DEFCON Mafia 4.0 - СЛАВА РОССИИ МАТЕРИ

[Andrius]

Votecount

SpyreX [2] - Nahdia, Cephrir
Lady Lambdadelta [1] - GreyICE


Not Voting [6] - Vi, SpyreX, hiplop, Untrod Tripod, MagnaofIllusion, Lady Lambdadelta

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
It is now Day Four, which will end at 21:00 PST on 12/21/2016.


Nahdia is V/LA until 12/12.

Projected Impact Times:
hiplop: (expired on 2016-12-11 00:00:35)
Unknown: (expired on 2016-12-12 17:40:58)

[SpyreX]

I swear i went through this too

I didnt want someone ruining fun all willy nilly so i put it. I got it on the cheap though. Sub, esp, covert i believe

[SpyreX]

Ohh i lied

Sub counterint covert. I didnt bother esp not 1st

[Vi]

GreyICE, why is Nahdia Town?

[SpyreX]

Hey you dont get to make me question.my existance then.just float away validate.me

[Vi]

Hey you dont get to make me question.my existance then.just float away validate.me

You're a good person who is also potentially tipsy.

As far as using the ability goes, I acknowledge that the way you used it is not inconsistent with a Town mindset. I also acknowledge that I have no idea how you (or I or anyone else) would use it differently as scum.

[SpyreX]

As scum id have not announced it for sure tried to hide more in the weeds waay longer.

And no way would i have sabotaged crazyface cause you know hes on for only good scum things

[SpyreX]

We just need a hiplop terror flip and i think we're ok

[Cephrir]

I felt and still feel Cephrir MUST DIE for his actions is letting GIF die, and wanted to force a situation where if town Cephrir truly felt conviction in his Mastin stance, he'd swallow the pill, confirm himself as town, and watch Mastin die in a nuclear glow.

Sorry, but when did I call mastin scum other than pregame?

[Cephrir]

1a) Is anyone actually questioning Nahdia-Town?
1b) Is anyone thinking of questioning Nahdia-Town in the future?
2) Why is UT not scum? Like seriously the Mastin nuke was super-opportunistic.
3) For SpyreX: Why, as Town, would you ever use your role? Even if it is on Mastin.
4) Does anyone other than GreyICE have a read to share on Moai?
5) What about Cephrir? Is it decided that he's Town after all...?
6) For LLD: Why haven't you been on about the scum codes?
7) Why did Fate die?

1a) No
1b) Maybe
2) For being the counterwagon to SS mostly
4) Townish but as the pool thins I get more worried
5) Obviously
7) I don't know

#helping

[Cephrir]

this is clearly talking about a role action

what action requires you to ask "is x possible?" nightkilling?

[Cephrir]

People who have medium-term memories: Was there anyone

other than Fate

who wanted Untrod Tripod dead on Day 1?

Vi, if you were to admire someone, from a scum perspective, what kind of action do you think they're taking?

Doc is the first action that comes to mind. Then again, how would you explain "mining"? Is there necessarily a correlation?

Probably all the people who voted for Untrod Tripod

[Cephrir]

oh joy, more VCA.

[Nahdia]

I realize no one is pressuring me rn (except MoI kinda) but just wanted to point out that unless I'm scum with Cephrir as my partner, taking that huge risk in shooting GiF is some serious meshugaas coming from me. With radar dead I could just let GiF get false checks.

[Cephrir]

SpyreX claiming to sabotage Mastin's silo (the obvious target) confirms Cephrir does not need to die and thus does not need to suicide.

I did think of this.

I feel like your stance on me is driven by mafia theory and not by trying to win the game as town, but I might be biased

[Nahdia]

@mod If someone with a sabotaged nuke headed towards them commits suicide, do they still die?

[Cephrir]

I swear i went through this too

I didnt want someone ruining fun all willy nilly so i put it. I got it on the cheap though. Sub, esp, covert i believe

i thought of you as someone who was pro-silly nuke fun.

[Cephrir]

@mod If someone with a sabotaged nuke headed towards them commits suicide, do they still die?

this was asked and the answer was yes

[Nahdia]

that's cray.

[GreyICE]

GreyICE, why is Nahdia Town?

Because I literally just played a PYP game and 2 different people bid 100 on the Ninja. One player bid 100 on the Strongman. All three were town. I was scum with LLD, we didn't even consider bidding on the "scum" PRs.

Town -> "I'm not getting a town PR, I will deny the town these scum PRs!"
Scum -> "I don't want to claim a scummy role, I want a town role to deny it to the town and so I don't have to claim something scumtastic."

This is the draft: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

Then she begged to be POE nuked yesterday. I admit she has a lot of motive to kill GIF, because that means she doesn't have to be POE nuked, but so does every friggin scum player in the game.

[Cephrir]

well, it makes sense if you think in terms of flavor.

[Nahdia]

Ceph i will give that just eating the pill here makes the most sense.

Unless you have a really compelling reason to just waste 48 hrs

so im probably like 5 steps behind everyone else just realizing this but since SpyreX sabbed mastin this post is kind of interesting.

[GreyICE]

As scum id have not announced it for sure tried to hide more in the weeds waay longer.

And no way would i have sabotaged crazyface cause you know hes on for only good scum things

She, and... this is actually kinda convincing. Unless you're playing DEEP cover operative. Or LLD is scum. Because you had no reason to doubt Mastina besides the usual (aka she's cray cray)

[GreyICE]

Ceph i will give that just eating the pill here makes the most sense.

Unless you have a really compelling reason to just waste 48 hrs

so im probably like 5 steps behind everyone else just realizing this but since SpyreX sabbed mastin this post is kind of interesting.

Uh...

This is another reason she's town Vi. Things like this.

[GreyICE]

Like Spy, you really wanted Cephrir dead that badly?