitted the action.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3621 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:40 am

In post 3589, havingfitz wrote:I could have used the time.

If you're town why would you say this?

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3622 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:55 am

Technically it does seem more sensible mod would overlook a vt not requesting nightskip than the scum, but the level of effort from creature is a lot more than his other scumgames. He usually loses motivation in situations like this.

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3623 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:57 am

Cloud what do your associations say?

Raskolnikov · Post Post #3624 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:02 am

Havingfitz scum wins if he lynches creature and he kills jaack instead of cloudkicker.